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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2013 (Oct 07 - Oct 13)
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metalslimer
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Vita had the edge over Wii U regardless. The best thing Nintendo could hope for is winning the December sales battle and that would take a huge 3D World boost. It'll be interesting to see if 3D World can at least boost Wii U over 50k.
Don't forget Gundam Breaker Vita on the 31st of this month.
spatenfloot
Member
Well the WiiU did okay recently in Europe and US. Japan still doesn't care though.
How has the Vita been working the past year and a half? Just for comparisons sake.
The PSP version will definitely sell since still alive in Japan, but I don't think it will be a large chunk. The special God Eater 2 PSV 2000 model should help see to that.
metalslimer
Member
When did it do ok in either of those regions?
Sometimes we must set a barrier for these "pretty good" Vita software sales. MH4 will sell more than entire Vita software this year.
spatenfloot
Member
In Japan, the PSP's success is still holding the Vita back. Consumers and developers have been reluctant to move on to Vita. I think that might slowly change though next year.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Wut? Okay would be 80k+ at least in US.
metalslimer
Member
More the like the 3DS's dominance and mobile takeover is holding Vita back. The PSP has essentially been dead hardware wise this year. People are just choosing other options.
spatenfloot
Member
Only RELATIVELY. Okay is still not great.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Sales-Surge-685-Thanks-Wind-Waker-HD-Bundle-59870.html
metalslimer
Member
This is a percentage not a number. And the numbers could (probably are) still be terrible
We don't know yet for US, but we know it got better in the UK. It doesn't mean much, but when you're that bad, even a couple of sales are good.
Vita got a much better lineup for the end of the year and Wiiu is getting famous for making even his bigger games sell bad, but Wiiu's lineup is not that bad either. At least in the end of november/beginning of december we will see consistent releases.
spatenfloot
Member
Hardware sales are, yes. But PSP still gets lots of software releases, so people may not yet see a reason to upgrade. Once the software is Vita only rather than PSP version only or PSP/Vita, things might improve.
How much software do you think PSP has sold this year and what's the last big announcement it got?
encephalon
Member
Kiseki still managed to sell another 10k. The decision to support both platforms was clearly the right one.
Smoking that good stuff lol.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Playing with numbers a bit, saying if the WiiU sold 3500 a week in Europe, 685% would skyrocket sales to a modest 27.5K the next week. If it was 5000 a week, it would be 39250. Judging from what I remember, sales fell to a couple thousand shortly after launch, but I don't have the figures. Any estimates on Wii U weeklies in Europe? I know we used to get GFK/ChartTrack but did interest fade?
Pancakes R Us
Member
I think it's because of pretty much a lack of interest in the system full stop.
frankie_baby
Member
has anyone got the monster hunter vs every vita game ever graph?
spatenfloot
Member
I don't have the specifics on hand, but the PSP frequently has had more software titles in the top 20/50 than the Vita or WiiU.
How is listing future releases for a platform "list wars"?
This is relevant to the discussion in the thread. Please don't try to turn this into something it's not.
Because this is a list of Vita's releases for the rest of the year and Fifa is the next one to come out, maybe? He didn't rank them according to impact, you know.
Every single post of yours I see is anti-Sony. Calm down, dude.
Hasn't it already sold more than all Vita software ever or something?
Or maybe it was actually something like 1/2 or something.
That seems like a fairly odd way of looking at things. I think people take a slightly more relative view of things when they describe sales as 'good'.
I think we can probably class the general software sales as 'satisfactory' given that the support (although it's never been great) isn't drying up.
PSP will be down 3,5m at software this year, Vita will take only 1,5m of these. Next year PSP will be entirelly dead, when is this jump gonna happen?
spatenfloot
Member
It is hard for me to find any actual numbers from reputable sites. Most places don't have specifics. I think you are underestimating the sales a bit though for Europe.
Why would MH4 influence whether the sales of any other title are "pretty good"? I'd say a game's sales are "pretty good" if it made a profit.
spatenfloot
Member
We'll see a steady decline in hardware until November, but I think it could maintain 15k.
Don't you know? Comparing a struggling platform's sales to one of the most popular games in the region, like ever, is a great way to do it!
