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Media Create Sales: Jul 27-Aug 2, 2009

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Segata Sanshiro

Member
Wow, Tomodachi and WSR actually went up. Tomodachi is a verifiable hit.

DQ ended up a little lower than I expected, though. Still on excellent pace to be the #1 DQ but it's going to have to really kick if it wants to make it past 4 million.
 
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duckroll

Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Wow, Tomodachi and WSR actually went up. Tomodachi is a verifiable hit.

DQ ended up a little lower than I expected, though. Still on excellent pace to be the #1 DQ but it's going to have to really kick if it wants to make it past 4 million.
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Wada is promising his shareholders 5 million. :lol
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
donny2112 said:
I don't think I'm going to be able to post the MC thread this week. Gpara hasn't updated, Inside-Games has a text block instead of the Top 30 chart ( :( ), and I'm unavailable probably until Friday night, as usual. Famitsu data is up if someone wants to start a thread with that until the MC data comes out, though.

Looking forward to Cheesemeister's parser making a return someday. :)

DSL 6700
DSi 65000
PSP 34000
Wii 46000
PS3 6300
PS2 6200
360 3500


MC has MH3 at 137K at #2.
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What happened to the PS3? o_O

Are the Slim rumors killing it or have people just stopped wanting it?
 
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KuwabaraTheMan

Banned
Pureauthor said:
Well, FF3DS made up approx. 500K at the crawl after it's initial burst to break 1 million. If DQIX has slightly better legs...
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That would need to be a little more than 'slightly', but it's certainly possible. If it can get a holiday boost, than it may be able to break 5 million.
 
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duckroll

Member
Pureauthor said:
Well, FF3DS made up approx. 500K at the crawl after it's initial burst to break 1 million. If DQIX has slightly better legs...
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I totally believe that FF3DS's "legs" are lies. The game was supply constrained at release, so it couldn't have been as front loaded as usual FF games because people simply couldn't buy it. As restocks trickled in, people waiting for it to restock bought those up, etc. That's quite different from a situation here where the game is in healthy supply.
 
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Pureauthor

Member
KuwabaraTheMan said:
That would need to be a little more than 'slightly', but it's certainly possible. If it can get a holiday boost, than it may be able to break 5 million.
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Eh, I was talking about the 4 million. I really don't think 5 million is possible - I'd be more than willing to be proven wrong, though.

I totally believe that FF3DS's "legs" are lies. The game was supply constrained at release, so it couldn't have been as front loaded as usual FF games because people simply couldn't buy it. As restocks trickled in, people waiting for it to restock bought those up, etc. That's quite different from a situation here where the game is in healthy supply.
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Haven't you talked before in these very threads that 'supply constrained at release' is a very bad idea for Japanese games because that means the gamers would just snap up the used games instead of buying the restocks?
 
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cvxfreak

Member
duckroll said:
I totally believe that FF3DS's "legs" are lies. The game was supply constrained at release, so it couldn't have been as front loaded as usual FF games because people simply couldn't buy it. As restocks trickled in, people waiting for it to restock bought those up, etc. That's quite different from a situation here where the game is in healthy supply.
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It was on the charts in December 2006 though (IIRC). That's gotta be worth something.
 
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duckroll

Member
Pureauthor said:
Haven't you talked before in these very threads that 'supply constrained at release' is a very bad idea for Japanese games because that means the gamers would just snap up the used games instead of buying the restocks?
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Yes, it's a bad idea. But when you're a brand as strong as FF, you're usually better off in the end. Still, no one should INTENTIONALLY constrain supply of a game, that's a retarded idea and it's not what I am suggesting happened. I'm simply saying the game continued to sell over a period of time because early on it was out of stock in many places.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
MotherFan said:
Prolly both. It has been under 10k for a while, but this here is a big drop.
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Well, look at the recent releases. Do you see any pressing reasons to pick one up?

The longer they go without a price drop, hardware revision, or compelling new software, the worse it's going to get. People are expecting the first, are aware of the second, and therefore are more than willing to wait for the third when they might otherwise buy for "potential".
 
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Man God

Non-Canon Member
duckroll said:
DQ games don't get International releases though.
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Exactly!

I keep having this thought that the "Western Push" on DQ IX might be adding rudimentary online play, which might warrant a same generation re-release.

