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[markatisu]

It's still a port of a 4 year old game, MH3 demo and the series growth will help some what, but I don't think it'll be that significant

Well it is having a bundle with the classic controller so that might help increase sales, I know its what sold me to get it and not just wait for MH3 itself.

 

[jeremy1456]

How? If bucket loads of people buy MHG for the demo, it shows MH3 will be huge, if they don't then everything's status quo.

You downplayed the package inferring that the sales will be bad because it's a 4 year old port, and then said that the sales of this game will be a good indication of how MH3 will sell.

I really didn't conceive my last comment in a snarky or offensive way. I just was a bit confused.

 

[Vdragoon]

Thats great for Fatal Frame IV, we knew it was going to be the best selling version so its nice to see that its almost at 80k

This is good news!

 

[donny2112]

Thanks, bttb!

Sales Tracker Comparison

               |  M-Create  |  Famitsu  |  Dengeki
2008 Hardware  |     260.6  |    250.5  |    266.5
2008 Software  |     325.2  |    332.1  |    377.5
2008 Total     |     585.8  |    582.6  |    644.0

- Figures in billions of yen.

MC and Famitsu are pretty close. Dengeki/ASCII is kind of out there, though. Based on the RE5 tracking, that looks to remain the case in 2009. :lol

This is good news!

Not good enough for NOA!

Seriously, if they fix the flashlight thing (my interest is ignited for Silent Hill in good part due to the flashlight thing), I'd buy it!

 

[donny2112]

Anyone want to take over the MC thread duties? I can provide this kind of format, after the fact, if necessary. However, it'd probably be better for someone to develop their own formatting methodology.

 

[Tenbatsu]

So let´s guess Monster Hunter G Wii first day sales!

180k.

+1 limited edition sales here.

 

[BishopLamont]

You downplayed the package inferring that the sales will be bad because it's a 4 year old port, and then said that the sales of this game will be a good indication of how MH3 will sell.

I really didn't conceive my last comment in a snarky or offensive way. I just was a bit confused.

Not saying it'll be bad, I just think it'll perform how a port will perform and that MH3 demo won't boost it to insane heights like 180k on first day. It'll be good indication of how well MH3 will sell, if alot of people do buy MHG for the demo. If they don't then we're in the dark til the game arrives. I'd love for MH3 to perform well, just as much as I want MadWorld and other high profile hardcore Wii games to sell well, but we don't always get what we want.

 

[jeremy1456]

Not saying it'll be bad, I just think it'll perform how a port will perform and that MH3 demo won't boost it to insane heights like 180k on first day. It'll be good indication of how well MH3 will sell, if alot of people do buy MHG for the demo. If they don't then we're in the dark til the game arrives.

I agree with you.

This month is total demo wars.

 

[markatisu]

Not saying it'll be bad, I just think it'll perform how a port will perform and that MH3 demo won't boost it to insane heights like 180k on first day. It'll be good indication of how well MH3 will sell, if alot of people do buy MHG for the demo. If they don't then we're in the dark til the game arrives. I'd love for MH3 to perform well, just as much as I want MadWorld and other high profile hardcore Wii games to sell well, but we don't always get what we want.

Given how insanely long the lines to play a demo of MH3 were last year it seems there is interest. With no firm date for MH3 it just might motivate people to buy the demo.

But you are correct, I think we will only be able to gauge things if MHG is high in sales.

Otherwise we could write it off as being a port and wont really know till MH3 comes out if it will be a sales hit.

However if it did near 180k for the week would still be pretty high for a 3rd party Wii game 1st week

 

[Linkup]

If I saw the MHG wii commercial I probably wouldn't bother.

50k first day
150k ltd
-20k because of the commercial

Remember I once predicted a 70k ltd for wii fit, take my prediction with a grain of salt.

 

[markatisu]

If I saw the MHG wii commercial I probably wouldn't bother.

50k first day
150k ltd
-20k because of the commercial

Remember I once predicted a 70k ltd for wii fit, take my prediction with a grain of salt.

Thats the one with the pig right?

 

[jeremy1456]

If I saw the MHG wii commercial I probably wouldn't bother.

50k first day
150k ltd
-20k because of the commercial

Remember I once predicted a 70k ltd for wii fit, take my prediction with a grain of salt.

That is like the best commercial ever though.

 

[Linkup]

Thats the one with the pig right?

Yup, I was kind of hoping the cat would just tear up the pig and toss it in a stew.

 

[jeremy1456]

Yup, I was kind of hoping the cat would just tear up the pig and toss it in a stew.

I'm pretty sure the pig could rip the cat in two.

 

[Regulus Tera]

If I saw the MHG wii commercial I probably wouldn't bother.

