Psycho_Mantis
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2013 (Jul 22 - Jul 28)
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I should use /s more
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Holy shit, why is the Wii U cover so glorious, yet the PS3 cover so bland?
Yakuza is gonna flop so damn hard. 522th on Amazon.co.jp. My God, will it even reach 5k on first week?
SenatorBot
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http://dw.diamond.ne.jp/articles/-/6435?page=2
Anyone wish to translate this?
Apparently the semi-conductor factory that supplies the Wii U exclusively is closing down due to the poor sales of the Wii U. Due to producing only for the Wii U, noone is willing to buy them to offset the losses.
Once they close down, Nintendo would have to redesign the Wii U as parts for the Wii U production will rise due to no manufacturer available for it, according to my meagre understanding of the article.
Anyone wish to translate this?
Apparently the semi-conductor factory that supplies the Wii U exclusively is closing down due to the poor sales of the Wii U. Due to producing only for the Wii U, noone is willing to buy them to offset the losses.
Once they close down, Nintendo would have to redesign the Wii U as parts for the Wii U production will rise due to no manufacturer available for it, according to my meagre understanding of the article.
shinra-bansho
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If your understanding of the article is accurate... yikes.
EDIT: Oh found a Reuters article, so this was news a couple of days ago. Did Nintendo mention it in their supplementary earnings information?
EDIT: Oh found a Reuters article, so this was news a couple of days ago. Did Nintendo mention it in their supplementary earnings information?
Yeah, this seems like potentially big news. We need translator-san.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
That's quite an optimistic number you've got there.
I don't really understand the point of this release, I guess Nintendo begged SEGA for something else alongside Sonic deal and they threw them this.
Also remember that Nagoshi considers it a test if Yakuza is even viable on Nintendo platform, guess what the result will be.
Nightstick11
Banned
If these games get localized in a timely manner, I might as well box up everything but my 3DS until well into 2014.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Well at the speed the Wii U is selling no need for a redesign for another couple of years.
Yes.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Whats frankly bemusing about Yakuza HD 1+2 for WiiU is how long they spent talking about the game in the JP direct like it was a major announcement. I was expecting Y5 to come to the WiiU and what is even more bewildering is how the series director (?) just straight up said it was unlikely for the next Yakuza game to come out for the platform. Just begs for the question as what was the point of this port?
I think yakuza might be a big sucess. Even charting on the top 50 from dengeki. Top 30 is already stretching a little.
But for what is worth, Nagoshi said that it was not a question about sales but about reception, whatever the hell it means. I guess even him knew that it was going to bomb.
But for what is worth, Nagoshi said that it was not a question about sales but about reception, whatever the hell it means. I guess even him knew that it was going to bomb.
Yakuza will be lucky to sell 10K LTD.
metalslimer
Member
People here are being way too harsh
15k LTD
shinra-bansho
Member
Is even 10K optimistic?
It did like 60K on the PS3's 8.5M installed base (a less than 1% attach rate), which likely had a more receptive audience to the title as well.
If it has the same attach rate, we'd be looking at like 7K lifetime.
It did like 60K on the PS3's 8.5M installed base (a less than 1% attach rate), which likely had a more receptive audience to the title as well.
If it has the same attach rate, we'd be looking at like 7K lifetime.
metalslimer
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Of course you have to factor in the barren wiiu lineup and people with nothing to play
The Wonderful 101 needs some company.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
Nintendo is probably so out of the touch with reality that they looked at piece of paper that says "Yakuza will be on the WiiU" and said "Amazing!".
The "1&2 HD" part skipped their mind.
I was being ironic at the big success.
Anyway, i think 10k ltd is possible. 15k is already a pipedream.
And i think nintendo made an agreement to have a big game for overseas (sonic) and one for japan (which ended up being yakuza). Of course it didnt end up well.
Well, according to the man himself:
Source: http://kotaku.com/yakuza-on-the-wii-u-is-an-experiment-and-not-happenin-510075724Kotaku said:
Nintendo's side was probably more "We will take anything we can get."
