I walked into a Geo that had both models in stock all last week, and then finally picked a wifi one up Saturday @ 1am. When I returned the next morning to buy a game (LoA) both the wifi model and the gam were sold out. Wonder if they shipped more 3G models thinking the hype would sell them even at the higher price.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)
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I walked into a Geo that had both models in stock all last week, and then finally picked a wifi one up Saturday @ 1am. When I returned the next morning to buy a game (LoA) both the wifi model and the gam were sold out. Wonder if they shipped more 3G models thinking the hype would sell them even at the higher price.
XIII-2 showing some legs this week isn't so unexpected.
2009 51 {2009.12.14 - 2009.12.20} 01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 1.501.964 / 1.501.964
2009 52 {2009.12.21 - 2009.12.27} 04. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 188.511 / 1.690.475
2009 53 {2009.12.28 - 2010.01.03} 04. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 111.705 / 1.802.181
2010 01 {2010.01.04 - 2010.01.10} 06. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 41.663 / 1.843.844
2010 02 {2010.01.11 - 2010.01.17} 12. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 03 {2010.01.18 - 2010.01.24} 25. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 04 {2010.01.25 - 2010.01.31} 37. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 05 {2010.02.01 - 2010.02.07} 46. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
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2010 47 {2010.11.22 - 2010.11.28} 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 0 / 1.903.186
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2010 52 {2010.12.27 - 2011.01.02} 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 0 / 1.906.255
2009 51 {2009.12.14 - 2009.12.20} 01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 1.501.964 / 1.501.964
2009 52 {2009.12.21 - 2009.12.27} 04. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 188.511 / 1.690.475
2009 53 {2009.12.28 - 2010.01.03} 04. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 111.705 / 1.802.181
2010 01 {2010.01.04 - 2010.01.10} 06. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 41.663 / 1.843.844
2010 02 {2010.01.11 - 2010.01.17} 12. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 03 {2010.01.18 - 2010.01.24} 25. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 04 {2010.01.25 - 2010.01.31} 37. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
2010 05 {2010.02.01 - 2010.02.07} 46. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17}
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2010 47 {2010.11.22 - 2010.11.28} 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 0 / 1.903.186
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2010 52 {2010.12.27 - 2011.01.02} 00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) {2009.12.17} - 0 / 1.906.255
bigtroyjon
Member
I would guess they shipped more 3g models because they can only afford to sell a certain percentage at $250, similar to how they limited the supply of the cheaper PS3's at launch.
Even the people that brought us $599 can't be that clueless to think that the Vita would sell out at the current pricing after what happened with the 3DS.
3DS basically sold through its initial shipment first week and had a strong second week.
3DS didn't launch against a 15000Y competitor and 3 million selling games. That's why he is saying that Sony is pretty delusional trying to sell more 30000Y models now, with no memory card included, after the 3DS had a not so great launch period.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
30+ million DS owners who don't have it yet
With a game like Mario Kart DS, I think it's more the case that it was rarely very out of the Top 50. I mean, it even popped up into the Famitsu Top 30 earlier in 2011.
Yes, it's true :lol
Week 18 {2011.05.02 - 2011.05.08}
1 [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 Professional (Square Enix) - 33.713 / 382.741 31/03/11
2 [PSP] Patapon 3 (SCE) - 19.424 / 68.913 28/04/11
3 [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) - 18.547 / 140.847 14/04/11
4 [PSP] Final Promise Story (Image Epoch) - 18.009 / 75.032 28/04/11
5 [PS3] El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (Ignition) - 11.219 / 57.127 28/04/11
6 [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) - 11.049 / 143.182 14/04/11
7 [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen (Bandai Namco) - 10.565 / 347.789 14/04/11
8 [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 10.074 / 3.151.346 10/04/08
9 [NDS] Battle & Get! Pokemon Typing DS (Pokemon Co.) - 9.301 / 89.965 03/02/11
10 [3DS] Nintendogs + cats (Nintendo) - 8.547 / 217.510 26/02/11
11 [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) - 8.078 / 5.184.266 18/09/10
12 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 7.916 / 1.861.221 08/07/10
13 [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) - 7.381 / 4.421.715 01/12/10
14 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 7.148 / 4.228.116 03/12/09
15 [3DS] Pilotwings: Resort (Nintendo) - 6.832 / 52.056 14/04/11
16 [NDS] Detective Conan: Aoki Houseki no Rinbukyoku (Bandai Namco) - 6.175 / 30.548 21/04/11
17 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 5.878 / 6.130.048 25/05/06
18 [PSP] Final Fantasy IV: Complete Collection (Square Enix) - 5.472 / 176.336 24/03/11
19 [PSP] Earth Defense Force 2 Portable (D3 Publisher) - 5.382 / 88.162 07/04/11
20 [3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracles (Level 5) - 5.086 / 282.179 26/02/11
21 [PSP] GachiTora! Abarenbou Kyoushi in High School (Spike) - 4.651 / 25.622 21/04/11
22 [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) - 4.411 / 917.204 09/12/10
23 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! The Ogre (Level 5) - 4.404 / 421.862 16/12/10
24 [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 4.377 / 2.291.342 09/12/10
25 [PS3] SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs 4 (SCE) - 4.352 / 27.223 21/04/11
26 [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 4.313 / 2.239.951 01/10/09
27 [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki [Everyone's Recommendation Selection] (Hudson) - 4.238 / 59.246 20/01/11
28 [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (PSP The Best) (Konami) - 3.970 / 26.796 24/02/11
29 [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) - 3.867 / 3.775.327 08/12/05
30 [PSP] Persona 2: Innocent Sin (Atlus Co.) - 3.858 / 82.266 31/03/11
SE & Nibris crossover.
