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Mediterranean diet shown to have major health benefits

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Nemesis_

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This is somewhat related, but are sun dried tomato good for you? Or at least, healthy?

Everything I discover that I seem to absolutely LOVE seems to bad bad for me ;_;
 

Tenks

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I suppose you would need to take into account portion size differences between the US and Sweden though. I don't doubt that you possibly could keep a healthy weight on just McDonald's, but I can't imagine doing it in the US. Price could also factor into it too.

There is a documentary on Prime streaming called "Fat Head" which is a follow up to Super Size Me where the guy lost weight on an McD diet. It was a fun watch. Not sure how true the facts are and all that since it was just as biased as Super Size Me.
 

Zoe

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There is a documentary on Prime streaming called "Fat Head" which is a follow up to Super Size Me where the guy lost weight on an McD diet. It was a fun watch. Not sure how true the facts are and all that since it was just as biased as Super Size Me.

Isn't the point basically that there's both good and bad food at fast food restaurants, you just have to make smart choices? The Super Size Me guy had ridiculous rules such as trying every single thing on the menu and getting Super Size whenever asked.
 

Fritz

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Do Americans really need strict plans and their intake of everything broken down to numbers to figure out what healthy eating habits are? Because all these threads on GAF and all the discussions about what the only correct diet is sure make it sound like it.
 

Evlar

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Do Americans really need strict plans and their intake of everything broken down to numbers to figure out what healthy eating habits are? Because all these threads on GAF and all the discussions about what the only correct diet is sure make it sound like it.
Why do you assume GAFfers posting in those threads are American?
 

Futureman

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Do Americans really need strict plans and their intake of everything broken down to numbers to figure out what healthy eating habits are? Because all these threads on GAF and all the discussions about what the only correct diet is sure make it sound like it.

it's not an American thing, shitty processed foods and fat people are all over the world now.
 

Fritz

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Why do you assume GAFfers posting in those threads are American?

because

1. American study in American newspaper, and

2. I know most of the people posting on the first page are from the US.

3. Same goes for most of the "diet" threads on GAF.
 
yeah, i'm from Portugal. every other meal is a variation of fish with salad sprinkled with olive oil and vinegar, with fruit as dessert. it's also dirt cheap around here.

sardine, tuna, cod, mackerel, octopus, cuttlefish, shrimp, snails, crabs, eels, etc. if it comes from the sea (or close enough), we eat it.

it's good for you, bros.
 

ToxicAdam

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Do Americans really need strict plans and their intake of everything broken down to numbers to figure out what healthy eating habits are? Because all these threads on GAF and all the discussions about what the only correct diet is sure make it sound like it.


From 1980 to 2008, according to the World Health Organization, worldwide obesity rates almost doubled. A recent study in the Lancet medical journal concluded that in 2008, about 146 million adults globally were overweight and 502 million were obese. Around half of the adult population in Brazil, Russia, and South Africa are overweight and about 8 percent of all African adults are obese. According to the Lancet study, the worldwide health cost attributable to obesity and its consequences added up to 36 million disability-adjusted life-years (a measure of healthy years of life lost to a disease).

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-04/the-global-obesity-bomb
 
Good thing I love foods like this regardless. I eat fish several times a week, in fact I have some salmon in the oven right now to go with a salad, but then I worry about mercury poison. Always gotta be a fucking crutch to everything.
 
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I'm Portuguese and I can't stand the Olive Oil obsession.
I only like it in smal, small, small doses.

Too much of it is like drowning in it
 

tirant

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i mix mediterranean with paleo, and couldnt feel better. I even lost wait and gain some muscles without doing any exercise.
 
I really try to focus on eating to most of the foods on the diet but since I have a shellfish allergy, all I can really eat is fish but also have to be careful on how it's prepared.

So yeah, basically all of these 'beneficial diets' don't help people who have certain allergies.

Just eating fresh versus convenience will certainly help you go a long ways overall.
 

Zzoram

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Personal anecdote: I'm a type-2 diabetic with hypertension. Around November I weighed about 300 lbs and had to take both oral/injection medication to manage my blood sugar, and blood pressure meds for the hypertension.

