Kurosaki Ichigo said:More numbres from 2ch...from MC chart!
11 DS New Super Mario Brothers 27000 4030000 98
15 DS Tea Dog's Room DS 2 19000 19000 49
16 DS Mario Kart DS 19000 2016000 98
19 DS Kanji Brain Test 2M 16000 262000 89
22 DS IQ Supply 15000 103000 89
26 Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 14000 356000 85
35 DS DS Yama Method Math Drills 9000 112000 89
36 DS Heisei Education Committee DS 8800 87000 90
40 Wii Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 8000 86000 64
43 DS Final Fantasy III 6500 970000 89
46 DS Mysterious Dungeon: Fuurai no Shiren DS 5100 152000 83
48 PSP World Soccer Winning Eleven 10: Ubiquitous Evolution 5100 98000 65
68 Wii Elebits 3500 38000 75
84 PS3 Armored Core 4 2500 69000 74
90 DS ☆? 2300 95000 94
92 Wii BREAD? 2200 46000 66
94 DS ATSU? 2200 42000 83
Zelda, Armored Core 4, WE10...I hope you like it
That's not the best-selling PS3 game this week, is it? >_<Kurosaki Ichigo said:84 PS3 Armored Core 4 2500 69000 74
Haunted_One said:That's not the best-selling PS3 game this week, is it? >_<
Haunted_One said:That's not the best-selling PS3 game this week, is it? >_<
DSL 127,647
Wii 86,395
PSP 37,032
PS3 21,105
PS2 20,169
Xbox360 7,041
GBM 1,864
GBASP 1,498
GC 554
DS 123
GBA 94
Do you think they will ship less Wii consoles than this week?I believe all 3 consoles will drop next week.
Deku said:
Kurosaki Ichigo said:Btw, I hate you all ; ; no one gave me Shining Force Neo numbers to compare to EXA.
Amir0x said:Probably with Wii HD, they'll JUST be getting to 360 level visuals. Presumably Xbox 720 and PS4 will go beyond that, unless they stupidly interpret that the message is not "the price sucks" but high end gaming that is the problem.
Heh.Bungalow Bob said:There´s no way that Nintendo´s next console will only be as powerful as 360. It´ll presumably come out in 2011 - and by then a $250 system (which will almost certainly be the US launch price) will be significantly more powerful than a 360. Expect all games in 1080p and 60 fps.
aloof said:I feel that the Wii simply doesn't have enough compelling software in the pipeline to keep selling at this rate. Once people realize this fact and get over the novelty aspect of Wii, they will return to Sony and Playstation. PS3 has already sold fairly well in Japan despite the price and lack of a single good title geared for that region.
aloof said:Who's going to want to play these types of games and non-games that we see on Wii a year or two down the line when games like MGS4, FF13, Killzone, Naughty Dog's game, WKS, DMC4, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword, Gran Turismo 5 and so on, are released?
Bungalow Bob said:There´s no way that Nintendo´s next console will only be as powerful as 360. It´ll presumably come out in 2011 - and by then a $250 system (which will almost certainly be the US launch price) will be significantly more powerful than a 360. Expect all games in 1080p and 60 fps.
PantherLotus said:What about MGS4? That should do pretty well. And although the 360 will never reach one million units in Japan, sure that counts as "true next gen" gameplay?
Krowley said:The problem with that line of thinking is that right now a 250 dollar system is significantly more powerfull than wii... Nintendo could have released a much beefier system than the wii, including the controler with the same price or even less... Especially if they were willing to sell at a small loss for a little while.
Apparently by certain measures, the 360 is 10 or 15 times more powerful than wii and it's only about double the price... I assume nintendo could have done better.
2 million for Mario Kart! FFIII will pass a million soon.Kurosaki Ichigo said:16 DS Mario Kart DS 19000 2016000 98
43 DS Final Fantasy III 6500 970000 89
Krowley said:The problem with that line of thinking is that right now a 250 dollar system is significantly more powerfull than wii... Nintendo could have released a much beefier system than the wii, including the controler with the same price or even less... Especially if they were willing to sell at a small loss for a little while.
Apparently by certain measures, the 360 is 10 or 15 times more powerful than wii and it's only about double the price... I assume nintendo could have done better.
Amir0x said:$50 is a lot of money. If you factor in the new burgeoning technology not included with previous gens, such as motion sensing or something, and additional functionality a net increase of $50 over inflation is not bad at all. If you always aim at the lowest common denominator with gaming, we'll go no where ever. So you have to have a good middle ground. PS3 is not that good middle ground. Neither is Wii.
Bungalow Bob said:It´s almost a certainty that the 360 will sell over one million.
I´ll say it again - compare the 360´s marketshare right now to the XBOX´s marketshare when it was at 300 000.
To only compare the 360´s first year to the XBOX´s first year is foolish, because it doesn´t take into account that the 360 launched early, while the original launched late (relative to the competition).
DeaconKnowledge said:What does marketshare have to do with the 360 trending below the original XBOX? Not to mention the PS2 was nice and entrenched before the XBOX 1 ever got to Japan.
Bungalow Bob said:Next gen just started in Japan. That´s the other thing you have to take into account. The point is that the 360 will continue selling for many more years than the original XBOX.
Additionally, since worldwide the 360 will do much better than the XBOX did, it will get many more ports and exclusives that interest the Japanese. Therefore it will sell much better than the original in its second, third, forth, fifth and sixth years (both worldwide and in Japan).