50k first day
150k ltd
-20k because of the commercial

Remember I once predicted a 70k ltd for wii fit, take my prediction with a grain of salt.

You're crazy, that commercial was amazing.

 

[Cheesemeister]

First of all, I'd like to pass this weekly thread posting to another willing and capable individual.

cvxfreak and Cheesemeister have done it before, as well, if either are available.

Sorry, my reason for stopping still stands: I'm in Japan and at work when the data goes live. The best I could do is totally automate it and let it be posted by the program, even if errors arise. Being hands-on allowed me to fix errors before posting.

 

[jesusraz]

Sorry, my reason for stopping still stands: I'm in Japan and at work when the data goes live. The best I could do is totally automate it and let it be posted by the program, even if errors arise. Being hands-on allowed me to fix errors before posting.

If the alternative is people having to wait longer, then I would think the majority would be more than happy with 'automated, but with the odd error from time-to-time'

 

[BishopLamont]

If I saw the MHG wii commercial I probably wouldn't bother.

50k first day
150k ltd
-20k because of the commercial

Remember I once predicted a 70k ltd for wii fit, take my prediction with a grain of salt.

Wow 70k LTD? :lol

I suggest you not predict sales anymore.

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

Sorry, my reason for stopping still stands: I'm in Japan and at work when the data goes live. The best I could do is totally automate it and let it be posted by the program, even if errors arise. Being hands-on allowed me to fix errors before posting.

If the alternative is people having to wait longer, then I would think the majority would be more than happy with 'automated, but with the odd error from time-to-time'

How about who ever the successor is has access to that automated program so that they can fix the minor errors before posting?

 

[AranhaHunter]

I'll give some predictions since people are doing it:

FFVII ACC - 1st Day 80k, 1st week 150k, 300KLTD, PS3 week - 40k
MHG - 1st Day 80k, 1st week 180k, 450K LTD, Wii week - 50k
Killzone 2 - 1st Day 20k, 1st week 35k, 55k LTD, PS3 week - 30k

Heh, I'm not good at predicting stuff, so everything is probably way off

 

[Cheesemeister]

How about who ever the successor is has access to that automated program so that they can fix the minor errors before posting?

Wouldn't an automated e-mail with the OP contents to a few responsible parties do the trick?

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

Wouldn't an automated e-mail with the OP contents to a few responsible parties do the trick?

That would work too. Just thought you would rather have as little involvement as possible due to being busy.

 

[Spiegel]

It's still a port of a 4 year old game, MH3 demo and the series growth will help some what, but I don't think it'll be that significant. Whatever happens, it'll be a good indication for the upcoming game.

On one hand the game is a port of a 4 year old game

On the other hand this is the first Monster Hunter on Wii, it costs 4000 yens and includes a demo of the next installment for a megahyped franchise on the level of Final Fantasy.

 

[cvxfreak]

Wouldn't an automated e-mail with the OP contents to a few responsible parties do the trick?

Actually this would be perfect.

I can do it, but it depends on the time of day the contents go up.

 

[BishopLamont]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=355837



More than you, apparently.

Oh how did I miss this post. If you didn't notice by now, Wii Fit/Play/Mario Kart Wii aren't the only games that sell in the US market for the Wii. Third parties seem to be thriving too.

 

[donny2112]

Wouldn't an automated e-mail with the OP contents to a few responsible parties do the trick?

That would work. One advantage of having it be posted by your account is that you could then go back and fix any errors yourself at your convenience. If someone else is the OP, they'd be able to apply your fixes only after they got an email. Of course, the likely scenario if there are any noticeable errors is that they would've been pointed out to the OP and fixed by the OP before you could even get to them. Actually, that sounds like an even better idea. For most weeks, it would save you needing to go back to fix anything after the Top 50 is posted unless the problem was in the parser itself.

 

[manueldelalas]

On one hand the game is a port of a 4 year old game

On the other hand this is the first Monster Hunter on Wii, it costs 4000 yens and includes a demo of the next installment for a megahyped franchise on the level of Final Fantasy.

Yes, but it is a portable megahyped franchise.

We will have to see if the console game sells like the PSP MH games or like the PS2 MH games.

The same is the case of many megahits on portable machines that don't sell as good on consoles (Pokemon, Mario, etc)

 

[Spiegel]

Yes, but it is a portable megahyped franchise.

We will have to see if the console game sells like the PSP MH games or like the PS2 MH games.

The same is the case of many megahits on portable machines that don't sell as good on consoles (Pokemon, Mario, etc)

The "game" is a paid demo of the next game on a franchise on the level of Final Fantasy. The most hardcore fans are going to buy the demo so we should expect roughly the same amount of people buying both demos (FFXIII and MH3).