I entered a program/diet designed to focus on healthy eating habits so that you'd retain them well after the diet had ended. Mediterranean food is a pretty significant part of the diet
(in that most food you prepare is fresh, low-carb, and prepared with olive oil, and if you can't resist eating out then going to a greek/lebanese resturant is a solid and safe option).

Around week 1 I didn't lose any weight, but had to stop taking the injection meds.

Week 2 I lost 6 lbs and had to stop taking the oral medication(diabetic).

It's late February now, and my primary care doctor says that after he gets the latest test results processed that I'll probably be good to stop taking the blood pressure medication. I weigh 244lbs now, and it's very likely I will be 100% prescription-med-free in the next few days.

(Still on the diet; aiming for somewhere around 200-220 before I stop)

That's the kind of mentality that leads to failure. If you eat a Mediterranean diet and it dramatically improves your health, you don't just stop and go back to eating shit. That would just ruin your health again.

Stick with it.
 

Tenks

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Isn't the point basically that there's both good and bad food at fast food restaurants, you just have to make smart choices? The Super Size Me guy had ridiculous rules such as trying every single thing on the menu and getting Super Size whenever asked.

Yes and no. He wasn't eating grilled chicken salads from McD or anything like that. He'd eat a double cheeseburger. Basically he just wouldn't eat french fries and he went over the science of how french fries are basically poison if you're trying to lose weight since it is a one-two punch of fat and carb.
 
Like you said, it sounds like your diet has some elements of the classic Mediterranean Diet, but being low-carb is not one of them.

This is what the Mediterranean Diet looks like, at least the one your family doctor, dietician, or other HCP is likely to give you:

e: as a diabetic it makes sense they would modify your diet to be lower carb than the Mediterranean Diet would call for.

Like you said, it just has some valuable elements taken from the diet rather than being the actual diet proper. And you're also correct in that there was a modification to limit carbs because of my condition. It felt like a subject I could connect with, but maybe my anecdote may not be the best sort of supporting example.

That's the kind of mentality that leads to failure. If you eat a Mediterranean diet and it dramatically improves your health, you don't just stop and go back to eating shit. That would just ruin your health again.

Stick with it.

That's not what I meant by stopping, but thanks for the encouragement. I have no plans to just turn around and start eating what got me there in the first place; I'm pretty comfortable cooking my own food this way now, it flat out tastes better and is more satisfying compared to average fastfood, and it saves me a great deal of money.

I'm more referring to stuff like being able to eat nuts and cheese again, tbh; stuff that would be fine when I'm at the point where I want to maintain a target weight, but holds up progress when it comes to maintaining weight loss.
 

dojokun

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And did the NYC government get their hands on these findings before the public did? Nope. Public has the same info. Just sayin'.
 

Ether_Snake

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Like you said, it sounds like your diet has some elements of the classic Mediterranean Diet, but being low-carb is not one of them.

This is what the Mediterranean Diet looks like, at least the one your family doctor, dietician, or other HCP is likely to give you:
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e: as a diabetic it makes sense they would modify your diet to be lower carb than the Mediterranean Diet would call for.

WAT

This is wrong.

When I spent a month in Greece, I had practically no grain except restaurant bread. A bit of pasta once. It's a lot of seafood (mainly fish, a bit of octopus), vegetables, olive oil, meat, some dairy, a bit of grain. Oh, and a glass of alcohol. Meat monthly? That's crazy.

Grain was really not high at ALL on the list of things consumed, in fact in the meals themselves it was pretty much non-existent outside of occasional pasta/moussaka/etc.
 

Movement

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What, in the fish, could I get via other means? I'm vegetarian and already eat the other components if this diet.
Fish Oil?
 
Like you said, it sounds like your diet has some elements of the classic Mediterranean Diet, but being low-carb is not one of them.

This is what the Mediterranean Diet looks like, at least the one your family doctor, dietician, or other HCP is likely to give you:
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e: as a diabetic it makes sense they would modify your diet to be lower carb than the Mediterranean Diet would call for.

