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Media Create Sales: Nov 30-Dec 6, 2009
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schuelma said:
I think ToG will perform better than ToS2, but worse than the combined Vesperia.
As for FFXIII, I cannot tell where above the 1 Million line it'll end up, if it does start there at all. The problem is that I feel FFXIII's marketing and push is not very exceptional. After the countless FF games we've seen over the years, such as Dissidia as well as SE's other major games, we're used to the type of stuff SE does. Game trailers, publish adverts, canned drinks, kiosks... it's all been done before. It's not like what we saw with NSMB Wii that had the game striking a chord with the people who see its ads. I think even MH3 had a bigger ad campaign, and we saw the limits of the MH franchise on consoles. It should do pretty well, but I see no indications as to how it'll be different from the previous FFs, which puts the PS3's position as the number two system instead of the frontrunner in the spotlight.
I'm not gonna rule out a performance similar to the PS2 games' debuts myself, but I wouldn't count a below 1 Million performance out either.
I'd say that the promotion for 13 is bigger than previous FF games from what I remember...they usually go all out for a new FF launch and 13 is definitely no exception. Start the hype early, have insane promotions, campaigns, constant ads running in game stores...ads in every other form of media, par for the course. FF launches can actually be annoying since you can't go to a single store that sells games and not be assaulted by the advertisements. It's been like that for as long as I remember, and I've seen my fare share of mainline launches.
If anything, integrating the Internet with promotion makes it even bigger, there are tons of online-specific promotions and tie-ins with popular websites. They're hitting everything that they can. I don't remember it being that big for FF12, but the Japanese internet scene wasn't as mature back then.
Hell, I remember when the original potion promotion for FF12 was such a big deal and people were going crazy trying to buy them, they were sold out in quite a few convenience stores for the first few days, but now that stuff is par for the course. Even that was an interesting jump over FFX's advertising which was your typical media blitz, it reached out to a new casual crowd and expanded the brand image to a whole new medium of beverages. SE keeps going bigger and bigger using whatever they can to advertise. It may not seem that big compared to other launches because they slowly ramp up, but it's definitely noticeable.
If anything, integrating the Internet with promotion makes it even bigger, there are tons of online-specific promotions and tie-ins with popular websites. They're hitting everything that they can. I don't remember it being that big for FF12, but the Japanese internet scene wasn't as mature back then.
Hell, I remember when the original potion promotion for FF12 was such a big deal and people were going crazy trying to buy them, they were sold out in quite a few convenience stores for the first few days, but now that stuff is par for the course. Even that was an interesting jump over FFX's advertising which was your typical media blitz, it reached out to a new casual crowd and expanded the brand image to a whole new medium of beverages. SE keeps going bigger and bigger using whatever they can to advertise. It may not seem that big compared to other launches because they slowly ramp up, but it's definitely noticeable.
Dragona Akehi
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DR2K said:
You're no longer welcome in any Sales threads.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Because he posted the same joke in two threads?Dragona Akehi said:
DSi LL 53,791
DSi 51,635
DS Lite 8,367
Looks like the DS price rise is here to stay.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
viciouskillersquirrel said:
If only he was joking.
Jesus at the DS family. Ridiculous.
Another 10K jump for PS3..maybe will be at 70-75K the week before FF13?
Great Wii numbers of course, and like I said earlier I think this week wraps it up for the Wii PS3 battle 2009 unless PS3 does like 200K+ in the weeks following FF13.
Another 10K jump for PS3..maybe will be at 70-75K the week before FF13?
Great Wii numbers of course, and like I said earlier I think this week wraps it up for the Wii PS3 battle 2009 unless PS3 does like 200K+ in the weeks following FF13.
charlequin
Banned
cvxfreak said:
Between 212k and 470k? I laughed.
vicissitudes
Banned
DS didn't do as well as I thought it would, Wii > DSiLL + DSi.
PS3 doing better than expected, Wii got a huge bump. The question is how much higher does the Wii rise next week.
PS3 doing better than expected, Wii got a huge bump. The question is how much higher does the Wii rise next week.
thestopsign
Member
Frillen said:Probably not that much, if at all. The NSMBW and SW3 effect will wear off. Tales should sell some HWs though, and the seasonal boost should start to kick in. But enough to keep the Wii above 100k? We'll have to wait and see
I think the Wii will be flat week over week. I think the two different forces you mentioned offset each other pretty nicely.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
How does Phantasy Star Portable 2 compare to its predecessor?
schuelma said:
Yeah, I think I have to follow your footsteps after further examinating the situation. First of all, the Wii had a pretty big boost last year during this week without any new releases. I also think NSMBW will have a good word to mouth, which might reach out to even more casuals who picks it up this week along with a Wii. Secondly, Tales will move more HW than SW3 did. That's pretty much a given.
So I think 110k+ is a given in next week's chart.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Nirolak said:Garaph hasn't updated yet, but here's PSP1:
It's doing a bit worse so far.
Damn, I was hoping Phantasy Star Portable 2 would do better than its predecessor with all the great improvements.
If the game is really well made, there's a fair chance it will get nice legs based on good word of mouth and its co-op nature, despite the slower start.Hcoregamer00 said:
Damn, I was hoping Phantasy Star Portable 2 would do better than its predecessor with all the great improvements.
The_lascar
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First week & hardware : Media Create
LTD : Famitsu
(http://www.nintendojofr.com/redacti...reate_Japon_du_30_novembre_au_6_décembre.html)
LTD : Famitsu
(http://www.nintendojofr.com/redacti...reate_Japon_du_30_novembre_au_6_décembre.html)
charlequin
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JoshuaJSlone
Member
Based on this week's Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 61.5 / 38.5 bring total shares to 68.3 / 31.7. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 214.5 weeks (January 16, 2014).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 8.4 / 91.6 bring total shares to 22.9 / 77.1. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 524.6 weeks (December 27, 2019).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 35.2 / 64.8 bring total shares to 30.8 / 69.2. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 85.4 weeks (July 27, 2011).
Week over week, DS continues riding high, NSMBW brings Wii up to meet it, PS3/PSP continue to ramp up, and nobody cares about PS2/X360.
Through the first forty-nine weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -43.3%
DS family: +6.3%
PS2: -55.8%
PS3: +55.7%
PSP family: -41.0%
X360: +22.1%
Home hardware: -19.3%
Portable hardware: -17.8%
Nintendo hardware: -15.4%
Sony hardware: -24.6%
Sum of all hardware: -18.4%
Last year:
This year:
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 61.5 / 38.5 bring total shares to 68.3 / 31.7. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 214.5 weeks (January 16, 2014).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 8.4 / 91.6 bring total shares to 22.9 / 77.1. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 524.6 weeks (December 27, 2019).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 35.2 / 64.8 bring total shares to 30.8 / 69.2. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 85.4 weeks (July 27, 2011).
Week over week, DS continues riding high, NSMBW brings Wii up to meet it, PS3/PSP continue to ramp up, and nobody cares about PS2/X360.
Through the first forty-nine weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -43.3%
DS family: +6.3%
PS2: -55.8%
PS3: +55.7%
PSP family: -41.0%
X360: +22.1%
Home hardware: -19.3%
Portable hardware: -17.8%
Nintendo hardware: -15.4%
Sony hardware: -24.6%
Sum of all hardware: -18.4%
Last year:
This year:
DR2K
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charlequin said:
Oh no I'm pretty sure it was. But what I stated wasn't "goofy" at all. As I did have reasons for my predictions. It's just that whenever Wii's sales are under any kind of scrutiny, sirens go off and the some maniacal defense force kicks in. It's funny and sad at the same time to see so many grown people throw hissy fits over something so random and meaningless.
AMoreHumbleSquare
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OT but any chance Square-Enix has announced its launch FFXIII shipments yet?
vicissitudes
Banned
schuelma said:
I'm thinking the same, due to Tales of Graces (bundles?) and continued legs of NSMB + holiday ramp-up. However, after that I don't think the Wii will rise to heaven like it did in 2007. I think it'll stay between 120k to 200k. So, December will end up somewhere between 2007 and 2008. Which, given its performance for most of the year, is kind of a miracle.
vicissitudes
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Lightning said:
Nope. I think if you look at the multi-plat releases, the western games tend to have a better 360-PS3 ratio than the Japanese games. If FFXIII ends up bombing with maybe 1 million copies week 1, it would have done 200k-250k at most on the 360.
Pureauthor
Member
cvxfreak said:Sure, a Wii release would probably have helped it meet the numbers of previous FF games.
Somewhere, moku suddenly sneezes.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Iiiii'd think selling a couple hundred thousand more would qualify as faring better. Unless all X360 owners are already PS3 owners and you'd just be allocating those 200K differently.vicissitudes said:
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Vilix
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*Busts outta the NPD thread.*
*Tries shutting the door, but too many people inside keep it from closing*
*Pushes until NPD thread door is finally shut*
*heavy breathing*Gosh....whatta nightmare.....in there. Anywho, I wanted to say I believe FFXIII should have very good first day...*collapases from exhaustion*
*Tries shutting the door, but too many people inside keep it from closing*
*Pushes until NPD thread door is finally shut*
*heavy breathing*Gosh....whatta nightmare.....in there. Anywho, I wanted to say I believe FFXIII should have very good first day...*collapases from exhaustion*
AMoreHumbleSquare
Banned
Famitsu Final Fantasy series debut history:
Final Fantasy V - 476,000 (12/1992)
Final Fantasy VI - 1,209,992 (4/1994)
Final Fantasy VII - 2,034,879 (1/1997)
Final Fantasy VIII - 2,504,044 (2/1999)
Final Fantasy IX - 1,954,421 (7/2000)
Final Fantasy X - 1,749,737 (7/2001)
Final Fantasy XI Online - 63,958 (5/2002)
Final Fantasy X-2 - 1,472,914 (3/2003)
Final Fantasy XII - 1,840,397 (3/2006)
Final Fantasy XIII - 1,000,000?? (12/2009)
Sorry I dont have the earlier FFs. FAmitsu did cover all of them though.
Final Fantasy V - 476,000 (12/1992)
Final Fantasy VI - 1,209,992 (4/1994)
Final Fantasy VII - 2,034,879 (1/1997)
Final Fantasy VIII - 2,504,044 (2/1999)
Final Fantasy IX - 1,954,421 (7/2000)
Final Fantasy X - 1,749,737 (7/2001)
Final Fantasy XI Online - 63,958 (5/2002)
Final Fantasy X-2 - 1,472,914 (3/2003)
Final Fantasy XII - 1,840,397 (3/2006)
Final Fantasy XIII - 1,000,000?? (12/2009)
Sorry I dont have the earlier FFs. FAmitsu did cover all of them though.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Woah. That takes me back. I remember a certain bandwagon he started of a... shall we say.... locomotive persuasion? I used to think that the Wii would get a spinoff of some sort, but history proved me wrong there. I did, however, start to believe that the main game would at least go multiplat to the 360 around that time.Pureauthor said:
I know that deep in your heart you don't mean it, but this does set a bad precedent. Nintendo has effectively raised the price the public will expect to pay for a handheld (again).AniHawk said:
I see FFXIII doing about 1,300,000 or thereabouts. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the neighbourhood of 1,500,000, however.AMoreHumbleSquare said:
The_lascar
Member
AMoreHumbleSquare said:
Source?
AnimeTheme
Member
Nirolak said:
Pity that Sega still have some nasty bugs and issues in the Internet mode waiting to be fixed. This will probably hurt some legs.