 

[manueldelalas]

The "game" is a paid demo of the next game on a franchise on the level of Final Fantasy. The most hardcore fans are going to buy the demo so we should expect roughly the same amount of people buying both demos (FFXIII and MH3).

I don't think this is the case.

I'll take a wait and see approach. I think MH is a very successful franchise on a portable machine, but it has to prove that it can be as successful on a console.

I expect a lot more people buying the FFXIII demo than this, because in consoles, IMHO, FF is a much bigger franchise.

I hope I'm wrong though...

 

[schuelma]

The "game" is a paid demo of the next game on a franchise on the level of Final Fantasy. The most hardcore fans are going to buy the demo so we should expect roughly the same amount of people buying both demos (FFXIII and MH3).

I don't think its fair to say that, when we have no idea the appeal of the console version of Monster Hunter.

 

[Spiegel]

I don't think its fair to say that, when we have no idea the appeal of the console version of Monster Hunter.

The appeal should be the same.

Monster Hunter 3: Continuation of a highly successful franchise. Only playable on Wii buying a game for 4000 Y
Final Fantasy XIII: Continuation of a highly successful franchise. Only playable on PS3 buying a movie for 6000 Y

Hardcore people pays for demos, there shouldn't be much difference. And you saw the appeal of the console version of MH at TGS 08

 

[BlackNMild2k1]

Wouldn't an automated e-mail with the OP contents to a few responsible parties do the trick?

That would work. One advantage of having it be posted by your account is that you could then go back and fix any errors yourself at your convenience. If someone else is the OP, they'd be able to apply your fixes only after they got an email. Of course, the likely scenario if there are any noticeable errors is that they would've been pointed out to the OP and fixed by the OP before you could even get to them. Actually, that sounds like an even better idea. For most weeks, it would save you needing to go back to fix anything after the Top 50 is posted unless the problem was in the parser itself.

Or you could make a central account (Mod approved) that only these certain few responsible parties would have access to. That way those responsible parties could pass around the posting and updating responsibilities at their convenience?

 

[duckroll]

Or you could make a central account (Mod approved) that only these certain few responsible parties would have access to. That way those responsible parties could pass around the posting and updating responsibilities at their convenience?

No.

 

[cvxfreak]

Even Pokemon Stadium sold a million in Japan...

 

[botticus]

The appeal should be the same.

Monster Hunter 3: Continuation of a highly successful franchise. Only playable on Wii buying a game for 4000 Y
Final Fantasy XIII: Continuation of a highly successful franchise. Only playable on PS3 buying a movie for 6000 Y

Hardcore people pays for demos, there shouldn't be much difference. And you saw the appeal of the console version of MH at TGS 08

The part that's always given me pause is that MH3 is a continuation of a highly successful franchise on a new platform, with a high likelihood of later being ported to the same platform where it became a highly successful franchise.

I think the one thing we can all agree on is that there will be plenty of room to spin the sales of MHG/MH3 in either direction.

 

[BishopLamont]

The appeal should be the same.

Monster Hunter 3: Continuation of a highly successful franchise. Only playable on Wii/PSP buying a game for 4000 Y

Fixed.

 

[Spiegel]

The part that's always given me pause is that MH3 is a continuation of a highly successful franchise on a new platform, with a high likelihood of later being ported to the same platform where it became a highly successful franchise.

I think the one thing we can all agree on is that there will be plenty of room to spin the sales of MHG/MH3 in either direction.

Final Fantasy XIII isn't a continuation of a highly succesful franchise on a new platform? (An underperforming one - 3 millions - unlike Wii - 8 millions -)


We're discussing potential sales of the demos people, not the full game.

Buying Advent Children Complete for 6000Y is the only way you can play THE NEXT Final Fantasy now.
Buying Monster Hunter G for 4000Y is the only way you can play THE NEXT Monster Hunter now.

Fixed.

What? When was the demo of MH3 announced for PSP?

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

Pretty decent considering it sold, what, 15K first week?

Also, as paltry as Corruption's sales may seem, it's nearly equal with the first Prime (according to the chart it's about 8K less but you have to factor in a few months of MC for 2009) and smashing Echoes, so it's not all bad.

Yeah. According from this chart and judging from many games America isn't the only place where Wii game have legs. :lol I still remember the 15k opening the game had it's first week. Hopefully this encourage's Nintendo to make another handdrawn 2D game. Yoshi's Island 3?