First info from December suggests a similar explosion in Europe and especially America. In the end it's a matter of software. If there are games people want to play on them handhelds will survive. Either way they never dominated in west the way they dominate in Japan and this won't change.
One question: who did Xillia? What Tales of team? Is it possible to see this year another main entry? I'm wondering if they'll skip this year, since there's no news at all about it, and last year we already knew the name for the next Tales of, after a 4 months countdown :lol
Xillia was mainly by people who made Hearts and Vesperia, IIRC.
They're supposed to announce the next Tales games after Innocence/Twin Brave in June at the Tales of Festival, maybe before then. No way they'll go a year without more Tales games!
-Pyromaniac-
Member
after the super success of xillia you think they are going to skip one? awww hellz naw bro.
FateBreaker
Member
Xillia took 3 years to make. So...there's got to be another team, or Xillia-2. Plus, the teams are merged now.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I'm sure they're still divided on what they work on though. So they've probably been working on the next one for a while now.
Eh, 43k 3 years almost 4 years after its debut. Legs, legs and legs. And it seems MK7 is followings his father's steps
[NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) - 224.411 / 3.837.894 / 6,05% 08/12/05
[SFC] Super Mario Kart (Nintendo) - / 3.820.000 27/08/92
[WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 608.147 / 3.298.179 / 18,44% 10/04/08
[N64] Mario Kart 64 (Nintendo) - 160.363 / 1.711.661 / 9,37% 14/12/96
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 451.932 / 1.082.391 / 41,75% 01/12/11
[GBA] Mario Kart: Super Circuit (Nintendo) - 261.797 / 938.175 / 27,90% 21/07/01
[GCN] Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Nintendo) - 179.230 / 825.894 / 21,70% 07/11/03
I keep forgetting how big the original Super Mario Kart was and assume that the crazy sales started with MK DS. Still impressive that it finally managed to outsell it though
Xillia was mainly by people who made Hearts and Vesperia, IIRC.
They're supposed to announce the next Tales games after Innocence/Twin Brave in June at the Tales of Festival, maybe before then. No way they'll go a year without more Tales games!
If they announce it for this year, then we have THE PS3 game for 2012.
...Unless they announce it for another platform...
I wouldn't be surprised if they did, it's Namco after all.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
they seem to enjoy jumping, I don't see it ever going on 360 again though (at least exclusively). My bet is Wii-U, second bet is PS3, 3rd bet is for a handheld.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Probably an expanded Xillia for Wii U launch window. Tales fans already pointed out the beta-positioning in the PS3 version where 2 extra characters would slot in.
...Oh, really?
And after Tales of Graces F, Tales of Xillia U!
This, or a brand new main for PS3 or 3DS. Not both this year, however.
I can see them porting Xillia to Vita. I'd rather they made a Xillia 2 on Vita or something, but this is Scamco.
The next mainline Tales has likely been in development since 2009 or 2010, so I don't think it's likely to be a Wii U game (at least not exclusively), and I'm not sure how enthusiastic they are about doing mainline games for handhelds nowadays. I think it's a pretty safe bet that the next mainline game will be on the PS3, exclusive or not.
An Xillia Director's Cut is possible, maybe even likely/guaranteed based on recent info. That's the most I could see them putting on the Wii U, though I figured that would also be something for the PS3.
If they're making it, Radiant Mythology 4 should also be around in late 2012/early 2013. It'll be interesting to see if they'll stick with Sony and go with the PSP/Vita, or make the jump to Nintendo's handheld.
An Xillia Director's Cut is possible, maybe even likely/guaranteed based on recent info. That's the most I could see them putting on the Wii U, though I figured that would also be something for the PS3.
If they're making it, Radiant Mythology 4 should also be around in late 2012/early 2013. It'll be interesting to see if they'll stick with Sony and go with the PSP/Vita, or make the jump to Nintendo's handheld.
...But now, thinking better about Namco's policy with Tales of, they've never ported the newest installments from the console where the game can sell more due to the one where it sell less.
Symphonia passed from Gamecube to PS2, Vesperia from 360 to PS3, Graces from Wii to PS3.
So, it isn't so obvious seein a Xillia U / V. At least this year. And there's always a possibility that all brings to Xillia DC ( Director's Cut)
Symphonia passed from Gamecube to PS2, Vesperia from 360 to PS3, Graces from Wii to PS3.
