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Catharsis for having been robbed the Xtreme Legends copyright.
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Saint Titanfall
PS4 exclusive yo going for that lower than RE7 sales.
Infernal Monkey
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Vita rebirth confirmed.
Marriage and offspring have a much more profound impact in FE4 than in Awakening/Fates, in terms of both plot-relevance and gameplay. You use 2nd gen exclusively
except Finn, and maybe Oifey if you consider him gen 1
Well, Capcom gonna Capcom lol.^^ And then they collapse and get bought by some Chinese company lol.^^
To the Scorpio, right?
Sales:
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/finance/million.html
Resident Evil 7: 3.5 million (Told you so!)
Monster Hunter XX: 1.7 million
Dead Rising 4: Did not make 1 million
Original expectations:
Oh snap, SFV moved from 1.5 to 1.6. If that trend continues it might hit its sales target, just 2 years later.
We got a glimpse with US numbers a few days ago but the attach rate is crazy outside Japan.
So in Japan the 2nd April
Minus two days (rough idea)
Let's say Zelda stands at 360k with digital on Switch
Outside Japan we've got 2.190M NSW and 2.400M Zelda SW, which makes almost a 1.1 attach rate, litterally hundreds of thousands of people buying the game without the hardware
Am I really the only Switch owner that didn't buy Zelda in the western world lol?
Really I don't know what math are you guys trying to do, those are shipped numbers.
Switch may be sold out in many places but the Zelda game is not. The shipping of the game is bigger than the console because there is actual copies to be found everwhere.
With this....how many flop Capcom have had in the recent years here.
SFV flop badly.
REVII failed to reach target
MHXX failed to reach target
Dead Rising 4 is dead on the floor
MHS failed to create some fire.(Still better than Gaist Crusher lol.)
Sengoku basara: Yukimura-Den bomba.
Umbrella Corps bomba
Breath of Fire 6 become the best mobile game eva for Capcom.^^
Ace Attorney series is declining a bit from each last release.
I can't find any other big company which is even more incompetent than Capcom in Japan lol.^^
SFV flop badly.
REVII failed to reach target
MHXX failed to reach target
Dead Rising 4 is dead on the floor
MHS failed to create some fire.(Still better than Gaist Crusher lol.)
Sengoku basara: Yukimura-Den bomba.
Umbrella Corps bomba
Breath of Fire 6 become the best mobile game eva for Capcom.^^
Ace Attorney series is declining a bit from each last release.
I can't find any other big company which is even more incompetent than Capcom in Japan lol.^^
Mr. Pointy
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^
NIS
People were buying a copy each of the Limited Edition and standard versions of Zelda.
NIS
People were buying a copy each of the Limited Edition and standard versions of Zelda.
Yeaah no, the Wii was a huge worldwide phenomenon. Millions of households had one containing lots of people who never ever touched a gaming system in their lives before. Retirement houses had one for the elders to play Wii Sports on, national TV channels were covering the launch and the aftermath of the console itself, it was sold out for months (although that can be attributed to their stocks being low?) and the eBay prices were ridiculous, it was something totally new. Me and my brother sold Wii's at retail back then so I experienced first hand how crazy the Wii could sell.
While the launch of the Switch has been great and its legs are still long I doubt it will once again be a sales monster worldwide and outsell everything for the next years to come.
SinCityAssassin
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I wouldn't say that, the move to make every game after 5 dual release on 3DS/Mobile would help more in that aspect.
Haha.^^ I guess so lol.^^ NIS....i can't even remember what is their most recent success here.^^
Konami on the other hand is the most successful company right now followed by Bamco lol^^(ONly for third party.)
Yeah. The mobile probably would help a bit there but, isn't Mobile had hard time selling paid title there? So i can't see it do really well there.
Oh crap, completely forgot this basic thing, my bad
My point was trying to infer the attach ratio for the game, we also already know that it's superior to 1 in US so it wouldn't have been that surprising if it was similar in other regions.
