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Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2013 (Sep 23 - Sep 29)
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You are in for a rude awakening.
Immaculate
Banned
you just won't stop will you :lol
I just love my handhelds, if the 3DS was still in the same situation now, I would be defending them like the Vita.
IVE SEEN THE FUTURE AND OH IS IT BRIGHT
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Vita only has 6 games over 100k to Wii U's 4 despite being on shelves for over twice as long. The only new IPs to manage 100k on Vita are all heavily advertised Monster Hunter clones from major publishers, while only one Mario games did over 100k on Wii U so far.
Any even slight implication of health is entirely misplaced when it comes to both systems.
Bald Cleft
Banned
They'd never do it. Too much pride.
They'll limp to the four year mark and announce a successor.
That is low. I thought they would of shipped about 100k.
Nothing surprising about The Wind Waker HD. If Nintendo really saw that game as a potential system-seller in Japan, they'd have also released the bundle (like in the US and Europe), or have something special like the White Wii U for Pikmin 3. That show that even Nintendo knew it wouldn't sell too well. After all, 40-60% of the stocks sent to retailers were sold : they didn't overship the game like crazy, as opposed to Mario & Luigi RPG4 for example.
Youkai Watch got some surprisingly good legs. I believe the manga + anime is gonna do wonders for it. Looks like Level-5 got its new Inazuma Eleven, though I'm not sure it'll reach the same levels.
The Vita vs Wii U brawl in the gutter is really starting to get old. I'm surprised the Vita didn't get any bump at all.
Youkai Watch got some surprisingly good legs. I believe the manga + anime is gonna do wonders for it. Looks like Level-5 got its new Inazuma Eleven, though I'm not sure it'll reach the same levels.
The Vita vs Wii U brawl in the gutter is really starting to get old. I'm surprised the Vita didn't get any bump at all.
1st Course
Member
Source?
It doesn't quite work like this. Stores decide how much they want to order, it's not Nintendo forcing a predefined number of copies on them.
It was like 30% sold right? So they shipped 100K.
Should be less than half.
Remember this quote guys?
It is the perfect time for Zelda fans to discover Wii U. For many Zelda fans, this is the first time that theyll discover Wind Waker and were treating the game as a triple-A new release. Ocarina of Time 3D performed positively on Nintendo 3DS and were looking to replicate this success with The Wind Waker HD.
So much for their AAA game.
It is the perfect time for Zelda fans to discover Wii U. For many Zelda fans, this is the first time that theyll discover Wind Waker and were treating the game as a triple-A new release. Ocarina of Time 3D performed positively on Nintendo 3DS and were looking to replicate this success with The Wind Waker HD.
So much for their AAA game.
Bald Cleft
Banned
This quote had like nothing to do with the Japanese market. If Nintendo Japan thought this way, I assume we would have seen the same bundle.
If there's no demand how can Nintendo ship more? Shipments aren't an indication of how much the publisher expects a game to sell. Shipments are how many units a publisher can sell to retailers. Retailers can't return unsold stock in Japan.
Is ALBW 2013 in Japan? I thought it came out later there...
Home Zelda, maybe (even if SS did more that 300k, not 30 like this one), portable nope (OOT did gret numbers, as ST and PH did on the DS)
Don't know how ALBW will perform, tough, but to me is more: Wii U is dead. Not Zelda.
It's coming out in December.
Two months between it and Pokemon shouldn't be too close together I think.
NeonZ
Member
They added some new things, but they were mostly "fixes". You thought the sailing was slow? Here's fast sailing! You disliked the triforce quest? Here's a tweaked one with less money and treasures necessary for it! No extra dungeons or anything to add to the experience of people who already liked the game. They seemed to be just worried about people who disliked it which seems completely backwards to me.
Look at the extra content in Atlus ports of the SMT games for comparison - like the four extra days/endings in Devil Survivor for 3ds, or a new character and events spread throughout Persona 4 for Vita. And that's in addition to fixes similar to the ones given to WW HD and more extra content like demons/personas. If a company like Atlus could add meaningful extra content to their games, why can't Nintendo's Zelda team?
I've often read in sales threads that shipments are representative of how many copies publishers expect to sell. Is this not true? For example, there was a period where Level 5 was overshipping their games like hell. In that case it is retailers who misjudged consumer interest in those games and not Level 5 who misjudged?
Devilgunman
Member
Hmmm. not sure if MH4 can catch up with MHP3rd at this point. There will be a Christmas boost for sure but considering it will be selling next to PokeTON, I think many will choose Pokemon as a Christmas present instead of MH.
