Do you happen to have a link to where people calculated it out?
My mistake, i had it in my head that they said July.
Ōkami;244444759 said:Next Yakuza game announced next month, should be a smallerish title and likely releasing this year.
Take a guess
Yakuza -1
Yakuza 2 Kiwami
Yakuza but with zombies 2
Yakuza in feudal Japan 3
Remake of the PSP games.
Some new crazy spin offExpect PS4 only.Yakuza in space
Ōkami;244444759 said:Next Yakuza game announced next month, should be a smallerish title and likely releasing this year.
Take a guess
Yakuza -1
Yakuza 2 Kiwami
Yakuza but with zombies 2
Yakuza in feudal Japan 3
Remake of the PSP games.
Some new crazy spin offExpect PS4 only.Yakuza in space
Found the article I was looking for.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/nintendos-switch-game-console-to-debut-on-march-3-1484280797
Nintendo believed, with the production issues already in mind, that it could sell 10M units before 2018. I think people calculated the amount it should have sold until July and it was around 5M WW, so they're on track to easily reach it. Since it released in March, by its 1st anniversary, it may sold 11-12M units. That's extremely close to Wii and PS4 figures. Nintendo didn't expect another Wii U, they wouldn't even have greenlighted the product if that's what it would result. What they really didn't expect is to have one of their most successful console right out of the gate, capable of outpacing Wii. It's very different and doesn't show an initial lack of confidence, like some people are arguing for.
Sorry to bring non-japanese figures here but I wanted to clear that out.
Yep.
Honestly if I were them I would have delayed many of the games. Zelda and Mario Kart alone have driven the current sales. They could easily pushed Arms out a month, sat on Mario until 2018 and had Splatoon as the big holiday game. Bad for gamers, good for Nintendo, who can pull the trigger on the big games when they need them.
Right now they have the huge drivers with no stock left to drive.
I don't believe we've actually seen demand fall out for a platform on shortages.
Individual games, yes, but that's because used copies exist, or another more appealing game comes out. There's not a sea of used Switches or exciting new hardware platforms releasing in the coming months.
I'd argue PS4 is also a heavily-in-second-place system's successor here, not all that different from 360. The gap between its antecedent PS3 and Wii may be "only" ~15m, but that's after years of Nintendo neglect while they ramped for the WiiU. And while PS2 versus Xbox ended up as a far bigger slaughter, a huge amount of that gap is from after 360 launched.I think the PS3 is the key comparison here because the first year of the Xbox 360 was a split generation with the vastly-in-second-place system's successor coming out first.
But it did go way up, from 60 titles to 90 if you compare to Xbox 360. Using the PS3 comparison the gap is indeed lower, 83 to 90. But as you mentioned, scoring this generation has been harsher than last. In addition, you're surely aware that there are far fewer retail releases period--the titles most likely to get reviewed. Adjusting for those factors, I'd say PS4 is way up over PS3 as well.I also do think adding in large numbers of indie games and remasters compared to the amount of downloadable titles in the first years of the 360 and PS3 (and the 360's games were still operating under the strict file and price limits those days) we would naturally expect the number of highly reviewed games to go way up, which is what my "only 90" would be about.
Yeah, no realistic shipment number was ever going to sate the true demand for Switches. They'll have been hard to get no matter what the amount.These are not necessarily contradictory situations.
To be a bit more accurate, thanks to the leakes we've recently had for NPD numbers
US April - June 2017 | 661,517
Japan April - June 2017 (Week 13- Week 26, 2017 by Media Create) | 474,812
Total - 1,136,329
If you add the rest of the Americas and Others (mainly Europe), you'll probably get around 1.6 - 1.7 millions at max. So, around 4,440,000 units shipped at max.
I very much doubt Nintedno shipped more to Amerias and EU than US+Japan.
I very much doubt Nintedno shipped more to Amerias and EU than US+Japan. Those region were the clear focus going by the regional pricing.
1.6-1.7 millions is the range for total shipments I'm expecting. That would translate in around 464,000 - 564,000 units shipped to the rest of Americas and others combined.
He's saying they shipped around 470k (minimum) to eu and row in that period.
To be a bit more accurate, thanks to the leakes we've recently had for NPD numbers
US April - June 2017 | 661,517
Japan April - June 2017 (Week 13- Week 26, 2017 by Media Create) | 474,812
Total - 1,136,329
If you add the rest of the Americas and Others (mainly Europe), you'll probably get around 1.6 - 1.7 millions at max. So, around 4,440,000 units shipped at max.
i'm not so sure, it was looking like 55% of the shipments were going to US(not to be confused with the americas) and japan alone. When Nintendo announced they had shipped 2.74 million, only 1.5 were from those two areas, leaving 1.24 million for the rest of world.
So let's they kept these shipping numbers percentages. We know that US plus Japan is at 2.7 million systems. 2.7 is 54% of 5. So it's safe to assume that 5 million is likely at this point. With their fiscal year goal of 13 million, 8 million more systems in the next months seems feasible. It's literally 1 million systems a month going out.
I think you're missing what I was trying to say here. The PS4 and XB1 launched at the same time, and was a clear generation switch-over point.I'd argue PS4 is also a heavily-in-second-place system's successor here, not all that different from 360. The gap between its antecedent PS3 and Wii may be "only" ~15m, but that's after years of Nintendo neglect while they ramped for the WiiU. And while PS2 versus Xbox ended up as a far bigger slaughter, a huge amount of that gap is from after 360 launched.
Either way, though, I think my point stands. See below.
