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Media Create Sales 4/2 - 4/8
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Juwanna Peezadis
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Those people are a niche group though. The numbers say they are in the vast minority. In fact, they're quickly becoming insignificant. Assuming the PS3 continues on this downward spiral of doom and gloom, pretty soon developers won't be able to afford to bring high budget, 'immersive' HD games to consumers.hydragonwarrior said:
EDIT: The lack of charts thusfar (save for Panther's) is disappointing and shocking.
It's kind of funny to see these threads each week still. Before the DS domination, it'd barely be 4-5 pages of discussion.. but now it's like a weekly anticipation of numbers. We still expect to see the typical Nintendo domination, we might see a few surprises but the discussion never fades off. This week it's PS3 hitting 14K - I think it's affected everyone in this thread, doesn't matter which console you prefer to own.
Rocksteady33
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Mar_ said:
Um, sorry to burst your bubble, but not too many people are willing to fork over $600 for a system to experience one game. Metal Gear? Final Fantasy? Ok, I can see that. But those games are just two that sort of made their debut before the whole game industry shifted. Had Konami or Square known the predicament that the PS3 was in at this point I think they would reevaluate which system they'd develop their multi million dollar projects on. At this point if you have a Japanese based game, that REQUIRES high end graphics, then they have no option to go multiplatform. Hopefully get some sales with the PS3 in Japan and nab quite a bit more on the Xbox 360 in the US/Europe.
Also anyone have a chart that compares the week by week sales of the PS3 and the GameCube?
speedpop said:
You want to know why the threads are long?
The MC thread lifecycle
1) Software numbers released
2) First reactions on top 10/rankings.
-whining about games missing on list
-surprise at 'legs' of some titles
-accusation made about non-games destroying the industry and the poor taste of the Japanese public
-Vinkk posts store surveys
3) The Monorojo effect
-CoolTrick files complaint about a random feature of the thread
-Monorojo wannabes spin data to their liking, berate Nintendo and Japan
4) Early hardware numbers release/ 1st day data for the coming week
-whining about games missing on list
-gloating about Nintendomination
-surprise at first day sales of some titles
-accusation made about non-games destroying the industry and the poor taste of the Japanese public
-CoolTrick still complaining, alludes to banned sales site
5) Hardware numbers released
-Pictures of giant blimps crashing and exploding posted next PS3 sales
-gloating about Nintendomination
-Monorojo wannabes return for a parting shot
-Speedpop wonders about the size of the MC threads
6) The Lull
-Next week's preview numbers discussed
-Random chatter
Mr. Pointy
Member
****. The PS3 just 3DOed/NeoGeoed/Gamecubed itself.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
cvxfreak said:
He forgot about the customary bannings.
Juwanna Peezadis said:
I don't know if you're talking about me or not, but I wasn't planning on posting charts this week since PantherLotus already had his posted by Cheesemeister. However, seeing as how you asked for more charts ...
PS3 with Gundam Musou and PSP with Monster Hunter Portable 2 both had big boosts but have seen nothing but decline since then. This is typical of the losing system in a console war. Contrast that with the DS's weekly increase after Brain Training 1 compared to before Brain Training 1.
_Alkaline_
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Deku said:
I love you.
Stormbringer
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Deku said:
Spot on.
But now the question is, now that we are fully aware that the media-create threads are generally insane, why do we keep coming back ? Personally, I think that the hilarity of some reactions, the particularly interesting analysis and reports from GAFfers, and the glorious spectacle of the complete upheaval of the Japanese game industry are what make up for the confusion. Good times indeed.
Maxwell House
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500k doesn't = 1M.Cheesemeister said:
Mr. Pointy
Member
Wii Sports is next-genererererer than a ****ing holodeck or something.jimbo said:
Segata Sanshiro
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Japan is over. O-V-E-R.
Things could still change elsewhere...maybe...possibly. But Japan has been decided.
Things could still change elsewhere...maybe...possibly. But Japan has been decided.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Sony need to start moneyhatting some devs for big games.donny2112 said:
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I am still waiting for Sonic Rush 2, who ever has sonic rush 2 wins the handheld race.
apotema
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Deku said:
Some random components of the lifecycle
-Someone asking Cheesemeister to add a feature to the original post
-People joking/speculating wih false HW numbers
-People (like me) missing Mono and Tabris
-Wait for XXXXXX (PS3)
-Graphics and analysis from Donny, Cheese and Joshua
-"X out of 10... Well that about wraps it up for Nintendo"
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-People asking for HW hours before time, same applies for first day sales and SW for next week
Cheesemeister
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Maxwell House said:
Why did I read half-million? I must be really, really tired.
