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Media Create Sales 10/15 - 10/21 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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DeadyFernGarden
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You were saying?Magicpaint said:
PkunkFury said:
The PS2 has been a good home for conventional games since 7 years till this day. Although when you stop and think about it, innovative and unique games that are not labeled with the Nintendo sticker tends to bomb mysteriously like Okami, Ico and Shadow of the colossus even with the huge PS2's userbase so its really sad actually. I hope Capcom will port Zack and WIKI to the PS2 if it didn't do to well in the states and Europe too since this game deserves the sales more than those movie based games trash. BTW I was just teasing the Wii fans :lol
Lobster said:
Except it's not. The experience at home is vastly different, unless you invest a lot of money in it. People who bought DDR for consoles has since then moved on...years ago. And I think Konami got a little too aggressive with their song pack milking. Let's just consider it a fad and be done with it.
Phife Dawg
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Uh oh, those are some really worrying first day sales. WE DS is bomba am total. Same applies for EoJ and Z&W. I'm kinda confused that everyone is acting suprised about Z&W numbers though. Pretty much everyone agreed beforehand that Z&W would bomb hard despite supposedly being a good game (hello Okami).
EoJ is a phenomenal disappointment though, for me it was one of the few PS3 titles which I thought had at least a slim chance to do decently in Japan. And this shortly after the price cut without any other big releases on home consoles. Maybe the art is too western?
Ghost Squad may have low numbers but it's a quick arcade port.
EoJ is a phenomenal disappointment though, for me it was one of the few PS3 titles which I thought had at least a slim chance to do decently in Japan. And this shortly after the price cut without any other big releases on home consoles. Maybe the art is too western?
Ghost Squad may have low numbers but it's a quick arcade port.
Good man.Furoba said:Zack & Wiki doesn't have as many coverage as Mario Galaxy in Japan. I've seen shops that dedicated two whole shelves to that game, while Zack & Wiki only has one demo station.
I did buy Z&W though.
That wouldn't work though since it relies heavily on the controller. Plus it wouldn't sell on PS2 as well. A shame, really.sakuragi said:
Stumpokapow
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Phife Dawg said:
... in a niche genre that Japan is especially unfond of at home.
peter_pumpkinhead
Member
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
maybe it will have some legs with word of mouth:lol
Treasure Island Z is a bomb. Doesn't matter if people expected it to bomb, doesn't matter if people point out supposedly mitigating reasons behind its bombing, doesn't matter if people want to point their fingers at a PS3 game to divert attention away from its bombing (yes, Eye of Judgement is a bomb too; so what?). It bombed. Pure and simple.
Shipped, not sold. And this is a thread about Japanese sales. No third party Wii game has done that in Japan.
You are one of the worst, and yet at the same time most aggressive, fanboy spinners here. One would think that if you were to so completely dedicate your forum time to this sad endeavor, you'd at least try to be good at it. :/
I can't even begin to imagine how this game could be ported to the PS2.
Frillen said:
Shipped, not sold. And this is a thread about Japanese sales. No third party Wii game has done that in Japan.
cw_sasuke said:
You are one of the worst, and yet at the same time most aggressive, fanboy spinners here. One would think that if you were to so completely dedicate your forum time to this sad endeavor, you'd at least try to be good at it. :/
sakuragi said:
I can't even begin to imagine how this game could be ported to the PS2.
Stumpokapow
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ethelred said:
I can't speak authoritatively, but Red Steel and Rayman were both around 850-900k sold (Rayman being higher) when Ubi announced the million mark. Still irrelevant to Japanese sales (both bombed in Japan!) and this thread, but it's VERY likely that they've passed the million sellthrough mark.
Pureauthor
Member
ethelred said:
Didn't Dragona rule earlier that it's okay to use MC threads for general sales discussion or somesuch?
To be fair, it wasn't clear if sakuragi was referring to Japan or worldwide sales in his post, which might be why Frillen responded as if it was worldwide.ethelred said:
Regardless, Joshua made a chart a while ago showing that Wii has the advantage over PS3 in this aspect in Japan as well.