So, it isn't so obvious seein a Xillia U / V. At least this year. And there's always a possibility that all brings to Xillia DC ( Director's Cut)
It'll still be doomed, 'cos that "better than 72k" will be less than the PSP numbers.
I hope it does better than 72k or else I'm just going to be blissfully ignorant of Vita's sales for a good year or so.
IIRC, this week is weaker for all systems than week 51.
Yeah, everything should be down this week from last. Then up again next week, but not as high as week 51.
pharmboy044
Member
Unfortunately I don't see the sales increasing this week.
Honestly I still have a hard time understand Namco's strategy with their Tales games. At this point, why not make them multiplat from the get-go? It works pretty well for other series.
I don't see it happening, Week 52 is generally a quieter week than 51. The only reason it would go up would be if it was supply constrained, and I don't think that's the case. I expect something around 50k.
I don't see it happening, Week 52 is generally a quieter week than 51. The only reason it would go up would be if it was supply constrained, and I don't think that's the case. I expect something around 50k.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Handhelds tend to get direct ports. If Xillia Vita happens, it'll just be that. If it's Xillia f it'll be Wii U or PS3.
That's too bad. So if all hardware is expected to sell less, and the vita goes on to sell less that'd just be par for the course.
Good analysis! Yep, that's probably it with New Year's money being spent the next day when shops are open again. Therefore, this year should be very standard, since Jan. 1 is on a Sunday, and Jan. 2 starts a new week.
If it's like 50K or above, yeah. Anything lower could still be raising eyebrows, though. 72K for this week was just out of left field.
Making them multiplatform from the get-go would actually get them less sales though.
Did FF13 have a BEST release? I'm pretty sure Square would have one. So what is the total sales of the title, cause I didn't realize that the original release hit the 1.9mil mark...lol
Apparently it did back in July on PS3 and 360, but it didn't make the MC Top 50 that week.
I thought about this as well but Namco has stated that the extra content couldn't be fitted into the PS3 version. If it is indeed space related going from 50 GB to 25 GB might not be feasible.
On the other hand they might just be creating a pretense for the expected rerelease, whereever they plan to put it. Maybe looking at the Xilia Blu-ray might give an indication for what the actual reason is.
electroplankton
Banned
I think an International Version came out on 360 last summer, but it did only 15k or so.
Would it really be that dramatic? Xillia sold nearly as well as Graces + Graces F combined didn't it?
charlequin
Banned
What could possibly possess even Namco to release the expanded version of Xillia on anything but PS3? I mean I'm honestly confused about this entire conversation, I can't even start to see a reason they'd give WiiU a chance here.
Well, that's definitely bullshit on their part, as I am sure we will discover when the expanded PS3 version comes out with extra content and nothing cut out or reduced in quality.
Well, that's definitely bullshit on their part, as I am sure we will discover when the expanded PS3 version comes out with extra content and nothing cut out or reduced in quality.
Looking at the Blu-ray it could be confirmed/disproved now. Someone with the game and a Blu-ray drive on their PC could check.
It's 6GB.
It would decrease the importance of the entry, making it sell less than what it would sell only on PS3, at this point, IMHO.
If the team has maintained the separations, a brand new main Tales of should happen. Where?
1) PS3: 600k+ copies of Xillia aren't a message that cryptic to understand
But there'a another possibility
2) 3DS: IIRC, Abyss was announced in September 2010, right? So, Tales of teams should have 3DS dev kits from more than a year...considering this next entry would be released at least at the end of Q3, that would be 2 years of development, which sounds right for a well-developed entry on a handled. And it would be the right time to release it, seeing how well 3DS is doing and should do even this year.
About when datas will come, I hope that, as happened last week, we'll get everything in time.
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I have a feeling the US will get the director's cut of Xillia... And the next Tales game will be by the Destiny team.
Thing is, Tales of Xillia is less than 8 GB on PS3. Even less than Tales of Graces f.
Thing is, Tales of Xillia is less than 8 GB on PS3. Even less than Tales of Graces f.
It would decrease the importance of the entry, making it sell less than what it would sell only on PS3, at this point, IMHO.
If the team has maintained the separations, a brand new main Tales of should happen. Where?
1) PS3: 600k+ copies of Xillia aren't a message that cryptic to understand
But there'a another possibility
2) 3DS: IIRC, Abyss was announced in September 2010, right? So, Tales of teams should have 3DS dev kits from more than a year...considering this next entry would be released at least at the end of Q3, that would be 2 years of development, which sounds right for a well-developed entry on a handled. And it would be the right time to release it, seeing how well 3DS is doing and should do even this year.
About when datas will come, I hope that, as happened last week, we'll get everything in time.
It's probably difficult to come up with a truly correct answer, but which scenario would make Namco more money?
1) Selling 600K+ copies on PS3
or
2) Selling 300K+ copies on 3DS
Bare in mind the cost of development etc.
slaughterking
Member
Xillia looks like it might as well be an enhanced 3DS port, so number 1 is certainly preferable.
Given how Tales of Xillia looks, along with the amount of art assets they already have done, I don't think these would actually be all that different.
Edit: Beaten. :lol