I had no secret agenda as you can see in my spoiler sentence either lol.
Ace is friggin 15.99 bucks here on the Google Play Store.
How much is it in Japan?
Psycho_Mantis
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RE7 and MHXX were okay for Capcom as stated in the release. RER2, RERHD, RE0HD, MH4, MHX, all performed well.
SinCityAssassin
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On the iOS platform, it's a free trial with in-app purchases. For Japan that's around 2000 yen for the full game before any DLC.
Oh crap, completely forgot this basic thing, my bad
My point was trying to infer the attach ratio for the game, we also already know that it's superior to 1 in US so it wouldn't have been that surprising if it was similar in other regions.
I had no secret agenda as you can see in my spoiler sentence either lol.
I think in the west you can assume it's > 90%, which is still amazing.
True, in the first few years. Wii sales fumbled afterwards though, it fell down hard in year 5 and 6 on the market. Playstation 3 for example did terrible the first few years, but ended up with 85 million sales because of continued support and strong sales in its later years.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
lol what? Let me know when SW starts dominating worldwide. The combination of Japanese and Western third party support led to much of the allure for the PS4. Saying Japanese parties can't dictate a platform's success is simply wrong. They very much aid it. Sure they have less say that Western third parties.
Again lol. No company will ever dare to directly said that their sales bomba there. Both those 2 title failed to reach target. And. only four title being successful and that is from abundant of flop title lol. I really can't see how Capcom do well unless they change focus into like Konami or trying to restructure the company there.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Don't be silly. They missed the targets by acceptable margins and the list of successes are far more lucrative than the list of bombs.
Honestly, they need to give some of these IP's a rest.
There is such a thing as IP fatigue. Suddenly playing musical chairs with IP's will not magically get this games to start selling.
The names themselves need some time off, especially Monster Hunter. That IP has become an annual release, or damn near, since MH3U.
There is such a thing as IP fatigue. Suddenly playing musical chairs with IP's will not magically get this games to start selling.
The names themselves need some time off, especially Monster Hunter. That IP has become an annual release, or damn near, since MH3U.
2 million for MHXX is already low enough and they failed to hit the target.
4 million for REVII is already low enough and they still failed to hit the target.
Why don't u also said that SFV also miss the target by acceptable margins lol.
You deciding which one title is more important compared to the others is another level of deflection lol.
2.7 million for March is well above what anyone would have predicted and those numbers are incredibly impressive considering only 600K got shipped to Japan.
The original 2 million shipment at launch was supplemented by another 700K copies that appears to have mostly been shipped west.
In any case the launch of MK8D should provide another boost and Switch should be beyond 4-4.5 shipped by the end of April if Nintendo had that much stock to supply for the MK8D launch.
I fully expect there to be a focus on supplying Japan for the Splatoon 2 launch and summer holidays since that period is no where near as important in the West.
The original 2 million shipment at launch was supplemented by another 700K copies that appears to have mostly been shipped west.
In any case the launch of MK8D should provide another boost and Switch should be beyond 4-4.5 shipped by the end of April if Nintendo had that much stock to supply for the MK8D launch.
I fully expect there to be a focus on supplying Japan for the Splatoon 2 launch and summer holidays since that period is no where near as important in the West.
The fact that they could increase first month shipments from 2 to 2.7 million is promising imo, since it indicates they do have the capacity to significantly increase production.
I think Switch units could very well fall in that 4-4.5 million range after April, which would be a great userbase for MK8D to launch into, as well as allow for signficant second month sales for BOTW. Good times.
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MH is a Capcom's breadwinner. They produce less they're profitability takes a substa risk dive. They've tried to diverse with not much success so far. I mean shipping 1 to 2 million a quarter and calling it a day would be alright if they were a smaller publisher and had successfully expanded to other markets but tgat-s not the position Capcom is in. Which is why MH on going and consistent success is so important for them.
