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Media Create Sales: July 13-19, 2009
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Cosmonaut X
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Nirolak said:
You could perhaps argue that the drop may be due to the impending launch of the black Wii/Monster Hunter 3. If I'd waited for WSR before picking up a Wii and MH3 was launching with a desirable new colour console a few weeks later, I'd be tempted to wait.
Chris1964 said:
I don't see how you can say that for sure. It's not like other S-E rpgs on the DS have had extreme legs (excepting Final Fantasy III years ago). Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days is the latest example of a S-E rpg failing to double its first week. The second week percentage drop for DQIX is almost the same as DQVIII's. Less than a percent better. It has already fallen behind DQVII leg-wise. If it mirrors DQVIII next week as well, then I don't think even 4M is guaranteed (without a budget release).
the thoroughbred
Member
Yes, I agree. At the moment, it's going exactly to plan, and should dry up at around 3.7m. However, this time we have all this downloadable content, and it may just keep lugging around 20-40k mark for a couple months.kswiston said:
Nirolak said:
I don't know what you can really say about it. The sales are so low anyways that any "bump" might just be statistical noise. Then you have to factor in MH Tri/Black Wii coming out in almost a week, etc.
Actually, on second thought, that is... going to make telling what impact Wii Sports Resort had on the Wii almost impossible, since we don't know if any extended bump is coming from Wii Sports Resort, the Black Wii, Monster Hunter 3, or just the Fall season in general...schuelma said:
Hmm... well, at least the system has quite a few things going for it right now.
Nirolak said:
It's definitely not raising the baseline as much as I expected, regardless. It could be making it hold up better while almost everything not attached to DQIX drops (2600 for #30 in Famitsu this week.
), but there doesn't seem to be a clear way to separate one out from the other.
Eteric Rice
Member
I think there's a pretty logical reason around WSR not boosting Wii sales very much. It's simply that it hits the very same audience that bought the Wii for Wii Sports. They've already bought the system, no need to buy another one. They need to find a new way to pull in potential buyers.
I think New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to do that. Maybe Monster Hunter 3 as well.
Point is, they need to make something simple and accessible, that isn't Wii Sports related. Maybe a simple RPG that uses WM+? Or something in that manner.
I think New Super Mario Bros. Wii is going to do that. Maybe Monster Hunter 3 as well.
Point is, they need to make something simple and accessible, that isn't Wii Sports related. Maybe a simple RPG that uses WM+? Or something in that manner.
Eteric Rice
Member
Vinci said:
Well, we really don't know how many are holding out for a PSP version of Monster Hunter 3. I expect it will bost Wii sales by quite a bit, though.
At this point, the Wii needs new, interesting software to recapture interest in the public.
Vinci said:
I think its still a maybe in terms of boosting sales long term. No doubt we're going to see a short term bump with MH Tri and the new color. If it catches on to even a small degree of the portable ones we could see a long term bump. If it displays no legs, I think things will return to normal relatively quickly.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Fucking terribly, aside from the one packaged with an FFXII demo.hatchx said:
schuelma said:
In a vacuum, MH3 isn't going to boost the Wii's sales for longer than a month or so. The system will need more software that's compelling in order to maintain it. Even the MH fanbase is only so big - and that's if they're willing to jump in with strong enough number to word-of-mouth it to the rest. I thought Eteric was stating that he expected it to not do much beyond WSR - but that's apples to oranges; they couldn't appeal to more different people if they tried.
Also, I don't see why NSMB Wii is going to have a bigger impact than MH3. Will it have an impact? Sure. But with the same potential? I don't think so. NSMB DS doesn't make NSMB Wii going nuclear a certainty, and I think it will appeal to many of the people who already own the Wii in Japan.
Vinci said:
Its certainly mostly guess work, but I think you can make an argument that a 2D console Mario has more mainstream potential than Monster Hunter Tri does. I agree that it will appeal to a lot of people that have a Wii, but I also think it could appeal to people that don't have a Wii but have a DS.
JoshuaJSlone
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hatchx said:
Worth noting that the sales wizards at theSimExchange have DQIX at nearly 7 million worldwide. Good shorting opportunity. Well, I guess not necessarily. Sometimes a game reaching the 600K range and falling off all shipment reports isn't cause to stop hoping for 900K for some people.Segata Sanshiro said:
Dedication Through Light
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Pokemon Platinum managed to climb into number 10, interesting.
Stumpokapow
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JoshuaJSlone said:
That's why I stopped using The Sim Exchange. It's only enjoyable if the market is free from manipulation by entrenched bidders who ignore evidence. The Futures contracts are fun because there's a payout, but the LTD sales stuff is just filled with people who have no reason to not operate in blissful delusion. Too bad, really.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
February through last week's numbers. Looks like the steepest drop came in early May when it dropped from 43K to 29K. That's a bit before the (official) Go announcement.
David H Wong
Banned
Wait, do I have this right?
Handhelds sold:
142,000
High-Definition consoles sold:
11,000
Is that how it was in Japan this week? For every 1 HD console, 13 handhelds were sold?
I know we have the DQ spike, but damn. And life to date:
Handhelds: 39.5 million
HD consoles: 4.3 million
Not much better. Does nobody in Japan have an HD TV? Is that just not a thing over there?
Handhelds sold:
142,000
High-Definition consoles sold:
11,000
Is that how it was in Japan this week? For every 1 HD console, 13 handhelds were sold?
I know we have the DQ spike, but damn. And life to date:
Handhelds: 39.5 million
HD consoles: 4.3 million
Not much better. Does nobody in Japan have an HD TV? Is that just not a thing over there?
Grampa Simpson
Banned
But like anywhere else, it's probably more about the screen size than the resolution.donny2112 said:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Just THIS week? :lolDavid H Wong said:
Are you new to MC threads? Japan has the highest HD penetration anywhere, and they've been pushing the tech far longer than anyone else (regular HD programming started airing in the late 90s/early 00s).
Hm. So this is the quiet before the storm, thread-wise.
Oh boy oh boy oh boy, I cannot wait to see what MH3 does when it comes out next week (it's next week, right?). If it sells badly, 20 page thread. If it sells great, 20 page thread. If it sells normally, 15 page thread.
I'd have liked to see what the black Wii by itself would have done, but oh well.
I'm intrigued by the closeness in sales of DQ 7/8/9, as of the second week. Coincidence, or is the DQ "hardcore" fanbase maxing out at roughly 3 million? I kind of doubt that, and it's too soon to say either way, but it's certainly interesting to follow.
I hope Squares "anti-second hand market" tactic pays off and we get a lot more games that give us huge replay value/postgame content. There culd be a downside to that too ("gimped games"), but I've decided to be optimistic on that issue.
Oh boy oh boy oh boy, I cannot wait to see what MH3 does when it comes out next week (it's next week, right?). If it sells badly, 20 page thread. If it sells great, 20 page thread. If it sells normally, 15 page thread.
I'd have liked to see what the black Wii by itself would have done, but oh well.
I'm intrigued by the closeness in sales of DQ 7/8/9, as of the second week. Coincidence, or is the DQ "hardcore" fanbase maxing out at roughly 3 million? I kind of doubt that, and it's too soon to say either way, but it's certainly interesting to follow.
I hope Squares "anti-second hand market" tactic pays off and we get a lot more games that give us huge replay value/postgame content. There culd be a downside to that too ("gimped games"), but I've decided to be optimistic on that issue.
Eteric Rice
Member
Question to the guys that have been living in Japan for years.
Back in the 90s, and 80s (if you've been there that long, I doubt it), were video game commercials ever really focused on the visual appeal of a game? It seems that a lot of the time, it was in the USA.
I have to wonder if this is effected the way Japanese gamers decide what to buy. In the USA, the first thing we look to is visuals, but is it the same in Japan? Or do they just look and say, "looks good enough," and find other things that might attract them?
I'm just curious.
Back in the 90s, and 80s (if you've been there that long, I doubt it), were video game commercials ever really focused on the visual appeal of a game? It seems that a lot of the time, it was in the USA.
I have to wonder if this is effected the way Japanese gamers decide what to buy. In the USA, the first thing we look to is visuals, but is it the same in Japan? Or do they just look and say, "looks good enough," and find other things that might attract them?
I'm just curious.