Sammy Samusu
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Maybe the plan is to release it in the west.
My guess would be that Nintendo requested Yakuza on the Wii U, and since Nintendo is publishing Sonic, Sega wanted to be agreeable.
However, since they have implied they are switching over to PS4 development, they likely didn't want to make the new game on Wii U as well.
So, in an attempt to fit both needs, they may have proposed a strategy such as "Well, since Nintendo fans have never played the series before and the plotline is all connected, we wanted to start them at the beginning. If this is a success, we can port Yakuza Kezan in 2014, Yakuza 3 in 2015, Yakuza 4 in 2016, and so on and so forth so that by the time we reach porting over Yakuza 6, your new console will be out, and the port will be much more feasible."
Of course, if Yakuza 1 & 2 HD doesn't sell, they can just say "Sorry, we tried, but there was no market demand."
Parakeetman reviewed MIND≒0:
I'd suggest lowering your already low sales expectations even lower.
Or maybe it's part of Nintendo's master plan.
Sammy Samusu
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http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/
Ghost Watch: 31 > 34
Oh oh oh oh oh.
Slay.
Ghost Watch: 31 > 34
Oh oh oh oh oh.
Secret Black Panther 3 and Yakuza 6 demo.
Slay.
Whoa, Dragon's Crown seems to be doing better on the Vita than the PS3. It'd be neat if their sales intersected. Also, Mind=0 not doing absolutely terribly, which is kind of surprising.
StreetsAhead
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This bit has gotten old. Whether or not you think there plan is a good one, and whether or not it will work, they clearly have one.
I'm not sure why someone speculating on the actions of a different publisher warrants this comment, or who aggravated you so much that you feel the need to regularly post something like this, but we get it.
COMGNet is one chain only in one Prefecture of 47. The figures are only as valuable as that.
timetokill
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I'd get Yakuza 1&2 HD myself if it were coming to the US.
Aquamarine
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Code:
[U][B]Comgnet Software Sales Rankings (2013/07/29 - 2013/08/04)[/B][/U]
[B]01. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life – 125pt[/B]
02. [3DS] Mario and Luigi: Dream Team – 45pt
03. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection: New Life – 41pt
04. [PSV] Dragon's Crown – 40pt
05. [PS3] The Witch and the Hundred Knights (Limited Edition) – 39pt
06. [3DS] Ace Attorney 5 – 39pt
07. [PS3] Dragon's Crown – 34pt
08. [3DS] Youkai Watch – 34pt
[B]09. [PS3] Killer Is Dead (Premium Edition) – 28pt[/B]
[B]10. [PSV] Mind/Zero – 27pt[/B]
11. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 – 26pt
12. [WIU] Pikmin 3 – 19pt
13. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf – 19pt
14. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition (bundle) – 16pt
15. [PSP] God Eater Burst (PSP the Best) – 14pt
[B]16. [PS3] Metro: Last Light – 14pt[/B]
17. [3DS] Hoppechan: Tsukutte! Asonde! Punipuni Town!! – 13pt
18. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon – 13pt
19. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D – 12pt
20. [WIU] Lego City Undercover – 11pt
[B]* New releases are in bold
* 1 pt = 1 sale
3DS - 9
PS3 - 5
PSV - 2
WIU - 2
WII - 1
PSP - 1
[/B]No Tsutaya yet, but I'll post it when it comes up.
Glass Rebel
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M&L stretching its legs
;_;
Road of Ease
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What is this game?
Oh, title is Mind Zero, thank you image link
Yeah, not really a mainstream title, is it
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Really interesting that Dragon's Crown Vita had barely budged. Even more interesting that The Witch and the Hundred Knights' Limited Edition is there, while the Standard Edition had disappeared.
shinra-bansho
Member
Do they at this stage? Beyond hope that Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong and a Wind Waker port will cause a resurgence...?