/snark
I Stalk Alone
Member
so ashamed they only had 2 million people lining up for them on the weekend. but i am not an expert on honour and shame.
Magicpaint
Member
He's probably talking about the general software ecosystem and I understand his point. Software sales on the Vita on an individual basis are usually good for the respective devs/publishers, but overall software sales are still really low with barely any big hitters and/or lasting presence in the Top 50 -- it is therefore a niche product and so general sales must be evaluated in the proper context. I mean N64, Saturn, Dreamcast and GC had pretty damn good sellers individually but no one calls the software sales overall particularly good as is often thrown around here for Vita.
I think when people say Vita software sales have been 'pretty good' they mean it relative to how the hardware is/was selling. Obviously having no title cross 500k in Japan means that Vita software sales are nowhere near good. They are satisfactory for those niche publishers that are on the Vita though, and they don't need 500k+ sales. That in itself creates a problem of not providing a hardware bumb.
Nah, it'll be up and down since Gundman has a bundle.
I think next week's Vita hardware sales are going to stay healthy, rather than crash back down to the 10k level. My guess is they will be in the 30~50k range. They dipped toward the end of the top 100 on Amazon JP soon after release, but over the past few days there has been a new surge with all models except the white/blue (which sold out days ago and is still out of stock) in the top 60 today (currently ranging from #33 to #59). This seems to be due to good word-of-mouth about the new system, which, unlike many uninformed posters here would have you believe, is quite a substantial upgrade over the 1000 model in nearly every way, and is not simply a cheapo model with an LCD screen. I know this because I have both a 1000 and 2000 Vita, and after getting my 2000 and comparing it in detail with the 1000, I never want to touch the 1000 again. I imagine many Japanese consumers feel the same way. So, I think the Vita sales will stay healthy throughout the year in part due to current 1000 owners upgrading to the 2000, as well as due to new buyers (such as PSP owners) jumping in on the new model due to the good word-of-mouth and all the upcoming releases.
The Abominable Snowman
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*sorry for OT Euro sales talk. I might be wrong*
Hmm. The link you posted answered my question. I didn't underestimate at all. I overestimated.
The Article From Your Link said:
Clicking that links you to
And according to those numbers released from Nintendo
Lets say 3-month sales doubled next quarter in Europe due to Pikmin. 20K/3 months = 6.7K/month. Divided by 4 weeks gives you 1.7K. 4.5 weeks nets you less than 1.5K average over the 3 months.
Or even lets triple it for shits and giggles. It'll be between 2.2K and 2.5K.
So theoretically if the Wii U did a bit over triple its sales, it could've reached about 20K for the week of Zelda where its sales exploded by 685%.
airmangataosenai
Member
That's kind of the way it's always been here. Fanboyism influences discussion here far too much so you have to be careful how you interpret things like that.
That's a good point but would it really have caused such a major shift... For 1gb memory? 30x it boosted.
Sony must have stepped up the ads for the new model for a few weeks now. Painting it in a much better light or something. Actually you could be right since sony bothered to include it anyway. Maybe people really really didn't want to buy a 4gb card on top of the vita.. *bleeps*
very confusing...frankie_baby
Member
doesn't force you to buy one straight away, 1gb wont last anyone long
Frankfurter
Member
These are official shipment figures from Nintendo. I.e. extrapolating (retail) sales from these is pretty much impossible (for the short term). We know that Nintendo overshipped, so it's pretty likely (to say the least) that they actually sold through more than they shipped in that quarter.
It's gradually happening.
If I recall correctly, early this year Sowrd Art Online released on PSP. The sequel now announced exclusively to Vita, while they could have develop it as a multiplatform release PSP/PSVita. Same thing can be said for PS:Nova.
Similarly, Danganronpa spin off moved to vita while also suggesting that development of 3 already started.
I can guess that Toukiden 2 already started development after the success of the first one, and I won't be surprised if it's Vita exclusive in 2014.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Ah so thats shipment. My bad.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Wii U numbers make me sad, but the Vita bump makes me hopeful that it can reach its potential as the super Japan machine it always had the capability to be.
Like the Vita, the WiiU will find it's place in the market.
Hey, at least it has a 100% of outselling the X1 there! lel