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Media Create Sales 4/2 - 4/8
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Zerostatic
Banned
I love that the Wii is winning Japan. It's my only next gen system as of now and probably for quite some time and I love Japanese Games!!! If this trend continues prepare for a healthy dose of JRPGs. Nintendo hasn't had that on a home console since the SNES.
_Alkaline_
Member
Zerostatic said:
lol wii ain't next-gen.
moku said:
Homeland?
PS2 sold 38 million and USA and growing, about 35 million in Europe, and only around 20 million in Japan. Sony may still have a homebase in Japan, but they are an international company and PS3 downfall in USA and Europe would be much more hurtful than Japan. Which is the lowest Sony fanbase.
Bearillusion
Banned
A price cut is a start but it will do nothing if there aren't games that people want to play.
gamergirly
Member
Zerostatic said:
Some old fashioned, PS2 level graphic rpgs. Great characters, great stories. Wii can repair the damage to the rpg genre
A Black Falcon
Member
aeolist said:
Sure there is: if their manufacturing fails to make enough. Otherwise... yeah. They'll sell everything they ship.
gamergirly said:
I'm sure they will show up eventually... there's virtually no way they won't, not with this kind of success.
Xisiqomelir
Member
moku said:
Well, maybe they could go multiplatform and port to the X...whoops.
Agent Icebeezy
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moku said:
THey better give the Wii a look if they haven't already.
Xisiqomelir
Member
schuelma said:
I thought the moku train was FFXIV. XIII is bold.
Cheesemeister
Member
_Alkaline_
Member
There's very little chance FFXIII will come to Wii. That game was designed to be a highly cinematic experience and something wii couldn't effectively manage.
Now, FFXIV on the other hand, is a better chance because (like DQ9) they can change their direction for the series before development starts, rather than during development like some of you guys are suggesting with FFXIII.
Now, FFXIV on the other hand, is a better chance because (like DQ9) they can change their direction for the series before development starts, rather than during development like some of you guys are suggesting with FFXIII.
Wyndstryker
Member
Good grief at the PS3...
All Sony products went down this week...all Nintendo products went up this week...
DS is 4 mill away from the PS2 LTD
Wii is already halfway into GC's LTD
PS3 didn't even hit a million LTD yet...
I don't even think FF13/MGS4 can pull the PS3 out of this hole. Nintendo not only bought Japan, they're beginning to fortify it.
All Sony products went down this week...all Nintendo products went up this week...
DS is 4 mill away from the PS2 LTD
Wii is already halfway into GC's LTD
PS3 didn't even hit a million LTD yet...
I don't even think FF13/MGS4 can pull the PS3 out of this hole. Nintendo not only bought Japan, they're beginning to fortify it.
Cheesemeister
Member
Wyndstryker said:
825,901 > 500,000
AniHawk said:
It's Even worse, because ps3 games cost so much to make.
The only way it can work is if the ps3 sells a shitload of consoles. You can't make trillion dollar games for such a small userbase...
Even if the ps3 catches on eventually, that will do nothing to help the titles that are scheduled to release in the near future. I could see titles being delayed to allow the userbase to grow.... And that will only hurt things more.
It's just an amazing black hole of despair for sony.
What I don't understand about Sony is how they managed to have a bunch of Western sports games coming out during the Easter period while Nintendo is sending in some pretty heavy hitters. Was it arrogance? Stupidity? It just amazes me that they are sending MADDEN to do battle with Mario and BBA.
_Alkaline_
Member
legend166 said:
I'm pretty sure MP4 was the second highest selling game in Japan for Gamecube.
OnWarmerMusic
Member
I think Square has to be making a FFXIII Wii title, if they hadn't originally planned to do so. Unlike Konami with MGS, where a quick 360 port will recoup more of the development costs (due to territories outside of Japan, of course), Square is in a situation where putting more support behind the Wii is just about the only way to go at this point, if they have financial concerns with the PS3 install base. A port of the main game? I'm inclined to say "no", but then I remember the DQ9 thread, and what a gloriously shocking day that was...schuelma said:
Cheese & Vinnk, thanks for the hard work, as always.