I don't think this is actually that weird of a concept. Let me use a sales analogy. As of the time Brink released, Fallout 3 had shipped 6 million copies. Skyrim was in the 25-30 million range by the time Fallout 4 hit, and I would have considered it a major disappointment if Fallout 4 was an 8 million lifetime sales type title given what Bethesda's previous game had done. It ended up shipping 12 million copies on day one, which was well above Skyrim's 7 million.But it did go way up, from 60 titles to 90 if you compare to Xbox 360. Using the PS3 comparison the gap is indeed lower, 83 to 90. But as you mentioned, scoring this generation has been harsher than last. In addition, you're surely aware that there are far fewer retail releases period--the titles most likely to get reviewed. Adjusting for those factors, I'd say PS4 is way up over PS3 as well.
Even if you're adamant that it's only up, and not "way up", it seems perverse to dismiss the performance as unexpectedly low. It's still the highest number any console has posted. "Yeah, but I expected it to be the best ever by a bigger margin." Disappointment in this case seems idiosyncratic at best.
The release slate of 85+ games has done pretty much what you predicted. That's precisely why I was reacting to your evinced surprise.
Probably not much help with regards to the stock discussion, but we know that Switch sold 105k at launch in France and had moved 250k by early June. How much of that 145k came after March is anyone guess though.
Right and going by that number and how big of a market France is for Nintedno there is no way it they shipped over 2 million to regions outside of US and Japan. I mean where they fuck would they ship so much and why when Japan and US (two biggest Nintedno markets) are both so short on stock.
Probably not much help with regards to the stock discussion, but we know that Switch sold 105k at launch in France and had moved 250k by early June. How much of that 145k came after March is anyone guess though.
I don't think many people that wanted Switches will settle for a PS4 when they weren't able to get one.I don't believe we've actually seen demand fall out for a platform on shortages.
Individual games, yes, but that's because used copies exist, or another more appealing game comes out. There's not a sea of used Switches or exciting new hardware platforms releasing in the coming months.
I don't see them shipping almost 2.5 million to other regions it just not happened especially since something like Japan sees constant shortages.
Beginning to see why Yamauchi hadn't chosen this clown to be his successor back in the day. Kimishima was given success on a golden platter rimmed with diamond-encrusted edges and ruby-studded utensils but he has the forward vision of a one-eyed gnat.
Beginning to see why Yamauchi hadn't chosen this clown to be his successor back in the day. Kimishima was given success on a golden platter rimmed with diamond-encrusted edges and ruby-studded utensils but he has the forward vision of a one-eyed gnat.
Beginning to see why Yamauchi hadn't chosen this clown to be his successor back in the day. Kimishima was given success on a golden platter rimmed with diamond-encrusted edges and ruby-studded utensils but he has the forward vision of a one-eyed gnat.
Kimishima wasn't even work in Nintendo back in the day
My statement more reflects on the degree to which review scores have harshened that we *don't* see a huge sea of titles at 85+.
Yes he was. Yamauchi gave him his son-in-law's old position.
Pokemon Company is not Nintendo
Beginning to see why Yamauchi hadn't chosen this clown to be his successor back in the day. Kimishima was given success on a golden platter rimmed with diamond-encrusted edges and ruby-studded utensils but he has the forward vision of a one-eyed gnat.
???
He left the Pokemon Co. to work for Yamauchi, who eventually promoted him to be chief of NoA.
Remember, everyone: Nintendo's Q1 financial results do not feature investor meetings / Q&A sessions.
No meeting, datas only, Final De-I mean First Quarter.
I wouldn't put much stock in what people say about the switch if they are not able to find it now. People aren{t the best judge of character when it comes down to their own spending habits and even then, samples of n=1 are not representative.
I think the demand will sustain for years.
Beginning to see why Yamauchi hadn't chosen this clown to be his successor back in the day. Kimishima was given success on a golden platter rimmed with diamond-encrusted edges and ruby-studded utensils but he has the forward vision of a one-eyed gnat.
I think this really puts thing into perspective.Found the article I was looking for.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/nintendos-switch-game-console-to-debut-on-march-3-1484280797
Nintendo believed, with the production issues already in mind, that it could sell 10M units before 2018. I think people calculated the amount it should have sold until July and it was around 5M WW, so they're on track to easily reach it. Since it released in March, by its 1st anniversary, it may sold 11-12M units. That's extremely close to Wii and PS4 figures. Nintendo didn't expect another Wii U, they wouldn't even have greenlighted the product if that's what it would result. What they really didn't expect is to have one of their most successful console right out of the gate, capable of outpacing Wii. It's very different and doesn't show an initial lack of confidence, like some people are arguing for.
Sorry to bring non-japanese figures here but I wanted to clear that out.
In CY2017, in Japan, PS4 hardware will outsell Switch hardware. It will also outsell 3DS hardware.
In CY2017, in Japan, PS4 hardware will outsell Switch hardware. It will also outsell 3DS hardware.
In CY2017, in Japan, PS4 hardware will outsell Switch hardware. It will also outsell 3DS hardware.
In CY2017, in Japan, PS4 hardware will outsell Switch hardware. It will also outsell 3DS hardware.
I'm not sure I get it. You expect PS4 to sell more than Switch the FY Switch is launching ? You know that Switch is already ahead and PS4 has no notable release post-DQXI for this FY until MHW, provided it actually release this FW ?
I'm not sure I get it. You expect PS4 to sell more than Switch the FY Switch is launching ? You know that Switch is already ahead and PS4 has no notable release post-DQXI for this FY until MHW, provided it actually release this FW ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's not talking about the Fiscal Year, but the Calendar Year, which is even more unlikely.
Not even FY, but CY. So even MHW is a non-factor.