Mr. Pointy said:
I wonder what proportion of XIII's development costs Sony would have to be funding by now...
nextgeneration
Member
The big question now is how low can ps3 go and how high wii can go, assuming Nintendo is able to supply ample wii's for the next several weeks. This, all leading into Golden Week, is going to get extremely interesting. With no good ps3 software for the foreseeable future, I can easily see wii outselling ps3 by a 5:1, 6:1, and possibly even higher ratios in the upcoming weeks. It's going to get really ugly for ps3.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
mugwhump said:
LOL, that would be kind of great.
(please visit California)
Cheesemeister
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mugwhump said:
For some absurd reason, writing a Google Maps app that queries whatever available retailer databases for game/system availability sounds really fun... Though I'm sure it's been done already, no?
mugwhump said:
I could document my hunt to get an American Wii. I always thought it would be easy. That there would be plenty by April. I was planning to just walk into a store and buy one. Hell, I still havn't played Zelda: TP because I wanted to play the English version rather than have to crack open my dictionary every few minutes to play the Japanese one. I hope in the 18 days I am in the states I can track one down. Hopefully right away. I really want to play Super Paper Mario.
Juwanna Peezadis
Member
<3 Thanks. I was also talking about JoshuaJ and his many comparison charts. Unless I overlooked his post somewhere. . .donny2112 said:
The last Square property that was designed to be a highly cinematic experience was called Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and it almost sunk the company. I'm sure there are elements among S-E's management and talent that want to make no compromises, take no prisoners, push it out on the most powerful system come hell or high water... And then there's the faction that learned something from the last time the company sunk a fortune into such a risky venture. I can't predict which side will win... but I can say that keeping the bulk of FFXIII properties exclusive to PS3 looks like a Spirits Within caliber miscalculation TO ME.Alkaliine said:
I'm not endorsing the Moku Theory at the moment. I'm behind the relabelling strategy... keep working on the PS3 projects but announce a new Wii game and position it as a central storyline, maybe THE central storyline. But I gotta say if the PS3 continues to break new barriers in the sub-15k region the logic that justifies S-E's largest game ever being released exclusively on the system becomes harder to find.
JoshuaJSlone
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God, I so prefer Media Create and their use of the complex technology known as TEXT.
I'm having trouble being sure whether Famitsu has Wii at 40,793 or 40,798. For that matter, DS could be 632 or 682. I'll have to remember to double check when another one of the sources that tracks these things gets them from the magazine.
Wii comparisons: At 19 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 68.7 weeks (January 3, 2003), where DS was at 17.8 weeks (April 1, 2005), where PS2 was at 17.1 weeks (June 25, 2000), and where PSP was at 48.6 weeks (November 10, 2005).
PS3 comparisons: At 22 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.6 weeks (March 16, 2000), where PSP was at 9.6 weeks (February 10, 2005), where GCN was at 15.2 weeks (December 24, 2001), and where Wii was at 4.0 weeks (December 24, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly PS3/Wii shares are 21.6/78.4 this week, bringing lifetime shares to 29.1/70.9. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this rate, it would catch up in 81.8 weeks (October 31, 2008). If the flip occurred, PS3 and Wii would meet in 31.2 weeks (November 12, 2007).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, they meet up February 19, 2008 at 21.1 million units apiece.
Earlier in the year DS was doing way better than its 2006 numbers, but it's really falling behind weekly. 8 weeks straight below 150K is a new record for DS+DSL. Still, it remains something like 600K ahead of last year, so it could be behind last year's weekly numbers by 10K every week and still set a new record.
I rarely pull these out since few comment on them, but here again is Wii vs GCNSum. GCNSum being all of GCN's years summed together*, so we can see that even when Wii has seemed to have slower weeks, it's doing better than GCN did in the same week in 2002/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007 combined. If it catches up before week 52, that means it outsold GCN's total within year 1.
*To make a full one year picture for GCN, I just assumed a few hundred per week throughout 2007. Also note Famitsu numbers are used, so GCN's end total is a couple hundred K below Media Create's lifetime number.
I'm having trouble being sure whether Famitsu has Wii at 40,793 or 40,798. For that matter, DS could be 632 or 682. I'll have to remember to double check when another one of the sources that tracks these things gets them from the magazine.
There's no need to fear! JoshuaJ and his many comparison charts are here!Juwanna Peezadis said:
Wii comparisons: At 19 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 68.7 weeks (January 3, 2003), where DS was at 17.8 weeks (April 1, 2005), where PS2 was at 17.1 weeks (June 25, 2000), and where PSP was at 48.6 weeks (November 10, 2005).
PS3 comparisons: At 22 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.6 weeks (March 16, 2000), where PSP was at 9.6 weeks (February 10, 2005), where GCN was at 15.2 weeks (December 24, 2001), and where Wii was at 4.0 weeks (December 24, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly PS3/Wii shares are 21.6/78.4 this week, bringing lifetime shares to 29.1/70.9. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this rate, it would catch up in 81.8 weeks (October 31, 2008). If the flip occurred, PS3 and Wii would meet in 31.2 weeks (November 12, 2007).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, they meet up February 19, 2008 at 21.1 million units apiece.
Earlier in the year DS was doing way better than its 2006 numbers, but it's really falling behind weekly. 8 weeks straight below 150K is a new record for DS+DSL. Still, it remains something like 600K ahead of last year, so it could be behind last year's weekly numbers by 10K every week and still set a new record.
I rarely pull these out since few comment on them, but here again is Wii vs GCNSum. GCNSum being all of GCN's years summed together*, so we can see that even when Wii has seemed to have slower weeks, it's doing better than GCN did in the same week in 2002/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007 combined. If it catches up before week 52, that means it outsold GCN's total within year 1.
*To make a full one year picture for GCN, I just assumed a few hundred per week throughout 2007. Also note Famitsu numbers are used, so GCN's end total is a couple hundred K below Media Create's lifetime number.
To reach only 20 million would mean quarters 2, 3, and 4 would have to be much lower than quarter 1. 23 million by the end of the year, at least.castle007 said:
Zerostatic
Banned
So you're saying that there never has been a highly cinematic experience in a Final Fantasy game before this one? I mean because the Wii is considerably more powerful then a PS1 or a PS2 so matching and exceeding the Cinematic Qualities of Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12 are well within the Wii's technical abilities.Alkaliine said:
nextgeneration
Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Wow, so ps3 is trailing gc by a pretty significant margin. Not good at all.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
JoshuaJSlone said:God, I so prefer Media Create and their use of the complex technology known as TEXT.
I'm having trouble being sure whether Famitsu has Wii at 40,793 or 40,798. For that matter, DS could be 632 or 682. I'll have to remember to double check when another one of the sources that tracks these things gets them from the magazine.
There's no need to fear! JoshuaJ and his many comparison charts are here!
Wii comparisons: At 19 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 68.7 weeks (January 3, 2003), where DS was at 17.8 weeks (April 1, 2005), where PS2 was at 17.1 weeks (June 25, 2000), and where PSP was at 48.6 weeks (November 10, 2005).
PS3 comparisons: At 22 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.6 weeks (March 16, 2000), where PSP was at 9.6 weeks (February 10, 2005), where GCN was at 15.2 weeks (December 24, 2001), and where Wii was at 4.0 weeks (December 24, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly PS3/Wii shares are 21.6/78.4 this week, bringing lifetime shares to 29.1/70.9. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this rate, it would catch up in 81.8 weeks (October 31, 2008). If the flip occurred, PS3 and Wii would meet in 31.2 weeks (November 12, 2007).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, they meet up February 19, 2008 at 21.1 million units apiece.
Earlier in the year DS was doing way better than its 2006 numbers, but it's really falling behind weekly. 8 weeks straight below 150K is a new record for DS+DSL. Still, it remains something like 600K ahead of last year, so it could be behind last year's weekly numbers by 10K every week and still set a new record.
I rarely pull these out since few comment on them, but here again is Wii vs GCNSum. GCNSum being all of GCN's years summed together*, so we can see that even when Wii has seemed to have slower weeks, it's doing better than GCN did in the same week in 2002/2003/2004/2005/2006/2007 combined. If it catches up before week 52, that means it outsold GCN's total within year 1.
*To make a full one year picture for GCN, I just assumed a few hundred per week throughout 2007. Also note Famitsu numbers are used, so GCN's end total is a couple hundred K below Media Create's lifetime number.
To reach only 20 million would mean quarters 2, 3, and 4 would have to be much lower than quarter 1. 23 million by the end of the year, at least.
<3
Your comparisons are my favorite part of these threads. Keep up the good work, man.
nextgeneration
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Forgotten Ancient said:
Ditto for me and props to Cheesemeister as well.
Pureauthor
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apotema said:
T_T
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Mar_ said:
Showing all of these trends is why I :lol @ all of these people saying wait for ___________ game. I honestly believe this is a done deal. Remember that they shipped 1 million to Japan at the beginning of January and they are nowhere near close to selling that amount.
Juwanna Peezadis
Member
<3 I can sleep peacefully tonight knowing that Nintendomination is in full swing and PS3 am bomba now.JoshuaJSlone said:
