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Media Create Sales 11/19 - 11/25 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Vinnk, Can you check out this site? http://ex23.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1196792693/
From my understanding, this is the place where we normally get the early Famitsu data.
Edit:
In fact, I'm just not going to even post this data. It lacks Basara 2 and has Ratchet, so it is almost assuredly wrong.
This might just be some random posters predictions, so if you could check it out, Vinnk or another Japanese reader, it'd be good. Thanks!
From my understanding, this is the place where we normally get the early Famitsu data.
Edit:
In fact, I'm just not going to even post this data. It lacks Basara 2 and has Ratchet, so it is almost assuredly wrong.
This might just be some random posters predictions, so if you could check it out, Vinnk or another Japanese reader, it'd be good. Thanks!
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Big post for a biiiiiiig update. Since I already had most of the Famitsu weekly info from recent years gathered up from when doing DS/PSP/PS3/Wii data, I decided to do the rest of the other systems in one go. PS2, GBA, GCN, Xbox, and X360 from 2004-present. Over 1000 new games, and the amount of weekly data increased by about 50%.
This is a Good Thing, but the data also isn't perfect. From the combination of Famitsu's bungles (sometimes listing the incorrect platform or release year), errors of omission from old GAF translations of Top lists (occasionally missing an "Ultimate Hits" label or whatnot), and my errors from putting it together (I once had a game and its Prologue-like predecessor as one entity), there are probably many more oddities that I just didn't notice. If you see something off, give me a shout.
The titles are also pretty goofy. If I didn't recognize its proper title right away or there wasn't one given in a Top 500 list, it pretty much got the goofy Babelfish name. If anyone wants to help fix titles, that'd be groovy. Maybe pick a series you're familiar with. I know Namco's Taiko games ended up with some goofy "drum blimey" titles, and Harvest Moon doesn't Babelfish into anything like Harvest Moon at all. If you see a title you can make correct, the simplest way would be to put its Game ID followed by a comma, then the correct name, and send the bunch to me. Like so:
543, The Legend of Translation
1433, The Legend of Translation (Babelfish the Best)
1500, The Legend of Translation II: Romanizing
Though to be honest, I'd be perfectly happy leaving some of these fun names. I think the world is a little better place for having "Davy takes four Derby horses to conceive!"
If you've got a fix on a publisher, price, or whatever else formatting it the same way would be best; just group them apart so we don't get a game called 5800. I can take it from there.
This nearly fills in the present and recent systems that we can get a pretty complete picture of. I've got some X360 monthly data by way of donny by way of Dalthien (I think) that I haven't gotten to yet, but that's about it. Older systems go back far enough that I wouldn't be able to get a complete picture, except for maybe WonderSwan. Maybe I'll want to go back and put in such data for at least PS2 launch and on, so at least there won't be gaps in the weekly rankings.
There are still things that sites like Japan-GameCharts have that my data is missing, though. He tries to give the best view of the present, I try to give the best view of an arbitrary point in the past. Topical example: Super Mario Sunshine. According to my data, it makes it all the way up to 677,440. According to the latest Famitsu info on J-GC, it's up to at least 789,989. It never reappeared in the Top 30 after 2002, and didn't sell enough to make it into the Top 100 for 2003 or later, so it's slipped under my radar. Some day we'll get more comprehensive data for earlier years, though.
Just a few interesting tidbits from this mass of data.
I was having a problem with inconsistent dates for the release of Hot Shots Golf 4 (PlayStation 2 the Best). As it turns out, it was counting separately for a 3800 yen release in 2004, and a 2800 yen release in 2005. All added up, the three versions of Hot Shots Golf 4 at least pass 1.5 million.
Fire Emblem: GCN vs Wii vs PS2, including Berwick Saga. I believe the first Tear Ring Saga on PS1 did much better than any of these games, buuuut it's not in the database.
Mario Party 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, Advance, DS
Super Mario Advance 1, 2, 3, 4 through 2 years
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Adventure DX, Heroes (GCN), and Secret Rings
Halo 1, 2, 3
I know you don't all have the URLs to my various things always at hand, so here are the few most important for finding/using this software data.
Game Search
Japanese Software Sales Line Graph Generator
Weekly data from week of 2004-12-27, modify the week in the URL to get other weeks
Total PS2 software through the week of 2001-02-19, modify the platform and week in the URL to get what you want.
This is a Good Thing, but the data also isn't perfect. From the combination of Famitsu's bungles (sometimes listing the incorrect platform or release year), errors of omission from old GAF translations of Top lists (occasionally missing an "Ultimate Hits" label or whatnot), and my errors from putting it together (I once had a game and its Prologue-like predecessor as one entity), there are probably many more oddities that I just didn't notice. If you see something off, give me a shout.
