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Media Create Sales 10/22 - 10/28 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Jiggy37 said:
I actually meant with regards to consoles; obviously I know that the DS has DQ4-6 and is the primary Tales platform.
DQ IV/V/VI are ports, not remakes. Nothing like DQ5:R. We have no idea if any DQ5:R style remakes will be done from now on, and if so on what console they will go.
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
truth by democracy?...and for all the fanboy ammo of varying reliability that's being kicked around, there are some disturbing trends that seem to be becoming apparent for japanese console game fans in general. i personally don't have a vested interest in any new console yet, but i'd sure like to see continued and increasing success for a number of small japanese dev houses, and i'd *way* rather see that success come from console games rather than handhelds (which don't suit my lifestyle at all, really).
There's also the changing Japanese culture to consider.
People who grew up on Famicom/SFC and the world of consoles are growing up, getting jobs, and quitting gaming.
These new kids taking their place grew up in a world of GBAs at school and on the train. Multiplayer not on a console, but on handhelds at the park. Then moved to the DS and PSP. There's a good chance that kids growing up today in Japan aren't particularly interested in console gaming.
People who grew up on Famicom/SFC and the world of consoles are growing up, getting jobs, and quitting gaming.
These new kids taking their place grew up in a world of GBAs at school and on the train. Multiplayer not on a console, but on handhelds at the park. Then moved to the DS and PSP. There's a good chance that kids growing up today in Japan aren't particularly interested in console gaming.
farnham said:
I know that. It's just that I have the impression that games on PSP don't go unnoticed if marketed properly. Worthy games on Wii/PS3/360, with the exception of Dragon Quest Swords and the Wi trifecta (sport, play, party), just flop and go unnoticed, no matter what.
that being said, a well positioned game on PSP has more chances of generating decent/good sales than one on the Wii/PS3/360. That's the disturbing in all of it, this is the PSP I am talking about, the biggest software sales fiasco in the late videogame history and still a game on the platform would perform better than on the home consoles. @_@.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So to get to something a bit fresher, let me bring up something I haven't done in quite some time. My weekly notable things have become a bit rote, so these lesser ones have fallen a bit by the wayside.
So here are year-to-date year-over-year hardware changes where applicable, and what that would suggest for year-end total if applied to last year's final figures. Using Media Create.
GBA: -67.6% (1.1K)
GBASP: -89.8% (22.7K)
GBM: -79.8% (29.2K)
DS: -99.7% (2.94K)
DSL: +8.1% (8.03M)
PS2: -46.5% (770K)
PSP: +46.7% (2.71M)
X360: +101.6% (391K)
GBA sum: -85.8% (52.6K)
DS sum: -7.8% (7.70M)
Nintendo sum: +29.0% (12.5M)
Sony sum: +33.7% (5.01M)
Consoles: +224.3% (10.0M)
Portables: -1.4% (10.4M)
Total: +30.9% (17.9M)
Of course some of those say some crazy things. Like, last year console sales were pretty slow until they exploded in late November and December. Thus, this calculation assumes a proportionally equal explosion will happen this year, which isn't very likely.
So here are year-to-date year-over-year hardware changes where applicable, and what that would suggest for year-end total if applied to last year's final figures. Using Media Create.
GBA: -67.6% (1.1K)
GBASP: -89.8% (22.7K)
GBM: -79.8% (29.2K)
DS: -99.7% (2.94K)
DSL: +8.1% (8.03M)
PS2: -46.5% (770K)
PSP: +46.7% (2.71M)
X360: +101.6% (391K)
GBA sum: -85.8% (52.6K)
DS sum: -7.8% (7.70M)
Nintendo sum: +29.0% (12.5M)
Sony sum: +33.7% (5.01M)
Consoles: +224.3% (10.0M)
Portables: -1.4% (10.4M)
Total: +30.9% (17.9M)
Of course some of those say some crazy things. Like, last year console sales were pretty slow until they exploded in late November and December. Thus, this calculation assumes a proportionally equal explosion will happen this year, which isn't very likely.
DQV only exists on SNES and PS2, DQ VI only on SNES. No way are V and VI going to be ports.Stumpokapow said:
Great Rumbler
Member
Xeke said:
I've been trying to say that same thing, but...people just won't listen.
