Smiles and Cries
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Pachael said:
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Media Create Sales 10/29 - 11/4 2007
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JoshuaJSlone
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TP and SMG at least have successful predecessors to compare to, but how do you figure Dragon Quest Swords is underwhelming? It's among the more successful DQ spinoffs.TreasureHunterG said:
TreasureHunterG
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Mudhoney said:
Well, for a notorious million seller series, even the side-games (DQM Joker says hi), could have being better.
Rocksteady33
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TreasureHunterG said:
20 million userbase says hi back.
Attack You
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Pachael said:
Depends on how well-received the sideways-wiimote control configuration for Brawl is. If Nintendo finds out people are absolutely comfortable with frantically tapping the d-pad to play the game, then there's pretty much nothing stopping a handheld Smash Bros. in the future.
Rocksteady33
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Xeke said:
Regardless the userbase is much bigger then the Wii's. It's a retarded comparison.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Xeke said:
So all 6 million phats just take up space and aren't played by anybody? or even half? Keep in mind, when you trade up to a lite, you either trade in the phat for others to buy, or give them as a gift. I'd bet a large portion of that 6 million are still being played. I doubt even close to a million were just abandoned.
TreasureHunterG
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Rocksteady33 said:
Super Mario Galaxy is here to disagree with your logic. If were true what you're saying, SMG should have outsell first week SMS's sales by some margin. Wii userbase now is higher than GC when SMS was released. Higher userbase not always means it'll sell better.
Smiles and Cries
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Lobster said:
I'm over that now...
this is the guy that really deserves our tears
Smiles and Cries
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by that time I'll be playing it
JoshuaJSlone
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Dragon Quest Swords beats both. Remember, their first week was Wii launch, so to best DQS's ~300K they'd have had to each sold to something like 86% of the userbase.puebla said:
Dark Ninja
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Hells yeahSmiles and Cries said:Jump Superstars
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laserbeam said:
Did it really have alot higher expecation? I wasnt som much around on internet forums back then. But SMG is said to be a true sequel (or something) to Mario 64 so i would think the expectation was higher than 251k the first week.
citrus lump
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Meier said:
I don't think SMG will sell that well.
I believe it'll stall out around the 2.2 million mark.
Adam Blade
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ethelred said:
Oh great, now he's speaking in third-person.
Phife Dawg
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Using Moor-Angol's site:Sho_Nuff82 said:
SMS: 280.610 SMG: 251.000
ACZero: 117.390 AC6: 77.000
While neither titles managed to surpass it's predecessor in the first week, AC series has been on a downward slope before, which is now pretty much cemented considering that the drop-off for AC6 will be huge if it follows the usual 360 trend. 77k is good for 360 but for the series? Not so much. Too bad really. Btw is this a 360 exclusive or is a PS3 port coming?
Yeah those otaku are a scary bunch.a Master Ninja said:
Did just as I expected.jj984jj said:
They seem to be pretty happy with their DS, which worries me a bit tbh. As much as I like my DS I mainly play it on the go (portable system and all) I wouldn't want Japan to switch to handhelds almost completely.schuelma said:
Welcome to months ago (mc threads say hi).TreasureHunterG said:
Pristine_Condition
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Phife Dawg said:
It's all rumors and speculation at this point, but the Ace Combat fanboys seem to think that AC6 is exclusive to 360, with AC7 to follow on the PS3, similar to how Namco worked Ridge Racer.
Green Shinobi
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I'm sure Ace Combat 7 wouldn't be exclusive to PS3 though. That kind of decision would solidify Namco has a company run by bone-heads.Pristine_Condition said:
Mariah Carey
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TreasureHunterG said:
...and cater to an audience that doesn't seem to exist anymore?
Green Shinobi
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Because the 360 has the largest userbase among the next gen consoles, and Namco didn't want to make an Ace Combat game with waggle.mabuza said:
But seriously, there's no way you would make one game in the series exclusive to one console, then make the next game in the series exclusive to the other console. It just doesn't work that way. And no, Ridge Racer 7 doesn't say hi for at least two reasons that anyone with the capacity for critical thought can think of.
Diatribe1974
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Wow....3 360 games in the top 30. When's the last time this happened? Last Xmas?
AC6 had a good debut, no argument there.
I actually find the sales on the Wii side encouraging though. Sure, SMG only sold 251k first week, but this is the first time Wii Sports has been back in the top 10 in four or five weeks now. Since Wii Sports is the game to buy with your Wii, I suspect that means that a lot of the Galaxy owners are probably new console purchasers, who picked up both Galaxy and Wii. That gives Galaxy a chance at having really great legs, and with the holidays coming up, it may actual sell better in successive weeks than it did first week as the userbase expands its demographic.
That's my interpretation though, so I'm probably wrong.