The titles are also pretty goofy. If I didn't recognize its proper title right away or there wasn't one given in a Top 500 list, it pretty much got the goofy Babelfish name. If anyone wants to help fix titles, that'd be groovy. Maybe pick a series you're familiar with. I know Namco's Taiko games ended up with some goofy "drum blimey" titles, and Harvest Moon doesn't Babelfish into anything like Harvest Moon at all. If you see a title you can make correct, the simplest way would be to put its Game ID followed by a comma, then the correct name, and send the bunch to me. Like so:
543, The Legend of Translation
1433, The Legend of Translation (Babelfish the Best)
1500, The Legend of Translation II: Romanizing
Though to be honest, I'd be perfectly happy leaving some of these fun names. I think the world is a little better place for having "Davy takes four Derby horses to conceive!"
If you've got a fix on a publisher, price, or whatever else formatting it the same way would be best; just group them apart so we don't get a game called 5800. I can take it from there.
This nearly fills in the present and recent systems that we can get a pretty complete picture of. I've got some X360 monthly data by way of donny by way of Dalthien (I think) that I haven't gotten to yet, but that's about it. Older systems go back far enough that I wouldn't be able to get a complete picture, except for maybe WonderSwan. Maybe I'll want to go back and put in such data for at least PS2 launch and on, so at least there won't be gaps in the weekly rankings.
There are still things that sites like Japan-GameCharts have that my data is missing, though. He tries to give the best view of the present, I try to give the best view of an arbitrary point in the past. Topical example: Super Mario Sunshine. According to my data, it makes it all the way up to 677,440. According to the latest Famitsu info on J-GC, it's up to at least 789,989. It never reappeared in the Top 30 after 2002, and didn't sell enough to make it into the Top 100 for 2003 or later, so it's slipped under my radar. Some day we'll get more comprehensive data for earlier years, though.
Just a few interesting tidbits from this mass of data.
I was having a problem with inconsistent dates for the release of Hot Shots Golf 4 (PlayStation 2 the Best). As it turns out, it was counting separately for a 3800 yen release in 2004, and a 2800 yen release in 2005. All added up, the three versions of Hot Shots Golf 4 at least pass 1.5 million.
Fire Emblem: GCN vs Wii vs PS2, including Berwick Saga. I believe the first Tear Ring Saga on PS1 did much better than any of these games, buuuut it's not in the database.
Mario Party 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, Advance, DS
Super Mario Advance 1, 2, 3, 4 through 2 years
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Adventure DX, Heroes (GCN), and Secret Rings
Halo 1, 2, 3
I know you don't all have the URLs to my various things always at hand, so here are the few most important for finding/using this software data.
Game Search
Japanese Software Sales Line Graph Generator
Weekly data from week of 2004-12-27, modify the week in the URL to get other weeks
Total PS2 software through the week of 2001-02-19, modify the platform and week in the URL to get what you want.
donny2112 said:Vinnk, Can you check out this site? http://ex23.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1196792693/
From my understanding, this is the place where we normally get the early Famitsu data.
Edit:
In fact, I'm just not going to even post this data. It lacks Basara 2 and has Ratchet, so it is almost assuredly wrong.
This might just be some random posters predictions, so if you could check it out, Vinnk or another Japanese reader, it'd be good. Thanks!
2ch is blocked at my work also. Sorry. I could read it when I get home, but by that time, someone else will probably have it translated.
Vinnk said:
Thanks, anyways. The normal posters of the early Famitsu numbers should be here soon.
JoshuaJSlone said:
Nice. Good work!
JoshuaJSlone said:
That was fun. The Famicom Mini games were particularly troublesome, and the PS2 and GBA sometimes switched randomly. :lol
JoshuaJSlone said:
http://www.*************/console/ps2/data/924772.html
I think it could also be called "Let's Make a Derby Horse 4," but I usually go with the GameFAQs translation for the older stuff.
JoshuaJSlone said:
januswon
JoshuaJSlone said:
Yeah. Just going by the Japanese name, Famitsu doesn't distinguish the two. I just manually labelled the second one as (BEST Reprint) since I don't keep track of the price info. I'm glad you were able to keep them straight!