I generally find commentary about anything being all part of some larger plan, rather than reactionary scrambling to fix a series of mistakes, often seems like people are trying to pretend there wasn't a series of mistakes to begin with.
Well, unless that plan includes a price drop this year it isn't going to be much of a plan.
StreetsAhead
Member
That's what they're doing, so I assume that is the plan. Again, I'm not making comment on its quality, or viability, but it seems that this is indeed their plan. Part of that is, as implied by their investor notes, releasing first party software consistently to try to rebuild consumer confidence in the platform.
(Also, DK still isn't confirmed for Japan for this year).
I don't think saying that they have a plan for the holidays/2014 now precludes that mistakes were made and potentially could be made in the future.
Like, they had a plan for launch window software and they mistook the resources it would require, so they changed their plan.
I don't think anyone is supposing the Nintendo God orchestrated these terrible sales and software droughts deliberately as part of some master plan to .... fulfill random goals? Or at least I hope no one is thinking such, because at this point it would be crazy.
It's only ~30,000 yen for the Premium model already. I don't think Japan isn't getting a price-cut. Not before the software fails over the holiday, anyway. But again, I was not commenting on the quality of their plan, only its existence.
Hero of Legend
Member
Anyway play Disney Magic Castle and find out if the game was outsourced? Somehow I doubt Namco Bandai did the game themselves.
Aquamarine
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Code:
[U][B]Tsutaya Software Sales Rankings: Week 31, 2013 (Jul 29 - Aug 04) Comgnet Software Sales Rankings: Week 31, 2013 (Jul 29 - Aug 04)[/B][/U]
[B]01./NEW [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life[/B] [B]01. [3DS] Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life 125pt[/B]
02./01. [3DS] Ace Attorney 5 02. [3DS] Mario and Luigi: Dream Team 45pt
03./05. [3DS] Mario and Luigi: Dream Team 03. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection: New Life 41pt
04./04. [PS3] The Witch and the Hundred Knights 04. [PSV] Dragon's Crown 40pt
[B]05./NEW [PSV] Mind/Zero[/B] 05. [PS3] The Witch and the Hundred Knights 39pt
06./06. [3DS] Youkai Watch 06. [3DS] Ace Attorney 5 39pt
[B]07./NEW [PS3] Killer Is Dead (Premium Edition)[/B] 07. [PS3] Dragon's Crown 34pt
08./03. [PSV] Dragon's Crown 08. [3DS] Youkai Watch 34pt
09./07. [3DS] Fantasy Life: Link! [B]09. [PS3] Killer Is Dead (Premium Edition) 28pt[/B]
10./02. [PS3] Dragon's Crown [B]10. [PSV] Mind/Zero 27pt[/B]
11./10. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection: New Life 11. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 26pt
12./08. [PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 12. [WIU] Pikmin 3 19pt
13./09. [WIU] Pikmin 3 13. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf 19pt
14./11. [PSP] Toukiden 14. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition (bundle) 16pt
15./12. [3DS] Danboru Senki W: Ultra Custom 15. [PSP] God Eater Burst (PSP the Best) 14pt
16./15. [PSP] Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc (PSP the Best) [B]16. [PS3] Metro: Last Light 14pt[/B]
17./14. [PSV] Toukiden 17. [3DS] Hoppechan: Tsukutte! Asonde! Punipuni Town!! 13pt
18./16. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D 18. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon 13pt
19./20. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf 19. [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D 12pt
20./17. [PS3] The Last of Us 20. [WIU] Lego City Undercover 11pt
[B]* New releases are in bold * 1 pt = 1 sale
3DS - 9 3DS - 9
PS3 - 5 PS3 - 5
PSV - 3 PSV - 2
PSP - 2 WIU - 2
WIU - 1 WII - 1
PSP - 1[/B]
[B][U]New releases not present in either Top 20:[/U]
[3DS] Doki Doki! PreCure Narikiri Life!