Wait a year and make a bigger entry (bi-yearly once and a while)? I think that would have just as much of an impact, if not bigger.
Maybe having an ultimate version to a spin-off of a series that has been on the 3DS for far too long could have something to do with it.
Oh well.
It was discontinued in October 2016.
SinCityAssassin
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Remind me again, did Nintendo help in any way to accommodate Monster Hunter on the 3DS platform besides the circle pad pro attachment? I thought I once heard they helped provide server support for online.
They provided pretty significant marketing support and aligned the launch of the N3DS with the launch of MH4U which was big factor in it reaching new heights.
SinCityAssassin
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Well then they better hype up that Monster Hunter 5.
Resident Evil 7: 3.5 million (Told you so!
Under performance of RE7 was written on the wall, it wasn't so difficult to see it after initial shipment. Capcom didn't have neither the power to do the usual channel stuffing with this title.
I genuinely don't think Japanese had any really effect in the West. PS4 dominated out of the gate because Xbox One was a PR disaster. Especially when the biggest games are releasing on Xbox as well.
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/857554649049477121
When asked about the smartphone market in Japan at Capcom's financial briefing held today, their CFO replied saying that they feel as if it has "peaked out" at this point.
When asked about the smartphone market in Japan at Capcom's financial briefing held today, their CFO replied saying that they feel as if it has "peaked out" at this point.
DriftingSpirit
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X1 starting poorly aided PS4 but I wouldn't say that was the reason for why PS4 did so well. That is just the PS brand.
Sony released PS3 in a terrible state and it still outsold X360 worldwide if you align launches. That is in the brand, not mistakes of the competitor.
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Japanese 3rd parties impact in the west is positively minor. Average Ubisoft new IP sells more than most Japanese games combined (I wish I was joking).They're a small fish in a big pond. Only really FF and maybe Metal Gear have really proved themselves with Dark Soul being next just about. Those games aren't even exclusive to the PS4. The likes of Nier, bloodborne, Yakuza etc have done pretty good for themselves but nothing exceptional.
Lol what a mess of a company.
True but there's a difference between the levels at which 360 and PS3 competed and the levels XBO and PS4 are. Regardless PS4 was winning long before it released in Japan when any notable Japanese games were coming to both.
Hellraider
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I'm not a fan of meme reactions but "Ayyy lmao" is just too perfect for this mess of a company.
MisterR
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It's not gonna come close to that, but it may hit 3DS type levels, which would be a success.
GameZune. Clearly.
I've read many times this 3DS barrier. 3DS wasn't some kind of astonishing success outside Japan that its numbers can't be replicated and are are the guide for Switch.
I think the audiences currently being focussed on for the two platforms are a little different from one another - I don't see the Switch being as appealing to the mass casual audience as the Wii was. Conversely, though, I see it being significantly more appealing to anyone who'd regard themselves as a gamer, because anyone in that category would probably have experience of a use case in which having a console akin to the Switch would have been beneficial.
I *think* the potential Wii-style audience is rather greater than the potential Switch-style audience - so I don't see the Switch surpassing the Wii - but I suspect the potential Switch-style audience may prove more profitable in the long run.
Lots of unknowns right now. Who knows what things will look like in two years or so?
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I mean the Switch did almost 5 months of 3DS in it's launch month. The 3Ds didn't do particular well in either NA or EU which is which Japan stands at a 3rd of it's total install base. There's plenty to be improved upon there.
MisterR
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If you think it's gonna hit Wii levels good for you. I don't think it will come close. 60-70 million would be great for the switch.
If you think Nintendo will be satisfied with 3DS level hw and sw sales good for you.
MisterR
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It also released with one of the best games of all time. Let's see what happens going forward. It's a bit early to call it another Wii. A lot is going to depend on how it resonates with the mainstream, if it wants to reach 100 million. It's not going to have GTA, or most big western 3rd party games on it. We'll have to see how it holds up.