Potential console million sellers for 2007 in Japan imo...farnham said:so from the games you listed only MGS4 looks like a potential million seller (ill add one more gundam mousou) in Japan.. if it does PS2 numbers which i doubt.. not even one game will hit 3 million units..
doesnt look that great if you consider how many DS games got over 1 million copies last year
DeaconKnowledge said:Next Gen just starting is the reason that pointing to marketshare at all is ridiculous. Once the competitors take off the 360 will more than likely be marginalized.
Second, we were originally talking about Japan, so what does the rest of the world have to do with it?
Bungalow Bob said:There´s no way that Nintendo´s next console will only be as powerful as 360. It´ll presumably come out in 2011 - and by then a $250 system (which will almost certainly be the US launch price) will be significantly more powerful than a 360. Expect all games in 1080p and 60 fps.
jarrod said:...and take EM out of the PS3 list (it won't even break 50k imo).
'Bread?'? What on earth is that?Meier said:92 Wii BREAD? 220 / 4,600
marvelharvey said:'Bread?'? What on earth is that?
Mithos Yggdrasill said:You expect too much. 720p is sure, but 1080p....I don't know.
But I wanted to be a baker! ;_;cvxfreak said:I think it's the 2ch-style shortening of ???.
Swing Golf Panya :lol
Bungalow Bob said:This might come as a shock to you, so please be sure you´re seated before continueing....
There are Japanese games that are released outside of Japan, and apeal to both westerners and the Japanese.
And not only that! Some western games actually get released in Japan and do well!
Well now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
I dunno, I think Gundam Musou's going to be huge... at least comparably. I'd say 200-300k is probably worst case (total-B0mba!) scenario for it.meltpotato said:if Armored Core has only done 69k, i'd say that is almost a foregone conclusion. i seriously don't think gundam musou is going to be bigger than 80-100k but i may be giving the japanese too much credit
DeaconKnowledge said:You do know that the 360 has been out for a year, right?
Do me a favour, and point me in the direction of this magical game that will get Japan to embrace the 360 enough to push it over a million lifetime, when the biggest game for it to date couldn't even push 100,000 units?
Or,
show me the developer that will continue to risk wasting money on the 360 in Japan when there are two other systems that are sure to have most japanese-centric titles
Or,
Show me how the 360 will surpass the original XBOX when it couldn't do it when it had the market to itself unopposed for one year?
Guaranteed to hit a million? C'mon..
(Thinking about it, why am I even bothering to argue this? 1 million units lifetime, who cares?)
marvelharvey said:But I wanted to be a baker! ;_;
DeaconKnowledge said:Do me a favour, and point me in the direction of this magical game that will get Japan to embrace the 360 enough to push it over a million lifetime, when the biggest game for it to date couldn't even push 100,000 units?
i think super paper mario has a good chance of becoming a huge seller in japan, especially if nintendo adds super mario bros to the title.jarrod said:Potential console million sellers for 2007 in Japan imo...
PlayStation 3
-Gundam Musou (Bandai Namco/Omega Force)
-Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami'Kojima Productions)
-Minna no Golf 5 (SCEI/Clap Hanz)
-Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom)
Wii
-Dragon Quest Sword: Kamen no Joou to Kagami no Tou (Square Enix/Armor project/Genius Sonority/8ing)
-Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (Square Enix)
-Mario Party 8 (Nintendo/Hudson)
-Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
-Super Smash Bros. X (Nintendo/Sora/HAL Laboratory)
-Wii Music (Nintendo)
-Yawaraka Atama Juku (Nintendo)
Wii (from 2006)
-Hajimete no Wii (Nintendo)
-Wii Sports (Nintendo)
...the PS3 games really depend on how quick it can get userbase up though... those games could all quite easily top out around 500-800k depending on how the platform performs.
Bungalow Bob said:Next gen just started in Japan. That´s the other thing you have to take into account. The point is that the 360 will continue selling for many more years than the original XBOX.
Additionally, since worldwide the 360 will do much better than the XBOX did, it will get many more ports and exclusives that interest the Japanese. Therefore it will sell much better than the original in its second, third, forth, fifth and sixth years (both worldwide and in Japan).
cvxfreak said:Not that I disagree with your argument but BD surpassed 100K a long time ago.
Bungalow Bob said::lol
Because you are foolish.
dyls said:At this point those are two pretty big assumptions.
Bungalow Bob said:Nintendo chose to release a small, energy efficient system. If they had chosen to release an XBOX-sized system, they could have released something more powerful at the same price (while still not taking a loss).
What I´m saying is that in 5 years a Wii-sized $250 system will be more powerful than a 360.
The only logical reason to expect the Wii´s successor to be just slightly more powerful than the Wii is if you expect the successor to be much smaller than the Wii.
Mmm, yes thats what they posted but it could be Piñata. The atsumare I remembered was Powerprokun Koushien but thats an old title.cvxfreak said:Atsumare/Viva Pinata
EDIT: Are you sure it's a DS game Kurosaki?
I guess there's an outside chance, but I don't think the game will be able to overcome it's "secondary Mario" perception, especially with Galaxy coming this year as well. Probably a solid 500k+ seller though.ziran said:i think super paper mario has a good chance of becoming a huge seller in japan, especially if nintendo adds super mario bros to the title.
DeaconKnowledge said:If i'm foolish for arguing it, what does that make you for thinking the exact opposite?