 

[Dash Kappei]

LOL

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Vanillaware joins Tri-Crescendo, I'm actually sorry for this but oh well :lol

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

Vanillaware joins Tri-Crescendo, I'm actually sorry for this but oh well :lol

If you'd actually read the thread you'd realize that they are well on their way to meet the expectations of the game's LTD's.

Honestly it's like if a game doesn't reach past 100k day one the game "bombs" on Gaf.

 

[gantz85]

I really want to see what on earth is going to happen with the PS3 and the FFVII ACC, FFXIII Demo.. It's weird that we're getting to see the effect of a demo on hardware sales :lol

 

[botticus]

Final Fantasy XIII isn't a continuation of a highly succesful franchise on a new platform? (An underperforming one - 3 millions - unlike Wii - 8 millions -)

Is FFXIII likely to be ported to the PS2?

We're discussing potential sales of the demos people, not the full game.

You don't see any potential correlation between future sales of a game and sales of its demo?

 

[oneHeero]

I really want to see what on earth is going to happen with the PS3 and the FFVII ACC, FFXIII Demo.. It's weird that we're getting to see the effect of a demo on hardware sales :lol

I actually dont expect a boast in sales. If there is a boost its going to be small and down the following week. After that I expect gaf to have a thread dedicated to how the ps3 is now a failure since FF demo and movie did nothing for it so its now doomed.

 

[Dash Kappei]

If you'd actually read the thread you'd realize that they are well on their way to meet the expectations of the game's LTD's.

This.

Was it 40k or 56k?

 

[gantz85]

I actually dont expect a boast in sales. If there is a boost its going to be small and down the following week. After that I expect gaf to have a thread dedicated to how the ps3 is now a failure since FF demo and movie did nothing for it so its now doomed.

Well, aren't 10,000 Cloud Black PS3s on sale? There will be at least a 5,000 increase in the hardware sales because of that and that alone will be a noticeable difference.

If there are any virgin adopters because of FFXIII, there should be gradual software uptake increase for the other PS3 games as well (Yakuza 3, RE5 etc).

REALLLLLLY curious about how this is all going to pan out.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

If you'd actually read the thread you'd realize that they are well on their way to meet the expectations of the game's LTD's.

Honestly it's like if a game doesn't reach past 100k day one the game "bombs" on Gaf.

So if they expect it to bomb and it does within expectations that means it didn't bomb? What they expect to sell isn't a milestone that defines success or failure, see how Vanillaware relationships with publishers have gone, and see how a similar project like Odin Sphere did, then see how Muramasa stands.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

So if they expect it to bomb and it does within expectations that means it didn't bomb?

The game was expected to sell 56k months before it's release so unless while Marvelous approved of the game and while Vanillaware was developing it they said to themselves "Hey let's not aim for this game to succeed, screw keeping costs down or looking for the game to replicate it's success in foreign markets, let's have the game purposely bomb and fail and have us lose millions!"

failure, see how Vanillaware relationships with publishers have gone, and see how a similar project like Odin Sphere did, then see how Muramasa stands.

So a game selling over a quarter million copies world-wide (over 150k in America, 100k or so in Japan, and probaly sld similar in Europe), becoming a Greatest Hits Title, and becoming easily one of the best selling JRPG's without Final Fantasy on the title is now seen as subpar?

Really?

And what about the relationship with publishers? Grimgrimoire and Odin Sphere were developed at the same exact time, so I don't see how Vanillaware would have to be forced to switch publishers before a game is released, and it was Marvelous who wanted to produce Muramasa. To me it seems like Vanillaware doesn't like to stay with one publisher and/or their games are harder to get greenlit due to being 2D and not having an Otaku feel and look like overblown SNES games to keep budget costs down like most niche 2D games in Japan. (well except for that one game, which was their worst selling game of all-time, but still).

This.

Was it 40k or 56k?

56k. I know people are like "WAT but the ridiculous graphics!". Yeah the graphics are good but that's pretty much all the development goes to because the game isn't really heavy on level design. An interesting fact of 2D games is that while the sprite models are a bitch to work with designing level usually isn't that complicated as it requires just painting a background and creating a single frame for things like platforms and objects (usually). This is why I'm confident that this game will make profit when all is said and done as well as confident that Wario Land Shake It! turned in profit (if your niche hentai anime can, well I can only assume...). Compare this to a 3D game where every little thing needs to be created and detailed to give a true sense of a 3D world.


Not to mention the game's predecessor performed FAR better in North America then in it's homeland.

 

[wrowa]

If you'd actually read the thread you'd realize that they are well on their way to meet the expectations of the game's LTD's.

"Well on their way"? If I take a look at other Wii games with similiar first day sales it doesn't look like it will even reach 40k...

 

[inner-G]

I actually dont expect a boast in sales.

you're crazy, man.