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I was going to give Elon the benefit of the doubt until I saw this picture of him backstage right before his speech and now I stand with the brave Redditors:

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If he realized what it looked like and tried to turn it into something else then that's a strong mitigating factor. It's not a hard gesture to accidentally do as evidenced by the numerous videos posted. The guy is clearly physically awkward and has likely never played a sport in his life, so he probably has no body awareness and likely doesn't even know how to physically celebrate something (see his embarrassing jumping up and down at the Trump rally). I dislike the guy, but trying to cancel him over this is a bit much.AOC: did she throw her hand from her chest to the air with a straight hand? No.
Walz: already posted and responded to, palm is wide open.
Other walz: just a picture.
You guys are just discussing in bad faith, you can clearly see the difference yourselves.
You have 0 vids where any of the people you hate do it like Elon or Adolf himself. Pathetic attempts and not worth it to de engage in this bs any further.
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lol 'my heart goes out to you'. More like ' Oh shit did I just do that, gotta save face' next up 'hes got autism' lol.
No response to the reply on your bs vids from before and just posting other trash? keep trying.
I just checked yesterday how are they doing - they have separate thread for every single EO or minute detail of what Trump does, it's exhausting. Then inside it's just endless posts of people being shocked, looking for allies, etc., without adding anything of substance to the discussion. It's a perfect echo chamber.I think the idea of no politics here is quite good - it has made Resetera etc part of the forum completely unusable.
Good. Never really understood why one social media links to other social media and you're required to have accounts accross on all of them.
Does the forth member only have legs and torso without a head?"A moderator on r/pcgaming, a subreddit with 3.8 members, said the community has contemplated the ban on X links for some time, adding "X has become increasingly hateful, toxic and less and less moderated."
PC gaming hitting the big time. Also showing their inclusivity of people who had their shins blown off by a tojo machine gun.
Does the forth member only have legs and torso without a head?
If someone claims something, don't you want to know they're backing it up with a source? News never gets broken on reddit but it most often does on twitter.Good. Never really understood why one social media links to other social media and you're required to have accounts accross on all of them.
They are Digging their own grave!Reddit about to die like Digg did.
I hope they are at least getting paid to post shit excuses like that.Lets compare vids of these instead of a picture. How can anyone approve of what Elon did... I hate woke stuff and people as much as the next sane guy, but Elon's greeting was waaaay worse than all of these.
Pathetic attempt at trying to disregard his disgusting behaviour, even if hes got weaponised autism.
And TikTok. Can we go back to just having Facebook? I don't use it, but still. Simpler times.
Yeah you are.We're not the ones doing that.
BlueSky's top accounts are Mark Hamill, George Takei, Mark Cuban, and AOC. What a great, interesting, and completely unbiased platform that I'm sure is 100% free of censorship.I think the idea of no politics here is quite good - it has made Resetera etc part of the forum completely unusable.
Also BlueSky has nothing interesting anyway - all the news and information can be found on X anyway.
Presenting reality against agenda driven internet hoaxes is not arguing in bad faith.Yeah you are.
What's the hoax?Presenting reality against agenda driven internet hoaxes is not arguing in bad faith.
Just a bunch of people who have become "salute truthers". But yeah, USA has a mental crisis. Keep in mind that some people literally wanted to neuter themselves post election.I saw all these Nazi salute pics and complains about Elon on X and Reddit the other day. None of the posts I looked at had the video or any context. Just a snap shot. To confirm, I looked up the video to see for myself. My honest opinion, keep in mind I'm no Nazi history fanatic, is that stating your heart goes out to a group of people while pounding on your heart and throwing your arm out might be one of the least "Nazi" things I've ever seen. You either need to be ignorant, acting in bad faith, or a special kind of mental problem to think this is a Nazi salute.
What's the hoax?
Ahh but "Nazis" are saying it's a Nazi salute! And we all know that agreeing with the thoughts and words of Nazis is the thing to do.I saw all these Nazi salute pics and complains about Elon on X and Reddit the other day. None of the posts I looked at had the video or any context. Just a snap shot. To confirm, I looked up the video to see for myself. My honest opinion, keep in mind I'm no Nazi history fanatic, is that stating your heart goes out to a group of people while pounding on your heart and throwing your arm out might be one of the least "Nazi" things I've ever seen. You either need to be ignorant, acting in bad faith, or a special kind of mental problem to think this is a Nazi salute.
It can be argued that the clip was edited to summarise, showing number of times the gesture was made as opposed to editing out the context which most people don't even believe to be relevant. He still did the gestures and that is the point of contention for most.Deliberately editing context out of a video so it fits your narrative makes it a hoax.
The funny part is that the more left is doing that, the more they will normalize it - if everything is nazi, there are no nazis.The good news out of all this is that being called a Nazi is still a smear.![]()
Bullshit. They edited out the context because with it their argument is bullshit.It can be argued that the clip was edited to summarise, showing number of times the gesture was made as opposed to editing out the context which most people don't even believe to be relevant. He still did the gestures and that is the point of contention for most.