Chicken weekly and red meat monthly? I'd rather die. Also that is a suspicious amount of grainn at the bottom. Cut fout the white bread and processed shit and then its solid. Also cheese every day? Dont mind if I do.
 

akira28

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cool. so make me a mediterranian meal every day. That shit's hard to get all the ingredients yourself. Fish is expensive as fuck.
 

Shagwell

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cool. so make me a mediterranian meal every day. That shit's hard to get all the ingredients yourself. Fish is expensive as fuck.

Whaat? That really depends on what kind of fish you're buying. Tilapia and salmon can be pretty damn cheap I think.
 

Ether_Snake

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Whaat? That really depends on what kind of fish you're buying. Tilapia and salmon can be pretty damn cheap I think.

Tilapia taste like wet newspaper though:(

Salmon is great with hoisin sauce, ginger and sriracha!
 

Kanyon

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Looks like I'm going to be okay, sometimes it's good to be a Greek and enjoy the finer things in life such as olive oil, fetta cheese, haloumi and lamb spits.
 

Eric C

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What, in the fish, could I get via other means? I'm vegetarian and already eat the other components if this diet.
Fish Oil?

Fish Oil is usually taken for both it's DHA and EPA content

You can take something like Flaxseed oil or rapeseed oil or something else that has Alpha Linolenic Acid(ALA) your body can convert the ALA to EPA and DHA... well mostly EPA, humans seem to be inefficient at converting to DHA

You can get DHA from an algae source, same place most of the fish get it from in the first place. They sell algae based DHA supplements lots of places now, I've seen them at CVS and Walgreens.

http://www.cvs.com/shop/product-detail/CVS-Algal-900-DHA-Softgels?skuId=474135

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/fi...ry-supplement-softgels/ID=prod4118057-product

Those brands use gelatin capsules though.
 

akira28

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Whaat? That really depends on what kind of fish you're buying. Tilapia and salmon can be pretty damn cheap I think.

Tilapia actually is made of wet newspaper.

Salmon is also pretty expensive. The only cheap fish seems to be catfish, or perch or flounder. I don't consider swai to even be fish.
 

Movement

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Fish Oil is usually taken for both it's DHA and EPA content

You can take something like Flaxseed oil or rapeseed oil or something else that has Alpha Linolenic Acid(ALA) your body can convert the ALA to EPA and DHA... well mostly EPA, humans seem to be inefficient at converting to DHA

You can get DHA from an algae source, same place most of the fish get it from in the first place. They sell algae based DHA supplements lots of places now, I've seen them at CVS and Walgreens.

http://www.cvs.com/shop/product-detail/CVS-Algal-900-DHA-Softgels?skuId=474135

http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/fi...ry-supplement-softgels/ID=prod4118057-product

Those brands use gelatin capsules though.

Thank you for this.
 
Losing weight diet is not always the same as a healthy diet nor is it always sign of a healthy diet.
I wish people would stop confusing the two.

Also, stop taking supplements. Those are only beneficial if you are deficient, say for instance vitamin D during the winter or if you are old. A good diet takes care of that.
 

maxxpower

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The lower down the food chain the animal is, the safer they are to eat, as mercury accumulates from prey to predator as it works its way up. Things like salmon and sardines can be eaten to your heart's content, whereas tuna shouldn't ideally be eaten more than once or twice a week, and top-level predators like dolphin (ok, pretty sure that one's outright illegal to eat :p) and shark are chock full of mercury.

This is ignoring other concerns, of course, like overfishing (for sushi, tasty tasty sushi) leading to depletion of bluefin tuna stocks and likely extinction of the species. In that regard, too, sardines are a nice choice, as is Alaskan salmon. Both have goodly amounts of omega 3s as well and are my preferred fish for all of the above reasons.

Shit, I have a can of sardines that I've been avoiding eating. I'm not too fond of sardines, but they sure are better than tuna.
 

Ether_Snake

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Tilapia actually is made of wet newspaper.

Salmon is also pretty expensive. The only cheap fish seems to be catfish, or perch or flounder. I don't consider swai to even be fish.

Smelts and sardines are cheap. Ate that often in Greece. Fried sardines is so good!

Mercury is also low.
 
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