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Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness turns 20, is still sad

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I haven't listened to this album in years and I can still recite these lyrics word for word:

Muzzle

I fear that I am ordinary just like everyone
To lie here and die among the sorrows
Adrift among the days
For everything I ever said
And everything I've ever done is gone and dead
As all things must surely have to end
And great loves will one day have to part
I know that I am meant for this world
My life has been extraordinary
Blessed and cursed and won
Time heals but I'm forever broken
By and by the way
Have you ever heard the words
I'm singing in these songs?
It's for the girl I've loved all along
Can a taste of love be so wrong
As all things must surely have to end
And great loves will one day have to part
I know that I am meant for this world
And in my mind as I was floating
Far above the clouds
Some children laughed I'd fall for certain
For thinking that I'd last forever

But I knew exactly where I was
And I knew the meaning of it all
And I knew the distance to the sun
And I knew the echo that is love
And I knew the secrets in your spires
And I knew the emptiness of youth
And I knew the solitude of heart
And I knew the murmurs of the soul

And the world is drawn into your hands
And the world is etched upon your heart
And the world so hard to understand

Is the world your can't live without
And I knew the silence of the world
 

Diablos

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Probably my favorite bit of the entire album, that last half of that song.
It's perfection. I remember you btw. Nice to see you are still around.


Well, I think there's something to that, save for Zeitgeist, which at least felt pretty coherent overall. I increasingly feel like that without JC in the band, the cohesiveness of the SP's album stylistically tends to fall apart and meander, like loose sketches in someone's notebook.
Oceania weirdly enough is complete; the only part that doesn't fit is the drumming. It's like someone hacked a server with the final mix and slipped in shitty drumming instead after muting Jimmy's track that we can, at this point for a lot of us fans, imagine quite well.

Monuments to an Elegy just felt more like a B-side or some lost demos that got cleaned up a bit. It was all over the map.
Even that is being too nice; Monuments is the worst Smashing Pumpkins album to date. It's an embarrassment. There is not one good song on the album. Not one. It flies in the face of what I've been saying forever, which is that Billy, even at his lowest, will assure at least a few quality tracks every time he does an album/string of songs/whatever. Thus he is at a low point. If this is the future of SP, I'd rather pretend the band ended. I swear Billy almost did it as a joke just to prove a point (having a better drummer than Mike Bryne on an album won't make it better). You know how Billy loves trying to prove a point.

On an unrelated note, I was pretty pleased to see that JC's still drumming and making music. It's a pretty big departure for anyone who wants to hear that alternative sound, but my tastes run broad and I just love that quality JC brings to drumming, so I can at least take comfort in that.
I've heard this. It's okay.

I would still love to hear anything along the lines of a pure BC/JC EP's worth of material or a new JCC album.
This.
 
So many for 1979.


Why do you guys prefer it over Tonight, Tonight? That to me is the special song.


Also has an absolutely incredible music video!
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
It's perfection. I remember you btw. Nice to see you are still around.



Oceania weirdly enough is complete; the only part that doesn't fit is the drumming. It's like someone hacked a server with the final mix and slipped in shitty drumming instead after muting Jimmy's track that we can, at this point for a lot of us fans, imagine quite well.


Even that is being too nice; Monuments is the worst Smashing Pumpkins album to date. It's an embarrassment. There is not one good song on the album. Not one. It flies in the face of what I've been saying forever, which is that Billy, even at his lowest, will assure at least a few quality tracks every time he does an album/string of songs/whatever. Thus he is at a low point. If this is the future of SP, I'd rather pretend the band ended. I swear Billy almost did it as a joke just to prove a point (having a better drummer than Mike Bryne on an album won't make it better). You know how Billy loves trying to prove a point.


I've heard this. It's okay.


This.

Same to you, way back machine to that FF website. Still here, just much much older.
 

mattiewheels

And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
1979 is a strange thing, it fits so many contexts. It plays in grocery stores and momrock stations, and it still is something even the snobbiest people can agree on as being one of the coolest songs ever written. It just seems to rustle up a lot of feeling in people.

Anyone know much about its individual production, like if Flood was key for the electronic sound of that one?
 

toneroni

Member
Wow I was mostly into rap back then but LOVED this album.
Incredible stuff and is one of the only CDs I still own. Too bad wifey doesn't really know them. Tonight, tonight is my favorite track on it btw but 1979 brings me back to HS..
 

NH Apache

Banned
Amazing album.

FYI, not sure if mentioned, this album is one of the free ones on Amazon Prime. Also, the extended is on there.
 

rec0ded1

Member
Had my license for about a year, had a shit car, and would drive around with my teen angst in the passenger seat when this dropped. RIP tower records.

Wow for kids today this is the equivalent of listening to 70s stuff when i was in highschool...well shit.
 
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