[3DS] Fashionable Puppy 3D
[PSP] Shiratsuyu no Kai
[PSP] Shiratsuyu no Kai [Limited Edition]
[PSP] NBA 2K13 (2K Collection)
[PS3] Sangoku Hime 2: Kouhata Houkou - Kakuseimeshi Taiga
[PS3] Sangoku Hime 2: Kouhata Houkou - Kakuseimeshi Taiga [Limited Edition]
[360] Killer Is Dead
[360] Killer Is Dead [Premium Edition]
[360] Metro: Last Light[/B]2013 Tsutaya + Comgnet Weekly Sales Archive
Killer is Dead being below Mind/Zero can't be good news with how much of a bomb the latter seems like it'll be. Last I checked it had less than 20 votes on PSN and everything points to some pretty bad sales, so... yeah.
On the other hand, pretty interesting that DC Vita was above DC PS3 both for Comg and Tsutaya.
On the other hand, pretty interesting that DC Vita was above DC PS3 both for Comg and Tsutaya.
metalslimer
Member
I've seen people post that because of that 9 million goal Nintendo has some big plan and titles they've yet to reveal and aren't telling us about. It's the same idea some people had with Vita last year that Sony had a grand plan to get to that ridiculous goal. I honestly don't think releasing 1st party games counts as a plan when they were going to do that regardless. I'm not saying nintendo doesn't have a more complex plan ready but they certainly haven't shown it.
DC PS3 was pretty much sold out after week 1. Vita version being ahead makes sense.
DC PS3 was pretty much sold out after week 1. Vita version being ahead makes sense.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Is this the first time we've seen Toukiden PSP outsell Toukiden Vita? Interesting to see The Witch and The Hundred Knights not budge.
1st Course
Member
Big drop for Lego.
It will probably do 5k or so this week.
It will probably do 5k or so this week.
They have no shot at making their fiscal goal, but as far as a "plan" to have a good holiday and early 2014 it is really really simple- they release the games they say are coming, and they drop the price of the Premium. It isn't rocket science, and to me the only question is if Nintendo realizes their fiscal targets are not going to happen and their only choice is to try and salvage the console this year before XBone and PS4 really get going.
shinra-bansho
Member
I'm not sure what you're excited about. It in no way indicates Vita is going to rise further on the second week of Dragon's Crown. It's not going to happen. Unless Mind 0 miraculously sells a ton.
It's died down a lot now, but I assume that's from where Chris' sarcastic posts stem.
And likewise, I don't really know if what's being described (releasing Nintendo software) really constitutes a plan or strategy for the system. Certainly not one that warrants such a ridiculous fiscal year forecast. It's sort of like saying a band-aid is a plan to treat a gaping flesh wound.
Pretty much. We had "third party NDAs" and "soft launch" and "wait for Nintendo Direct" constantly post-launch.
It's died down a lot now, but I assume that's from where Chris' sarcastic posts stem.
And likewise, I don't really know if what's being described (releasing Nintendo software) really constitutes a plan or strategy for the system. Certainly not one that warrants such a ridiculous fiscal year forecast. It's sort of like saying a band-aid is a plan to treat a gaping flesh wound.
Iwata wanted to do bling flashes on a Nintendo Direct.
Still think their plan is to ride out the gen losing as little money as possible on Wii U and milking 3DS for all they can. That'd mean no price cut until they can reduce the cost of the system enough to compensate. PS3/Xbox level losses, this ain't gonna be. If the GamePad is the reason for this (like Blu-Ray was a major reason for PS3 losses early on), they should ditch it, if at all possible. Make it an optional accessory somehow. Probably can't, though, so it's just a matter of riding this gen out as long as they can before closing the books on this one and moving on. Maybe that eDRAM manufacturer place's closing will end up being well-timed. :lol
DarkLordMalik
Member
Dat God Eater hype!
Also i am not sure if it was posted or not but Mind Zero got a patch right after its release. It seems to me that they shipped a broken product at launch.
Mind≒0 Patch Reduces Load Times, Adds Cutscene Skipping