For fun, here's the threads and launch numbers for some of the DS's best selling titles:
Brain Training 1 - 43,000
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78650
Brain Training 2 - 414,000
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79397
Animal Crossing - 325,466
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78597
Mario Kart DS - 219,000
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78612
Big Brain Academy - 60,000
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78645
Tetris DS - 218,099
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112920
Bonus:
Wii Sports - 176,167
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=132599
Mario Party 8 - 264,953
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=176534&highlight=media+create
Moor-Angol
Banned
Hey guys, i spent a lot of time fixing my new PC (with 8800gt, yeah!!!) and i missed today posts.
What happened you are so excited posting old numbers ???
What happened you are so excited posting old numbers ???
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
JoshuaJSlone said:
You're certainly right about that but I assume the V/VI port-makes will just use the IV port engine. So I'd guess that while V and VI will not be strictly speaking ports, they certainly won't be the sort of revolutionary remakes that the original DQIVR and DQVR were or that FF3/FF4R are.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Jesus...
This thread makes me want to fucking quit gaming, and certainly not because of SMG's alleged opening day sales.
This thread makes me want to fucking quit gaming, and certainly not because of SMG's alleged opening day sales.
solid2snake
Banned
JoshuaJSlone said:
Moor-Angol
Banned
Now i understand why people is so excited... i remember yesterday someone saying "AC6 will sell more than SMG" :lol
i tried to play twilight princess in a mood of reconciliation and fond remembrance but it kept giving way to a mood of irritation with its pointless filler and abysmal pacing
second time's the charm
or it had better be, since there isn't going to be any third time
second time's the charm
or it had better be, since there isn't going to be any third time
Great Rumbler
Member
ThirdEye said:
You're still comparing one day versus two.
Not to mention that Wii Sports was a LAUNCH TITLE, not to mention THE launch title, for a launch where the Wii sold 350,000 units. Furthermore, SMG is going to do more than 170,000 it's first week and maybe even more than 260,000 since apparently it's first day was better than Mario Party 8's first day.
ThirdEye said:
Why? It happened to Mario Sunshine as well. Even if Mario Galaxy will go on to sell 1 million copies, no one will believe its a succes because it can't beat Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy or Pokemon. People don't even realize what 1 million means in Japan, its fucking huge.
solid2snake
Banned
ksamedi said:
and don't forget, NSMB sold 5 mio in japan.
Nintendo needs to start releasing more software in NA first. No way would SMG have done only 130k (not saying it's a bad number or anything) but had it been released here on the 1st it would have done a lot better. If this game pulls a TP (good but nowhere near NA) in regards to sales then I think that's going to send a big message to Nintendo.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I was so engulfed with Ar Tonelico 2 and praying that it gets a USA release that I totally forgot about the Hardware numbers.
The PSP and DS are selling pretty damn well, the way it should be.
The PSP and DS are selling pretty damn well, the way it should be.
charlequin
Banned
Stumpokapow said:
DQIV is, indeed, an enhanced port of the PSX version. However, 5 and 6 are going to have to be done over from scratch -- they're not just going to be ports of the SFAM versions. VI, especially, has never been remade, which means the DS version will be getting the first new-assets, new-added-content, full-on remake of the game.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Disappointing numbers indeed.
I suspect it'll have legs and reach 500,000 bare minimum. But 130k ain't so hot, unless its stays that high or goes even higher next week.
I suspect it'll have legs and reach 500,000 bare minimum. But 130k ain't so hot, unless its stays that high or goes even higher next week.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I said minimum, not only. it isn't a race to be sure, but if the sales take a significant drop next week, problems.
it isn't a race to be sure, but if the sales take a significant drop next week, problems.Great Rumbler
Member
RurouniZel said:I said minimum, not only.
Either way, that's really lowballing its liftetime total. This week alone [three days] is probably going to be at least 250k, and probably closer to 350k.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
You're probably right, but I just wasn't setting my expectations too high in the first place, because while it is Mario, its a 3-D mario whereas NSMB was 2-D.
BishopLamont
Banned
What's with all the fuss, SMG had a better opening then MP8 and MP8 is going to be a million seller soon. Which means SMG should perform the same. SMS failed to reach a million.