Also the current model Vita is reaching plateau at this point. Alternative color Vita will give a small bump but the real boost will come when Vita TV launch. If it still can't help Vita sustain 20K+ sale then that's the end of the Vita in Japan.
Also the current model Vita is reaching plateau at this point. Alternative color Vita will give a small bump but the real boost will come when Vita TV launch. If it still can't help Vita sustain 20K+ sale then that's the end of the Vita in Japan.
It's not always like this. Sometimes stores are forced to obey Ninty's order (and thus led to massive coup at PS1 era...)
spatenfloot
Member
You forget that those are retail only numbers. Vita sells quite a bit as digital sales which won't show up on the charts. Those digital sales numbers are probably the only reason they didn't abandon it.sörine;84331001 said:
SolarPowered
Member
How did Oreimo do better than Wind Waker? I don't feel so good.
MH4 is gonna coast right into 3 million soon enough.
Edit: Link didn't do squat for Wii U hardware numbers. Oh jeez
MH4 is gonna coast right into 3 million soon enough.
Edit: Link didn't do squat for Wii U hardware numbers. Oh jeez
Publishers sell games to retailers, and retailers sell games to consumers. Publishers can try to convince retailers into ordering more stock if there is heavy marketing and the game has good reviews in magazines. Retailers decide how much stock they want to order based on various factors - customer pre-orders, the level of hype they perceive the game to have, etc.
When a game is massively overshipped and fails to sell to expectations, it simply means the publisher overhyped their game, and the retailers fell for it. In the short term, this is a victory for the publisher because they already made the money selling the shipment to retailers and it's not their problem if it can't sell out. But in the long term, this means that retailers could be more careful when ordering games from the same publisher in future, even if the marketing is strong.
But the reverse is also possible where a publisher has expectations of selling much more, but is simply unable to convince retailers to order that many copies. Even if you want to sell 500k copes of a game, it doesn't mean you'll be able to ship that many.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Theres nothing wrong in finding your younger sister cute. The TV series iirc actually did not have an incestual ending but it has heavily implied. The LN and the last three episodes released on DVD iirc went full on with that "route" to appease a certain crowd lol.
Best LoH opening. Hopefully it will reach 200k and get localised
spatenfloot
Member
No, for PS4/vita it is just smaller indie type games. Second Son will not have a vita version, just the streaming ability from PS4.
Famousmortimer mentioned in another thread that Vita will be getting its own Infamous game.
Aquamarine
Member
Nintendo is like that around the world...all sales of their games are final as they utilize a firm sale process when dealing with inventory.
They put all of the risk on the retailers to move the product or suffer a write-down. As a result, the retailers are only going to order and display more products when initial orders sell-through. And since Wii U software sales have been very low, retailers are inherently hesitant about ordering large initial quantities of stock.
So, you get low initial shipments and smaller retail exposure.
Magicpaint
Member
Why do they have to choose? Why can't people get both in the biggest shopping period of the year? Remember the trinity from 2011? MH3G, MK7 and 3D Land.
Also I think the Vita TV might start well but I'm not convinced it has a consistent place in the market. I'd definitely prefer the new model to do well as opposed to the Vita TV which is just an odd product imo.
Canis lupus
Member
Bad week, Zelda, Wii U and Vita doing terrible, MH4 has nice legs.
But it had an incestual ending.
NeonZ
Member
You're probably thinking about its worldwide numbers, where even Skyward Sword outperformed it.
Sakura
Member
Zelda sales seem pretty normal to me. An enhanced port of a 10 year old game on a system with a tiny install base only sold 30k. What a surprise. When Nintendo was talking about WW being a system seller, I'm sure they were meaning in the places where the WW bundle exists. In Japan I imagine they expect their bundles at the end of the month to be what moves systems, not WW.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
IIRC the last three episodes with that ending were only released on DVD and not aired.
Enhanced port? DMC HD, SoTC Hd can be considered an enhanced port. This is more like a remake.
spatenfloot
Member
Yes, but it will not be the same as Second Son. Vita can't handle it. More of a AC:Liberation type thing I would imagine.
bigmit3737
Member
When is the bundle (ww Wiiu) coming out in the US?
They won't quit on the WiiU. They will have to ride it out
frankie_baby
Member
wii u numbers don't include digital either
Magicpaint
Member
It is more like an enhanced port with updated visuals. I mean it doesn't even have any new content and there are no major tweaks to the mechanics/presentation.
Well yeah, of course, that's the best part (i.e. getting an original entry).