Cheesemeister
Member
This Week Sales:
Since 11/27/07:
19 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
13 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Following the trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 9,087. Post Holiday Avg = 4,903.
Wii - Newer trend: 50-70k. Next Gen Avg = 106,016. Post Holiday Avg = 69,179.
PS3 - Newer trend: 14-22k. Next Gen Avg = 43,468. Post Holiday Avg = 22,954.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. A week on week perspective (upper graph) actually shows a CONTINUED slide to oblivion. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.
● PS3. Oh god. Seriously. Not good. Not good at all. 20k per week is one thing...14k is quite another. Nothing short of an immediate and severe price drop in combination with an immediate release of FFXIII could change this at this point. This is bad. 10-23k for the next 6 weeks, with a possible +5-10k bump for the holidays.
● Definite trend for the Wii - mid 50's to mid 70's. The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments, and it appears that units are being held back for a possible holiday-week blitz. 55-75k for the next several weeks, with a possible +15-30k bump for the holidays. 100k week would not be out of the question.
Expectations for 04/09-04/15
360 - 3k*
Wii - 58k << overestimated last week by 14k.
PS3 - 16k*
* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share Week-to-Week
Significant Notes:
● The Wii has had a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 for 6 weeks. (currently 1,188,400 lead)
● The PS3 just had its worst week ever at 14.5k units (previous worst 18.7k).
● The Wii sold 3.62x the PS3 this week, and has 2.44x LTD.
● The Wii JUST BROKE 2 MILLION UNITS (in 19 weeks).
● The PS3 is at least two months from breaking 1 million. Possibly 3.
● The PS3 has never. once. outsold. the Wii.
If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
● The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead by September. Seriously.
● The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by March 2008.
Additional thoughts
1. This was the slowest console week in Japan this year. (70k units total)
2. If you're developing for the PS3, you're going multi-platform. If not, Sony is paying you the difference.
3. I have officially moved up my "the PS3 has until this date to figure-it-the-****-out" to January 2008. And it won't.
4. Nintendo just won next-gen. Seriously. Reread this statement and go melt down your N64 and your GC for the failures that they really were.
5. The PS3 is THIS close ] [ to 360-levels of Japanese irrelevance. Is that sinking in, boys?
Since 11/27/07:
19 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
13 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Following the trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 9,087. Post Holiday Avg = 4,903.
Wii - Newer trend: 50-70k. Next Gen Avg = 106,016. Post Holiday Avg = 69,179.
PS3 - Newer trend: 14-22k. Next Gen Avg = 43,468. Post Holiday Avg = 22,954.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. A week on week perspective (upper graph) actually shows a CONTINUED slide to oblivion. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.
● PS3. Oh god. Seriously. Not good. Not good at all. 20k per week is one thing...14k is quite another. Nothing short of an immediate and severe price drop in combination with an immediate release of FFXIII could change this at this point. This is bad. 10-23k for the next 6 weeks, with a possible +5-10k bump for the holidays.
● Definite trend for the Wii - mid 50's to mid 70's. The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments, and it appears that units are being held back for a possible holiday-week blitz. 55-75k for the next several weeks, with a possible +15-30k bump for the holidays. 100k week would not be out of the question.
Expectations for 04/09-04/15
360 - 3k*
Wii - 58k << overestimated last week by 14k.
PS3 - 16k*
* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!
This Week's Market Share:
Market Share Week-to-Week
Code:
Date____ 360 Wii PS3
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
01/22-01/28: 13% 60% 26%
01/29-02/04: 13% 61% 26%
02/05-02/11: 13% 61% 26%
02/12-02/18: 13% 62% 26%
02/19-02/25: 12% 62% 25%
03/26-03/04: 12% 62% 26%
03/05-03/11: 12% 62% 26%
03/12-03/18: 11% 62% 26%
03/19-03/25: 11% 63% 26%
03/26-04/01: 11% 63% 26%
04/02-04/08: 11% 63% 26%Significant Notes:
● The Wii has had a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 for 6 weeks. (currently 1,188,400 lead)
● The PS3 just had its worst week ever at 14.5k units (previous worst 18.7k).