You can call it bullshit all you want. The context still doesn't satisfy most including myself. The gesture was still made and that is what people don't like. It isn't a hoax and you can't spin the narrative this way because it is fact that the gesture he made was one that strikingly resembles a Nazi salute.Bullshit. They edited out the context because with it their argument is bullshit.
Funny how that doesn't seem to be true.Anyone who makes a gesture like that in the real world, in public, in a work place etc, would be viewed the same way.
I don't think there is a single human being left on reddit, it honestly feels like a psyop made up of bot farms.The website where everyone has the exact same writing style, shitty meme focused humor and their wives all have boyfriends.
No big deal, hopefully X block Reddit links.
Funny how that doesn't seem to be true.
Beware of the reddit brigade
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As a society, we have arbitrarily chosen to stigmatize certain things tied to the Nazis. For example: the toothbrush mustache is pretty much banned because it will be taken as an ode to Hitler even though it was a popular mustache at the time that many people wore, including Charlie Chaplin. One of those things is a Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is relatively unique, but it's not like someone having a tattoo of a swastika. There are many gestures that have people put their hand to their heart and then wave. It's not out of the realm of possibility someone could stumble into doing such a gesture.You can call it bullshit all you want. The context still doesn't satisfy most including myself. The gesture was still made and that is what people don't like. It isn't a hoax and you can't spin the narrative this way because it is fact that the gesture he made was one that strikingly resembles a Nazi salute.
Anyone who makes a gesture like that in the real world, in public, in a work place etc, would be viewed the same way. The only arguments being made to defend this is that he is autistic, he didn't mean it, he was sharing love, there is an agenda against him, all sound like nonsense to me.
I just wonder if this constant need to defend a single person from any and all accountable actions and words, to the point where they are now being infantilized, is the best strategy in the end.Anyone who makes a gesture like that in the real world, in public, in a work place etc, would be viewed the same way. The only arguments being made to defend this is that he is autistic, he didn't mean it, he was sharing love, there is an agenda against him, all sound like nonsense to me.
Is this about that weird gesture Musk did twice totally not meaning to perfectly mirror the Nazi salute or is this about him being butt hurt about his video game skills being laughed at and revealing private DMs from cockroach guy in retaliation?
Funny how that doesn't seem to be true.
Oh, right historians...The most unbiased people on the planet. Nazis? Oh wow we now have a time machine. Whose daughter? Musks? The one that transitioned? lolIt was a nazi salute.
Historians say it's a nazi salute.
Nazis say it's a nazi salute
His daughter just said it was a nazi salute
Is banning X on Reddit a punitive measure? Absolutely, and calling Elon a Nazi given he's relationship with Israel and the Jewish community is nothing short of ridiculous. Like you say, it is not out the realm of possibility that someone could make similar hand movements, like the photos circulating of other politicians with their arm raised. However, most of those examples aren't in motion, and the ones that are aren't as defined and as expressed as Elon's gesture. I find it hard to believe it was on accident. I find it hard to believe the 'tism encouraged it. I find it hard to believe that he has ever been physically animated like that when he is expressing love and gratitude to others.As a society, we have arbitrarily chosen to stigmatize certain things tied to the Nazis. For example: the toothbrush mustache is pretty much banned because it will be taken as an ode to Hitler even though it was a popular mustache at the time that many people wore, including Charlie Chaplin. One of those things is a Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is relatively unique, but it's not like someone having a tattoo of a swastika. There are many gestures that have people put their hand to their heart and then wave. It's not out of the realm of possibility someone could stumble into doing such a gesture.
Again, it's not like getting a swastika tattoo or yelling sieg heil. At the end of the day, I believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt. Most people are not Nazis or hateful. I've seen this before where people have Eagle tattoos and people associate it with Nazis, or some weird discourse around the number '88' which was one of the more laughable ones. If I'm to put odds on it I think it's far more likely people are going to disingenuously try to go after someone they don't like than it is Elon Musk was trying to do a Nazi salute. But we can believe whatever we want, the reality is none of us know, and I think it's both counterproductive and a waste of time to get so worked up about something no one can confirm to be true.
This reminds me of the ok symbol from a few years back and people getting into trouble and even being fired for it. People would accuse them of being white supremacists, and then people would go no, that's not what I was trying to do and people were going "Yes you were." At that point there can't be any dialogue. If you can't take someone's word for something, then there's nowhere to go from that point. You can either accept the answer and move on or continue to be a stickler about it, and whatever choice is everyone's right, but I think objectively there is one path that is more productive than the other. What does being pissed at Elon over this even accomplish anyway other than make someone feel good about themselves?
You know, I honestly don't think Elon meant to do this. It was the wrong move for sure, but he's probably the most awkward person to put on a stage in front of millions. Do I feel bad for the billionaire? No. But I really don't think that he was intending on doing a Nazi solute.