JoshuaJSlone said:
Code:
20010527 PS1 TearRing Saga 230489 NEW
20010603 PS1 TearRing Saga 53330 283819
20010610 PS1 TearRing Saga 23259 307077
20010617 PS1 TearRing Saga 14873 321950
20010624 PS1 TearRing Saga 10777 332727
20010701 PS1 TearRing Saga 7970 340697
20010708 PS1 TearRing Saga 4734 345430
20010715 PS1 TearRing Saga 3929 349360
20011230 PS1 TearRing Saga 366142JoshuaJSlone said:
Always useful. Thanks!
creamsugar
Member
Famitsu
DSL 126000
PSP 78000
PS2 15000
PS3 41000
Wii 71000
360 5200
1-10
1.Layton2　308000
2.Wii Fit　254000
3.SD Gundam ggene spirits (PS2)　231000
4.DQ4　132000（734000）
5.BASARA2 Heroes PS2　94000
6.WE2008PS2　89000（395000）
7.Mario Party DS　57000（521000）
8.Mario & Sonic　42000（109000）
9.Yugioh wcs2008 (DS)　39000
10.SMG　36000（452000）
DSL 126000
PSP 78000
PS2 15000
PS3 41000
Wii 71000
360 5200
1-10
1.Layton2　308000
2.Wii Fit　254000
3.SD Gundam ggene spirits (PS2)　231000
4.DQ4　132000（734000）
5.BASARA2 Heroes PS2　94000
6.WE2008PS2　89000（395000）
7.Mario Party DS　57000（521000）
8.Mario & Sonic　42000（109000）
9.Yugioh wcs2008 (DS)　39000
10.SMG　36000（452000）
test_account
XP-39C²
SMG is still hanging in there
test_account
XP-39C²
I just noticed that Mario & Sonic is also doing pretty good for the 2nd week.
slaughterking
Member
Go Layton. <3 And better come fast to NA or Europe.
And Mario & Sonic has a surprisingly strong second week. First day sales were around 15.000, so the LTD will end up 10 times bigger than that. Pretty unique.
And Mario & Sonic has a surprisingly strong second week. First day sales were around 15.000, so the LTD will end up 10 times bigger than that. Pretty unique.
Cosmonaut X
Member
creamsugar said:
Wow @ DS, it really never will stop selling.
Wii got a really nice bump, as expected from Wii Fit.
Software:
Seriously WOW @ Layton 2. Really nice numbers, can we expect it to keep selling like the first one?
Wii Fit did also nicely, I bet it will keep selling really nice. Man I want to try that thing.
DQ4 looks like it could easily achieve the same number like the PS remake. Is the game supply constrained? it will also be interisting to watch how it will do in the coming weeks.
I'm also suprises Mario& Sonic still sells good, I thought it would drop out of Top10.
And yay @ SMG. It definitely seems to have legs and I believe it didn't drop that much since last week.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Wow, Mario & Sonic may be showing early signs of legs. Super Mario Galaxy is definitely showing signs of legs. Wii Fit did far better than I expected (one day of sales!). DQIV seems to be going to the same school of hard knocks as other hotly demanded SE titles on the DS.
Last but not least, congrats to Level 5 on Layton. Excellent opening numbers.
Last but not least, congrats to Level 5 on Layton. Excellent opening numbers.
I think those WiiFit numbers are really good - only 2 days of sales vs. the traditional 4 for all the other opening week titles like Layton, right? And didn't SMG open with around 250,000 as well? So WiiFit matched SMG's opening week in half the time...I won't comment on my feelings on that :/ (though I'm not a WiiFit troll - I plan on getting it myself).
And the 300,000 retail shipment was just a rumor, wasn't it? In any case, ~85% of the shipment in 2 days is pretty amazing, and it makes it seem likely that the first shipment was sold out by now.
And the 300,000 retail shipment was just a rumor, wasn't it? In any case, ~85% of the shipment in 2 days is pretty amazing, and it makes it seem likely that the first shipment was sold out by now.
BishopLamont
Banned
All 3 Mario games have legs. WiiFit going to be a monster.
I think this is the best of both worlds here - Wii Fit definitely did the big numbers for its 2-day debut, but it still didn't take the number 1 slot from a very deserving sequel to a promising IP. In other words, gaming is FAR from dead.
Nice hardware numbers too... But I wonder what they will be like after the not-holiday-but-numbers-still-go-up-anyway season?
Nice hardware numbers too... But I wonder what they will be like after the not-holiday-but-numbers-still-go-up-anyway season?
My prediction was 240k for WiiFit, so I'm not far off Wii gets a significant bump, PS3 steadily keeps above 40k. The revision seems to have done nothing for the PS2, 20m is probably the saturation point for home consoles in Japan. The software still sells though (over 400k software sales for PS2).