Pureauthor
Member
Do we really need to discuss why ZnW bombed? I could've given you the laundry list of reasons why it would tank saleswise the day after it was announced.
perfectchaos007
Member
Xeke said:
Famitsu wrong yet again. They thought it was going up 13k and it only went up 4k.
Stumpokapow
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perfectchaos007 said:
Put up or shut up; statistically, why is Media Create / Enterbrain more accurate than Famitsu in your opinion?
perfectchaos007
Member
Stumpokapow said:
Because Cheesemeister says so. Or else he would post famitsu
Rancid Mildew
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Zack and Wiki was always a niche title but these numbers are surprisingly low aren't they? It's a unique effort with lots of merit and there is no way that it can be done on any other platform and on top of that, it's offered at a low price. Even without marketing, I would expect more people to pick up the title. I was thinking it would hit 30,000 in Japan but that seems impossible now. It's such a shame since it has the best and most clever puzzles of any video game I've played in a very very long time. I hope North America and Europe can deliver Capcom the sales it deserves.
This a great example of what Nintendo should be doing. If Nintendo is serious about having successful third party efforts, they need to do marketing for these kinds of games. It's been working splendidly for Microsoft.
This a great example of what Nintendo should be doing. If Nintendo is serious about having successful third party efforts, they need to do marketing for these kinds of games. It's been working splendidly for Microsoft.
Cheesemeister
Member
perfectchaos007 said:
Uh, I just wrote the program to process what GAF was already going with.
BishopLamont
Banned
God Z&W was a major bomb, this does not bode well for third party on the Wii. Granted it was a new IP, but this is one of the few quality third party efforts on the Wii. Comeon Ghost squad beat it. I don't know what went wrong but I'm quite certain this isn't going to go unnoticed by third party.
perfectchaos007
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Cheesemeister said:
GAF is always right anyway. Since when has GAF steered you wrong?
JoshuaJSlone
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asfjas;dfasdperfectchaos007 said:
The biggest reason we primarily use Media Create is that we get its (non-through-the-grapevine) numbers a full week before the Famitsu equivalent.
Stumpokapow
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JoshuaJSlone said:
I wish someone would go back and do a Famitsu vs. Media Create vs. Dengeki thread like cvxfreak did a few years ago, where he listed dozens and dozens of pieces of software, and showed who had the highest/lowest/middle. That was a great idea.
Cheesemeister
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perfectchaos007 said:
You can't seriously want an honest response. :lol
perfectchaos007
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Stumpokapow said:
That wouldn't be a bad idea to do something like this anually
Rancid Mildew
Banned
ethelred said:
That's the part that worries me the most.
I can't be certain since I'm not privy to the inner workings of the big third party developers but I'd imagine that Zack and Wiki is the first litmus test (and the only one on the horizon?) that they would use to decide whether or not they should green light original projects for the Wii. I suppose games like Crystal Bearers and Umbrella Chronicles will still sell tremendously well but that's only because they carry the Final Fantasy and Resident Evil name. I can't imagine how a Square or Capcom executive could endorse an original product for the Wii if games like Zack and Wiki bomb.
If the Wii stays a cesspool of cheap cash ins and spin offs with once in a blue moon 1st party genius, the only one to blame is Nintendo. They should definitely take notice of what's been happening in the west. Original efforts like Gears of War did not become phenomenal hits without any assistance. Of course, Nintendo probably just doesn't care since they are rolling in cash with virtually no help from third parties.
Lobster said:
DDR hasn't been popular in Jpan for a long time. The last time I anyone cared about DDR here was about 2001. In the 4 years I have been living here I saw a grand total of 3 DDR machines and the people walking by them were waxing nostalgic about them, not actualy playing. You can see more DDR machines in American malls than in Japanese Arcades. That fad has passed.
Same with the home versions. They are now marketed more towards other countries than Japan itself. Still, that number is hella low.
So even if it were to sell well in the US, it'll be underreported on NPD? Sure they estimate Walmart, but from anecdotal evidence it seems they have a pretty disproportionate amount of the supply, at least for this first week. We'll see if that Svensson guy was accurate as far as more stores getting their stock by today/tomorrow.Lobster said: