Cygnus X-1
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I'm not sure. Some report states the keynote will be held next week.
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Media Create Sales: Week 14, 2012 (Apr 02 - Apr 08)
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I'm not sure. Some report states the keynote will be held next week.
MurkyZebra2417
Member
With Kinect Star Wars being a system seller and that Vita drop, I am already hording old games, next Gen ain't looking bright for me :/
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Goodnite sweet prince well its tiiiiime to gooooooo
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Down to four digits at last.
Time to show your hand Sony.
Time to show your hand Sony.
milanbaros
Member?
I think for 3DS to be a true successor to the DS it needs to have some breakout titles. I believe this holiday season will be ripe for a couple of unexpected million sellers. The DS was churning out surprise hits at an incredible rate around its second holiday season if I remember correctly.
When a system is on fire there should be some definite shocks on the upside.
I seriously hope Sony's Vita strategy isn't what I think it is: sustaining a handheld on western support and sales only.
I mean, not even Sony can be that thick, right?
KillerMan91
Member
Pretty much everything is doing poorly. 3DS just less so but still not that great for market leader.
we did... in Japan which is where this thread about and the holiday performance wasn't that good either.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Not with the present currency exchange rate, no.
Vita launched during the holiday in Japan & didn't perform amazingly.
olimpia84
Member
I'm interested to see what kind of legs KI:U will develop (if any?). I have a feeling that it will keep selling steadily enough to get close to 300K. I noticed a bunch of old Wii games and Nintendogs creeping up the charts but no RE:R? That sucks, for a while it was hanging in there.
Regarding the Vita, there isn't a whole lot to say. In a way it's not very surprising since no big games are in the horizon soon. Sony better bring their A+ game for this year's E3.
Regarding the Vita, there isn't a whole lot to say. In a way it's not very surprising since no big games are in the horizon soon. Sony better bring their A+ game for this year's E3.
Well, I think when we get this months Vita sales we'll see that's not really their strategy either. Vita is going to have plenty of uggo months in the US coming up
Given that the PSP brings profit only in Japan I highly doubt that they will try to rely only on Western sales.
It stops two types of posts. 1) Those saying they came in looking for sub-10K sales, and 2) those congratulating Vita on another week holding off the posters in (1). Glad they're both going to end/slowdown for a while, at least.
Eteric Rice
Member
I get the feeling Japanese players are tired of waiting for Kingdom Hearts III. I mean, how many systems have they had to buy so far to keep up with the entire series?
1. PS2
2. PSP
3. GBA
4. DS
5. 3DS
I get the feeling franchise fatigue is kicking in for that one. Hopefully this doesn't mean SE will stop making 3DS games. It could use a real Final Fantasy game at this point.
1. PS2
2. PSP
3. GBA
4. DS
5. 3DS
I get the feeling franchise fatigue is kicking in for that one. Hopefully this doesn't mean SE will stop making 3DS games. It could use a real Final Fantasy game at this point.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Mmm. Maybe, but I'm not convinced by that. Developers never showed refrain by making the same game for more systems or by differentiating their development on more consoles. If they would, they could make games for Vita, despite making games for PSP as well.
Problem for me is that they don't see Vita as a profitable handheld to develop for now. As it was before 3DS's price cut and massive in-house games announcements.
For me the solution is simple: cutting the price. The reason Sony is not doing it is that the Playstation brand probably now is one of the few profitable divisions of Sony and of course they're not much willingly to make this section go into the red numbers as well, after a 6.4 billions $ of loss.
Sony is in a bad situation because of this fucking strong yen as every export oriented japanese company. The government have to take extreme measures or Japan's production richness will all shift to Corea and China.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
BOOOOOOM!
Playstation Zombie.
3D matched Chain of Memories GBA as the series' biggest 2nd week drop-off, quite a feat!
Playstation Zombie.
3D matched Chain of Memories GBA as the series' biggest 2nd week drop-off, quite a feat!
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10000　／　 ノ
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　　　 O　
　　　く|）へ　 　Vita
　　　　〉　　 ヽOノ
￣￣￣￣7　　ヘ/
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I would have agreed with this assertion a year ago, but currently, all indications (including the focus of the handheld and the games Sony has secured for the system) point to the contrary.
I still think games like Resistance will sustain the Vita at a 170k-240k level in the US until the holidays. What happens then on is anybody's guess.
Then I hope they act, and that they act soon.
Takamura-San
Member
Ummm by your logic...getting less money of each system sold, will give them more money to moneyhat exclusives and take a hit on a price cut.....
Some weird math you have there...
Before you bring a 3DS analogy... It was nintendo's hubris that sold the device at $250 at a profit per system. That's not the case for the vita.
2ch?
AgentChris
Member
Sony needs to do something with PSV. KH bombed 
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I thought it would be funny to see the Vita drop below 10k. Now that it's happened, I'm no laughing. Kind of sad, to tell the truth.
To retake some of discussion from last week, and using KH3D numbers as a spring, it looks like 3DS is behaving like PSP software wise, being able to house lots of medium like successes, along the mega succeses like Mario and Mon Hun. And I'm sure the medium succeses will continue to grow as both userbase and overall library consolidate.
But what does catch my attention is that the viral effect DS had in terms of all the software released where titles like Love & Berry, Tamagotchi Collection and FFIIIr all managed to go over a million units is no where near in sight. Might the revision help create an even bigger synergy between hardware and software as the trifecta and the price cut made that will allow for such succeses?
I think it'll be an interesting scenario to see play out and how software support will continue to distribute between 3DS, PS3 and Vita.
But what does catch my attention is that the viral effect DS had in terms of all the software released where titles like Love & Berry, Tamagotchi Collection and FFIIIr all managed to go over a million units is no where near in sight. Might the revision help create an even bigger synergy between hardware and software as the trifecta and the price cut made that will allow for such succeses?
I think it'll be an interesting scenario to see play out and how software support will continue to distribute between 3DS, PS3 and Vita.
No Vita! You were trolling for so long! Ah well though, it's not like it will make a difference really. Let's just get a good new release on the system and then see what happens :/
Glad Kid Icarus and Kingdom Hearts are doing well. I'm looking forward to getting Kingdom Hearts.
Edit: Wait, KH is considered a bomb? 250k is a decent amount, what numbers do KH games usually hit?
Glad Kid Icarus and Kingdom Hearts are doing well. I'm looking forward to getting Kingdom Hearts.
Edit: Wait, KH is considered a bomb? 250k is a decent amount, what numbers do KH games usually hit?
DragonSworne
Banned
Looking at the Vita performance compared to past systems like GC, N64, we can safely say that the hardcore dedicated fans will only get you 5k-10k weekly sales.
This market is tiny, I don't know why so many companies strive to capture them.
This market is tiny, I don't know why so many companies strive to capture them.
Father_Brain
Banned
You just inadvertently explained why a price cut isn't a solution, not in itself. With Vita's software lineup being what it is, a price cut would increase shareholder pressure to exit the dedicated handheld sector a lot more than it would increase third-party confidence in the platform.
Nope. Found it here. XD
Pachterballs
Banned
oh god @ vita.
RIP
RIP
Vita at $249 is a very aggressive pricing model, but then requiring proprietary memory sticks threw that competitive advantage away for me. 3DS at $249 was ridiculous, that's agreed. But as far as not having money left to moneyhat, it's their fault for not having first party games that people want to buy in Japan, and somewhat everywhere. Japan isn't clamoring for Sony's western developed franchises that fought to find a market on PS3 in the west, let alone spin-offs for handhelds.
Quadrangulum
Banned
I hope overseas sales can soften the disappointment for KH. That's abysmally low.
frankie_baby
Member
They probably already did, though with vita sales so low why would capcom bother developing a version for it anyway
...About that, we must see that graph with Vita, GC, PS3, PSP and Dreamcast updated.
Dream Drop Distance is basically a main game like BBS - which ended up doing 623k in Japan.
The game still has to be released world wide before it's considered the total failure people are making it out to be.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Devs love making hardcore game. So they never died, see at Dreamcast.
chickdigger802
Banned
All this doom and gloom. Glad that 360 had a relatively huge bump in sales!
Is star wars big in Japan? Jedis are pretty much space samurais.
Is star wars big in Japan? Jedis are pretty much space samurais.
Cygnus X-1
Member
The mass market is not there anymore. At least, not to the same extend it was on DS. These people are now playing on Smartphones unfortunately.
I don't see any possible change in sight. The only potentially unique offer is the 3D effect, but for multiple reasons its mass market appeal is still not there.
Nintendo needs in other words a new game having the same effect of Brain Training and this is not easy to do of course.
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
Well, I think that Oni Training, Animal Crossing and Tomodachi Collection will move big numbers in Japan. Maybe Fire Emblem and Rune Factory too?
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