Wii gets a significant bump, PS3 steadily keeps above 40k. The revision seems to have done nothing for the PS2, 20m is probably the saturation point for home consoles in Japan. The software still sells though (over 400k software sales for PS2).
creamsugar
Member
Others
12.WE2008 PS3　31000（176000）
14.Wii Sports　27000（2162000）
15.Wii Play　26000（1707000）
18.Musou5 PS3　15000（295000）
19.がんばる私の家計ダイアリー (DS)　14000（310000）
21.REUC　13000（147000）
22.Mario Kart DS　13000（2566000）
24.Layton1　12000（696000）
26.Pokemon dungeon 　12000（1076000）
27.MHP2　11000（1387000）
New Games
11.Assassins Creed　34000
16.Natuto2 Wii　20000
17.Disgaea PSP　17000
25.Precure5 DS　12000
外.BASARA2 Heroes Wii　8600
外.Izuna2　6500
外.Super Swing Golf Season 2　6500
外.GUILTY GEAR 2 -OVERTURE-　5300
外.Another Century's Episode 2 Special Vocal Version　4900
外.Kabutore Next　3400
外.Tony Hawk's Project 8 PS3　1800
外.Tony Hawk's Project 8 360　1100
12.WE2008 PS3　31000（176000）
14.Wii Sports　27000（2162000）
15.Wii Play　26000（1707000）
18.Musou5 PS3　15000（295000）
19.がんばる私の家計ダイアリー (DS)　14000（310000）
21.REUC　13000（147000）
22.Mario Kart DS　13000（2566000）
24.Layton1　12000（696000）
26.Pokemon dungeon 　12000（1076000）
27.MHP2　11000（1387000）
New Games
11.Assassins Creed　34000
16.Natuto2 Wii　20000
17.Disgaea PSP　17000
25.Precure5 DS　12000
外.BASARA2 Heroes Wii　8600
外.Izuna2　6500
外.Super Swing Golf Season 2　6500
外.GUILTY GEAR 2 -OVERTURE-　5300
外.Another Century's Episode 2 Special Vocal Version　4900
外.Kabutore Next　3400
外.Tony Hawk's Project 8 PS3　1800
外.Tony Hawk's Project 8 360　1100
ShmarthurShmooner
Member
- nice sales for layton 2! i hope it beats mario party ds, that would be a very good signal to third parties on nintendo platforms.
- wiifit's next 2-3 weeks will be decisive, if it drops below 100-150k it's not gonna be the hit everybody thought it would be.
- 41k ps3s, probably even lower on media create... gt5p, we need u!
- wiifit's next 2-3 weeks will be decisive, if it drops below 100-150k it's not gonna be the hit everybody thought it would be.
- 41k ps3s, probably even lower on media create... gt5p, we need u!
BishopLamont
Banned
ShmarthurShmooner said:
Let's not forget Wii Sports did it by selling merely 30-40k a week.
GreenNight
Member
Famitsu
DSL 126000
PSP 78000
PS2 15000
PS3 41000
Wii 71000
360 5200
1-10
1. Layton 2 - 　308,000
2. Wii Fit　 - 254,000
3. SD Gundam Ggene Spirits (PS2)　 - 231,000
4. Dragon Quest 4 - 132,000 （734,000）
5. BASARA2 Heroes PS2　 - 94,000
6. WE2008 (PS2) - 　89,000 （395,000）
7. Mario Party DS　 - 57,000 （521,000）
8. Mario & Sonic　 - 42,000 （109,000）
9. Yugioh Wcs2008 (DS)　 - 39,000
10. Super Mario Galaxy - 　36,000 （452,000)
Spaces work some fucking wonders people.
DSL 126000
PSP 78000
PS2 15000
PS3 41000
Wii 71000
360 5200
1-10
1. Layton 2 - 　308,000
2. Wii Fit　 - 254,000
3. SD Gundam Ggene Spirits (PS2)　 - 231,000
4. Dragon Quest 4 - 132,000 （734,000）
5. BASARA2 Heroes PS2　 - 94,000
6. WE2008 (PS2) - 　89,000 （395,000）
7. Mario Party DS　 - 57,000 （521,000）
8. Mario & Sonic　 - 42,000 （109,000）
9. Yugioh Wcs2008 (DS)　 - 39,000
10. Super Mario Galaxy - 　36,000 （452,000)
Spaces work some fucking wonders people.
BishopLamont
Banned
Fixed.GreenNight said:
No. Doing between 30-40k for the past few weeks are "legs".loosus said: