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Media Create Sales: Dec 6-13, 2009
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Chuck Norris
Banned
So was Dragon Quest, but the norm is not always the rule as we learned with DQIX.squall211 said:
I'm just saying I wouldn't be shocked to see a little bit less of an extreme curve on FFXIII due to the nature of it's place on PS3.
Chuck Norris said:
Actually that's the case. But things could be a bit different this time because week 2 and week 3 for the game are nothing less than the two biggest sales week of the year.
So the game could spur demand for the console which still hasn't a huge installed base and sell itself to new buyers. If it creates momentum it could also get bigger legs like FFVII.
In any case SE will definetly ship more than 2m units and they will be happy as that was their target/dream.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Nice sales for FFXIII. If it's got legs, that would be something.
Well, to be fair, it's the most interesting battle we have left.schuelma said:
The next closest battle we have is PSP vs. DS, and it's not exactly a mystery how that one will end.
I think they may be preparing for the DS2, even if it ultimately doesn't launch next year. We have a lot of rumors about it coming from quite reputable sources honestly, and the leaks are from the graphics vendor end, which consists of companies that are known to historically have every product they make leak out ahead of time, sometimes even over a year in advance. And assuming those hardware specifications are true, DS2 games would probably take 2-4 times the number of people DS games do, which could really be straining Nintendo's resources as a whole.schuelma said:
I'm almost certain they will have some kind HD Wii ready this year. Maybe with Wii Speak built into the sensor bar, an ethernet port and possible camera. Miyamoto already hinted at it ages ago, and now is the perfect time. Of course, since that's the logical approach, they won't do it.schuelma said:
At the very least:
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Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yes, but Dragon Quest IX was designed to combat the typical front-loaded nature of the series, with a robust multiplayer mode, considerable post-game downloadable content, and special "events".Chuck Norris said:
FFXIII by all accounts certainly has no more replay value than the typical FF game and doesn't seem to be considerably lengthier than average either.
It could leg out better, I guess. Maybe all those things DQIX does aren't the reason for its better legs. Maybe Japanese people have changed. But I think the smart money would be on this being about 75% of FFXIII's final total.
I think the only thing FFXIII has going for it, as far as being less front-loaded, is a starved RPG fans crowd on the PS3, which helped WKC and ToV achieving impressive sales.
Edit: I should have said "may have" because many of those who bought those two games were probably the FF fans waiting for FFXIII.
Edit: I should have said "may have" because many of those who bought those two games were probably the FF fans waiting for FFXIII.
BishopLamont
Banned
I bet they do. Not Wii 2, but definitely something is in store. They'd be stupid not to after what revisions have done for the DS and PS3.gerg said:
I think that Nintendo´s lineup-problems are Japan-exclusive, though. (Just saying, maybe everyone already had that in their mind).
In the USA and Europe, a lot of great games are seeing their releases that had already been released in Japan. And Two big games, Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid, are just like 2009 or 2008, so no difference here.
So, in terms of Japan, what´s missing is a Wii_-style game. If fleshed out, i´d love to see a home console-Nintendogs. YEAH HERE I SAID IT!
In the USA and Europe, a lot of great games are seeing their releases that had already been released in Japan. And Two big games, Mario Galaxy 2 and Metroid, are just like 2009 or 2008, so no difference here.
So, in terms of Japan, what´s missing is a Wii_-style game. If fleshed out, i´d love to see a home console-Nintendogs. YEAH HERE I SAID IT!
This one is interesting, it's the opposite argument people have when talking about Graces' performance. :]Road said:
On PS3 - Game sells well, due to it being the only game in that genre on the platform, fans are starved.
On Wii - Game sells badly, due to the only one in that genre on the platform, devs didn't build a fanbase.
offshore said:
Yeah I think that is true but only partially. Do you believe that if the game was a 360 exclusive in Japan it would have sold a million consoles there?^_^'' I have my doubts.
I mean, ok it's an hardware seller but reasonably with the installed base and the global success of the consoles it's running on.
If the Slim (and relative price cut) wasn't released, right now there would be a different scenario, probably FW sales would be around 900k-1m.
farnham said:
Yeah. Like I said, I'm probably wrong, but there really isn't much of anything 1st or 3rd party that we know about. There are a lot of Nintendo franchises that should be either coming to Wii for the first time or getting followups (Mario Party, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario) that we haven't heard anything about.
Chuck Norris
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Maybe you're right but I'd argue PS2 and PS3 are different things as well in regards to situation and potential for the series to be highlighted. FFXIII for PS3 is closer to FFVII's importance for PS1 than any of the PS2 titles in my opinion. Not to suggest this is a sole reason it could have longer legs, but I could imagine Sony attempting to keep it fresh in the minds of gamers. You'd hope.Chris1964 said:
Plus the market and the genre on consoles is far less saturated on PS3. That may also help.
Very true, and a great point.Segata Sanshiro said:
Hasn't FFXIII DLC and/or connectivity with other XIII titles been hinted at strongly however?
devilhawk said:
　　 　　（First Day）　　First Week　 2nd　　3nd　　　 LTD 　 FW/LTD　
FF7　　　　(***.*)　 2,034,879 　329,740 　167,865 　3,277,766 　62.08%
FF8　　　　(***.*)　 2,504,044 　270,993 　205,779 　3,501,588 　71.51%
FF9　　　　(***.*)　 1,954,421 　328,404 　123,827 　2,707,301 　72.19%
FF10.　　　(145.6)　 1,749,737 　233,429 　*85,703 　2,325,215 　77.19%
FF10-2　　(120.0)　 1,472,914 　181,798 　*80,295 　1,960,937 　 75.11%
FF12.　　　(144.1)　 1,840,397 　217,438 　*91,078 　2,322,541 　79.24%
FF13.　　　(~100)　 1,516,532
BishopLamont
Banned
I know I am, but it'll happen.gerg said:
If we are getting a revision, we'll probably start hearing more rumors on the way up to E3, especially if it's something larger than a form factor change.
Game companies are getting leakier by the year. Nintendo may be one of the least leaky, but they're still being effected by this.
Game companies are getting leakier by the year. Nintendo may be one of the least leaky, but they're still being effected by this.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Maybe you're rightChris1964 said:
Does the used market effect the handheld market much or is the price difference small?
Sohter.Nura
Member
If Nintendo does a Wii revision next year, they'll have to do what Sony did to the PSP and moneyhat companies to put some big time software behind it :b
Chris1964 said:
Maybe this time it's different, maybe this time they'll look at the game, and tears will well up in their eyes as they think of the amazing memories they have of buying their first HD console and the brilliant experience S-E has delivered, and they just can't bear to sell it.
Not being serious, just in case people are dense!
BishopLamont
Banned
M+ got leaked like hours before E3 IRRC, but yeah we'll know of a console revision pretty early on if it does happens.Nirolak said:
BishopLamont
Banned
Eh? What factors are they?gerg said:
I see the PS3 selling well at least till late April with the help of it's strong game lineup for the first 4 months with GT5 coming out in March 31. Not sure what they have for summer but I'm sure they'll be several new games announced by then. Also forgot one more game that will be coming out in 2010 on the PS3 and this is a big face palm not only for myself but for others not mentioning it:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Not even remotely, AFAIK.Chuck Norris said:
The used market affects any game prone to being sold back. Japan doesn't have game rentals so a lot of people will buy games with full intentions of finishing them asap and selling them back, only losing about 1000-2000 yen in the process. As for prices, it varies by demand. Something like FF or DQ will sell only slightly lower than the cost of a new copy, particularly near to launch, while games that have been out for a while will often be significantly cheaper used. This goes for handheld games just as well as console games.
Yeah, why would anyone talk about Toriko in a Media Create thread? It's not going to set anything on fire or move any hardware. It'll probably be of interest when it's actually coming out in that week, since in general sales in Japan are so shit these days any title with a chance of selling 100-200k is of interest, but as far as the horizon goes, who gives a fuck! :lol