I actually find the sales on the Wii side encouraging though. Sure, SMG only sold 251k first week, but this is the first time Wii Sports has been back in the top 10 in four or five weeks now. Since Wii Sports is the game to buy with your Wii, I suspect that means that a lot of the Galaxy owners are probably new console purchasers, who picked up both Galaxy and Wii. That gives Galaxy a chance at having really great legs, and with the holidays coming up, it may actual sell better in successive weeks than it did first week as the userbase expands its demographic.
That's my interpretation though, so I'm probably wrong.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
ok, it might be #1 for a couple weeks but i doubt Mario Galaxy is gonna stay in the top 10 for very long. I give it a month tops before it drops out of the top 10.
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Xeke said:
We'll see if you say the same when/if SMG has sold over a million copies
justchris said:
Actually that's a pretty good point. It suggests that galaxy at least sold a few systems. Maybe not a massive number, but presumably, the people buying it for galaxy will be waiting for more traditional games.
Hopefully that will become a trend that grows over the holidays, and smash brothers could also have a similar effect.
Xeke said:
Not disputing your point, but didn't the DS mario64 remake sell a million or so? It wasn't a megaton hit, but I think it sold pretty good. Clearly, the japanese seem to prefer 2D mario games, but maybe the japanese shift towards portables is a very signigicant factor as well. If this had been released on DS, I suspect it would have sold much better in the first week.
Eteric Rice
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Galaxy will likely have legs, as Wii owners who have nothing to play will likely trickle in to buy it over time.
At least until Brawl, or one of the other bigger titles come in.
At least until Brawl, or one of the other bigger titles come in.
davepoobond said:
I suspect Galaxy will be #1 right up until Wii Fit comes out. It might just barely manage to stick it out at #2 through December, but with DQIV & FFIV coming on the DS...well, let's just say while I think Galaxy will have really nice legs, it's not going to be #1 after November.
Krowley said:
That's what I'm thinking. Evidence suggests that, up until now, Wii has had a mostly casual audience. And Wii has more games in the top 30 this week than it has lately, with most of the ones that are commonly there getting a boost (at least as far as ranking goes, not so sure on absoulte sales numbers). Also, from what Vinnk said a few weeks ago, apparently NiGHTS had more buzz than SMG did among his hardcore friends, so that might do a lot to expand the userbase on Wii before SSBB even releases.
That's more hope on my part than based on any actual proof though. The next 3 weeks will be a key factor for determing the future of the Wii userbase.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Eteric Rice said:
that's like saying people who don't listen to music are likely to buy a cd because they haven't listened to anything for a long time. they have a cd player, so they must buy something!
Mike Works
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this may have been asked already, but does anyone know how many copies of the game nintendo shipped?
FieryBalrog
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Oblivion said:
You say that like 3 years between home console Mario-as-main-character Platformers is some sort of eternity.
Wasn't everyone blaming Galaxy's sales on Nintendo's piss-poor advertising of the game? If it is the case that a good half of Japan doesn't even know it exists, perhaps Nintendo airing the (oh I dunno) NINE Galaxy ads shown on the Japanese Wii website with a little more frequency would create this game-buying frenzy people want this game to have.
Also, anyone who thinks that Wii Fit is going to kill any interest whatsoever in Mario Galaxy need to remember that the average consumer isn't like us and buys something when it comes out only to completely lose interest in it when there's another game on the shelf, and truthfully, these casual gamers might see a Mario title as slightly more approachable than other hardcore content and pick it up out of *gasp* SHEER CURIOSITY. (I know, I have some gall to insinuate that casual gamers might want a "real" game... get out your thumbscrews, fellas)
Galaxy had an OK launch, but nothing that could be considered fantastic, and Nintendo is mostly to blame for it by not telling any gamers outside of the hardcore set that the game even bloody released, not Japan's lacking interest in the series. As such, I expect getting people into stores for the over-promoted Wii Fit launch may bolster a lot more sales of the game than people give Nintendo credit for. Lest we forget, when Brain Training skyrocketed up the charts, it brought almost every other semi-hardcore game further up the charts with it (see Mario Kart DS).
Also, anyone who thinks that Wii Fit is going to kill any interest whatsoever in Mario Galaxy need to remember that the average consumer isn't like us and buys something when it comes out only to completely lose interest in it when there's another game on the shelf, and truthfully, these casual gamers might see a Mario title as slightly more approachable than other hardcore content and pick it up out of *gasp* SHEER CURIOSITY. (I know, I have some gall to insinuate that casual gamers might want a "real" game... get out your thumbscrews, fellas)
Galaxy had an OK launch, but nothing that could be considered fantastic, and Nintendo is mostly to blame for it by not telling any gamers outside of the hardcore set that the game even bloody released, not Japan's lacking interest in the series. As such, I expect getting people into stores for the over-promoted Wii Fit launch may bolster a lot more sales of the game than people give Nintendo credit for. Lest we forget, when Brain Training skyrocketed up the charts, it brought almost every other semi-hardcore game further up the charts with it (see Mario Kart DS).
Attack You
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Mike Works said:
Galaxy? Hovering around 700K, I think. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm off.
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Mike Works said:
700,000 is the number I see tossed around