● The Wii sold 3.62x the PS3 this week, and has 2.44x LTD.
● The Wii JUST BROKE 2 MILLION UNITS (in 19 weeks).
● The PS3 is at least two months from breaking 1 million. Possibly 3.
● The PS3 has never. once. outsold. the Wii.
If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
● The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead by September. Seriously.
● The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by March 2008.
Additional thoughts
1. This was the slowest console week in Japan this year. (70k units total)
2. If you're developing for the PS3, you're going multi-platform. If not, Sony is paying you the difference.
3. I have officially moved up my "the PS3 has until this date to figure-it-the-****-out" to January 2008. And it won't.
4. Nintendo just won next-gen. Seriously. Reread this statement and go melt down your N64 and your GC for the failures that they really were.
5. The PS3 is THIS close ] [ to 360-levels of Japanese irrelevance. Is that sinking in, boys?
_Alkaline_
Member
Thanks heaps once again Cheese.
Cheesemeister
Member
Alkaliine said:
Don't thank me.
_Alkaline_
Member
Cheesemeister said:
Thanks Panther.
Xisiqomelir
Member
Yay Panthernalysis!
Now for the Stupid Argument poster.
Now for the Stupid Argument poster.
Agent Icebeezy
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Grecco said:
I doubt this outsells the Gundam games
Cheesemeister
Member
Scum said:Oh? That's a shame. I was looking for an excuse to use this...
Maybe I should save it for Vinnk, for when he gets back from behind that curtain... :lol
You can thank me for the SW and HW OPs. :lol
imastalker co.
Banned
i really wanna know what's going on at Namco, Capcom, and Konami when they see numbers like these.
how much resources could have been shifted to Wii development by now?
how much resources could have been shifted to Wii development by now?
Pureauthor
Member
Mar_ said:
Buy PS3. Buy FFXIII.
Complete game. Sell it and system back to store.
So much for 'visually powerful next-gen franchises'.
hydragonwarrior
Member
I think we're jumping the gun here. There's going to be people who like that "immersion" feeling with HD next gen graphics that only PS3 can provide, and those people WILL buy the PS3, just like there were people who bought a Gamecube last gen just to play Nintendo exclusives.
hydragonwarrior said:
The differences in graphics are already there; the top new gen game is Wii Sports where the character lack arms. Seems to me that Japan has already kind of decided.
And re: your GC comparison- well, I'd say if the PS3 ends up like the GC in Japan that does equal a spectacular failure.
Jamesfrom818
Banned
hydragonwarrior said:
I think most of those people bought their PS3s already.
AniHawk said:
Maybe I'm just being selfish. Because I just want Silent Hill 5. I will buy what ever system is the lead platform for this game, even if no other games come out for the system and it's pronounced dead the next day. Whatever happens, these facts remain:
1. I don't want SH5 on the Wii.
2. I can't imagine SH5 being 360 only.
3. I can imagine it being multi platform.
4. PS3 would most certainly be the lead platform.
5. The PS3 version will sell much better than the 360 version in Japan.
While the Silent Hill series isn't a big seller. I feel that my example is similar to many people's feelings on their favourite 'tech boundary' pushing game. And seeing that the 360 in Japan is more than just a dead system. I still find it hard to dismiss PS3 as being the same when it's selling significantly more, and my reasons above requiring a need for such a system to exist. Which as I've already said, is perhaps a selfish need. But one that I think is valid all the same.
mclem said:
Let's do some maths. YTD for DS is over 2M already and not even 4 months has passed. Not even factoring in the December boom, they'll at least get 4M for the next 8 months. So 20M is pretty much a lock.
Now, the real question is, will it pass PS2 LTD this year? At this rate PS2 will be very close to 21M by the end of the year.