But probably not.
 
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MotherFan

Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Well, look at the recent releases. Do you see any pressing reasons to pick one up?

The longer they go without a price drop, hardware revision, or compelling new software, the worse it's going to get. People are expecting the first, are aware of the second, and therefore are more than willing to wait for the third when they might otherwise buy for "potential".
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I don't see any reason to pick it up especially with the rumors. That's why I said it was both. Even with a price cut and FFXIII the console is not going to recover though.


Edit: Why do they call the FF International versions by that name? They never leave Japan
 
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Pureauthor

Member
duckroll said:
Yes, it's a bad idea. But when you're a brand as strong as FF, you're usually better off in the end. Still, no one should INTENTIONALLY constrain supply of a game, that's a retarded idea and it's not what I am suggesting happened. I'm simply saying the game continued to sell over a period of time because early on it was out of stock in many places.
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Doesn't that suggest that FF3DS did indeed have good legs? Because if it was supply constrained at launch and led some people to buy the used copies instead of original ones and it still broke a million?
 
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Tiktaalik

Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
For us, I'm sure it would be. It's the video game equivalent of My Big Fat Greek Wedding in its "not-aimed-at-us"-osity.
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Yeah I was secretly hoping it would be a stealth awesome game worth importing or looking forward too.
 
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Jonnyram

Member
DQIX needs to grow some crazy legs if it's going to reach 5 million but I haven't ruled it out yet. We still don't know where it will bottom out.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
Regulus Tera said:
So how's the DQIX vs. DQVII faring this week?
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It's almost pulled ahead but it's still behind by a teeny-tiny bit.

Given that the numbers we get are from last week, DQIX should be past DQVIII's total now to become the #2 DQ evar! Most likely it will have pulled ahead of DQVII on next week's Famitsu/MC.
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Jonnyram said:
DQIX needs to grow some crazy legs if it's going to reach 5 million but I haven't ruled it out yet. We still don't know where it will bottom out.
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It's chances have got to be less than MH3 hitting 1 Million.

If SE wants to hit 5 Million, they'll need to take a page from Nintendo and Capcom, who know how to keep long shelf lives for some of their titles.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Famitsu data:
Code: 
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|  |  Dragon Quest VII | Dragon Quest VIII |  Dragon Quest IX  |       difference     |
|--|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|----------|-----------|
| #|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |DQIX-DQVII|DQIX-DQVIII|
|--|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|----------|-----------|
| 1|1.862.065|1.862.065|2.236.881|2.236.881|2.343.440|2.343.440|   481.375|    106.559|
| 2|1.072.286|2.934.351|  559.524|2.796.405|  602.856|2.946.296|    11.945|    149.891|
| 3|  329.317|3.263.668|  200.033|2.996.438|  271.206|3.217.502|   -46.166|    221.064|
| 4|  154.797|3.418.465|  116.731|3.113.169|  172.728|3.390.230|   -28.235|    277.061|
| 5|   83.918|3.502.383|  118.119|3.231.288|  107.000|3.497.000|    -5.383|    265.712|
| 6|   64.351|3.566.734|   95.879|3.327.167|         |         |          |           |
| 7|   43.717|3.610.451|   56.945|3.384.112|         |         |          |           |
| 8|   33.852|3.644.302|   22.175|3.406.287|         |         |          |           |
| 9|   21.429|3.665.731|   11.611|3.417.898|         |         |          |           |
|10|   18.191|3.683.923|   11.293|3.429.191|         |         |          |           |
|11|   18.360|3.702.283|    9.892|3.439.083|         |         |          |           |
|12|   13.941|3.716.224|    9.389|3.448.472|         |         |          |           |
|13|   10.541|3.726.765|    7.403|3.455.875|         |         |          |           |
|14|    8.841|3.735.606|    6.698|3.462.573|         |         |          |           |
|15|    9.147|3.744.754|    6.490|3.469.063|         |         |          |           |
|16|    8.903|3.753.657|    5.103|3.474.166|         |         |          |           |
|17|        -|        -|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|18|        -|        -|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|19|   10.769|3.784.682|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|20|   15.632|3.800.315|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|21|    5.634|3.805.949|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|22|    5.643|3.811.591|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|23|    6.190|3.817.781|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|24|    4.184|3.821.965|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|25|    4.406|3.826.371|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|26|    5.227|3.831.598|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|27|    3.848|3.835.446|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|28|    5.083|3.840.529|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|29|    4.859|3.845.388|        -|        -|         |         |          |           |
|--|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|----------|-----------|
| -|   LTD   |3.893.293|   LTD   |3.538.860|   LTD   |3.497.000|  -396.293|    -41.860|
| -|shipments|4.150.000|shipments|3.700.000|shipments|         |          |           |
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Next week DQ IX > DQ VIII. I think someone should start a new thread with the leaked famitsu data and add the m-create data to the OP when they become available.
 
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Jonnyram

Member
Busaiku said:
Wii Sports Resort went up from last week.
Looks like Monster Hunter fans are going for other titles too.
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I am almost certain that is the sole reason WSR sales went up this week.
 
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Spiegel

Member
Inside-games has been updated with the numbers

http://www.inside-games.jp/ranking/weekly.php?week=115

01. [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) – 175,000
02. [WII] Monster Hunter Tri (Capcom) – 137,000 / 657,000
03. [NDS] Dragon Quest IX (Square Enix) – 136,000 / 3,517,000
04. [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco) – 133,000
05. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) – 91,000 / 602,000
06. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) – 73,000 / 901,000
07. [PS2] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes (Bandai Namco) – 52,000
08. [WII] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) – 33,000
09. [NDS] Color Changing Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love (Nintendo) – 33,000
10. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2009: Club Championship (Konami) – 33,000

Huge discrepancies between Famitsu and MC with SD Gundam PS2, Tales of Versus and DQIX
 
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Jonnyram

Member
Spiegel said:
Huge discrepancies between Famitsu and MC with SD Gundam PS2, Tales of Versus and DQIX
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Not to mention Magna Carta 2, by the looks of it. Maybe they let the caretaker do it because the researchers are on holiday?
 
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Cosmonaut X

Member
The huge week 1 discrepancy for Tri between the two trackers is interesting as well, especially given that the week 2 numbers are basically the same. Will one side correct over the coming weeks, or are we likely to see that 60k discrepancy persist?

Anyone know of any other big titles like that where there was such a large discrepancy that carried on into the final LTD?
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Okay this is getting a bit ridiculous:

Famitsu: [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) - 196,000
Media-Create: [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) – 175,000

Famitsu: [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco) - 153,000
Media-Create: [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco) – 133,000

Famitsu: [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito (Square Enix) - 107,000
Media-Create: [NDS] Dragon Quest IX (Square Enix) – 136,000

Famitsu: [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 720,000
Media-Create: [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 657,000
 
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oldie-newbie

Member
Nirolak said:
Okay this is getting a bit ridiculous:

Famitsu: [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) - 196,000
Media-Create: [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Wars (Bandai Namco) – 175,000

Famitsu: [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco) - 153,000
Media-Create: [PSP] Tales of VS. (Bandai Namco) – 133,000

Famitsu: [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Hoshizora no Mamoribito (Square Enix) - 107,000
Media-Create: [NDS] Dragon Quest IX (Square Enix) – 136,000

Famitsu: [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 720,000
Media-Create: [WII] Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 657,000
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It depends largely on the statistics methodology used and extrapolations from Famitsu and Media Create.

For example and considering shipments (if the sold games estimations were calculated by percentages) :

- If shipment of MH3 from Capcom was around 1 050 000 according to Famitsu, the 720 000 games sold represent 68,6%.

- If shipment of MH3 from Capcom was around 950 000 according to Media Create, the 657 000 games sold represent 69,2%.

So a difference of 0,6% is excellent for this very large numbers...
 
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Road

Member
I personally can't wait for the "bomba" talk when S-E ships 1.9 million copies of FFXIII and it'll look like it'll only sell 1.8.
 
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schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Road said:
I personally can't wait for the "bomba" talk when S-E ships 1.9 million copies of FFXIII and it'll look like it'll only sell 1.8.
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I think the problem is simply that the initial shipment was just too ambitious, at least with the standalone units. If Capcom had only shipped 800K total I think everyone would be saying how good its selling, etc.
 
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