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Member of FB Hate group "Alt Reich Nation" fatally stabs Black student/service member

Whenever there is a step forward for black people, there is always- without fail- a whitelash. From Reconstruction to Jim Crow. From civil rights to the War on Drugs. From Obama to fucking Trump. America never fails to show just how much it honestly hates when we take a step forward. If we somehow take out the War on Drugs, I can't wait for what will happen to us next. Because it will happen.

Please let me see this before I die.

RIP Lieutenant Collins, I'm so sorry that deranged hate drove this sorry excuse for a man to take your life.
 
Dude was literally going to war to fight for the liberties of the asshat that killed him.

Gotta hope there's a peaceful, wondrous afterlife in cases like this.
 

conpfreak

Member
The victim went to my Alma Mater and I remember seeing him around at some campus events. Most of my BSU social media is in shock over this. One of the reasons why black students opt to go to HBCUs like BSU instead of schools like UMD College Park is to not deal with dangerous Alt-Right viewpoints and aggression, so it's sad he could not escape that on a visit. RIP.
 
I have thought about this as well, and I think I can explain why: black basketball players are the equivalent of Roman gladiators. In ancient Rome, the nobility would purchase slaves and train them to fight in the arena. These slaves were valued above other slaves because they could bring prestige to the family. They were like a prized farm animal.

I think black athletes are largely in the same position for white sports team owners today. You look at the best, bid on it against other owners that want the athlete, and then you get to show the possession off to your friends at competitive events. This social position allows the team owner to simultaneously feel superior to the person he "owns" while also having a kind of elated respect for his possession.

One of the biggest reasons why I'm proud to be a Charlotte Hornets fan is because it has been minority owned since 2004. First by Bob Johnson and now by Michael Jordan. It's also why I could never cheer for a team like the Magic which is owned by the DeVos family.

The Kings are also owned by a minority, so I guess it should not be a surprise that both teams were and still are the recipients of scorn and derision from media and fans.
 

_Ryo_

Member
1. Send this man to jail for life. There is a high chance he is too far gone for rehabilitation.

2. Shut down the face book group.

My condolences to the victims friends and family amd co workers.
 

rjinaz

Member
1. Send this man to jail for life. There is a high chance he is too far gone for rehabilitation.

2. Shut down the face book group.

My condolences to the victims friends and family amd co workers.

The facebook group has been shutdown according to the Heavy article I posted a bit ago. I haven't checked personally though.
 

Dehnus

Member
Hate groups pass the Facebook moderation test. Shocking.

Well you aren't allowed to show nudity there, but you are allowed to show an "abortion", and you wonder about Facebook's political leaning? They cater to the shockjocks that want to "OMG look sooo blooody! Abortion is murder!" on their profiles and pages. Facebook is not your friend, it is your enemy.
 

i-Lo

Member
1. Send this man to jail for life. There is a high chance he is too far gone for rehabilitation.

2. Shut down the face book group.

My condolences to the victims friends and family amd co workers.

1.5 Put ALL the members of the FB group on high security risk/Potential domestic terrorist list (at least, I hope they did before shutting it down).
 
"Step left, step left"

Is this some kind of Nazi thing I haven't heard about before?

I dont know about that, but it reminded me of every story I ever read about in the era when Black people were expected to get off the sidewalk and into the street if a White person crossed their path. Then getting lynched if they refused. Its about racial subordination.
 

Tain

Member
White supremacy is a hate movement, not a political opinion.

I see a lot of this and I can't get behind it because it feels like a way to frame the concept of politics as something inherently respectable, which is horse shit.

White supremacy very much is political. Given that, in America, our nation's history of oppression ties into every facet of society and is practically in the air that we breathe, shit like this is absolutely political and all of the policies and attitudes that contribute to this shouldn't be waved away.

Don't mistake this as me saying that we need to respect white supremacy, but instead that we need to recognize that "politics" encompasses vile and heinous stances, and because those stances affect policy and in turn the day-to-day lives of the oppressed, they need to be recognized (as in, not be considered apolitical) and pushed back against at every turn.
 

theWB27

Member
I see a lot of this and I can't get behind it because it feels like a way to frame the concept of politics as something inherently respectable, which is horse shit.

White supremacy very much is political. Given that, in America, our history of oppression ties into every facet of society and is practically in the air that we breathe, shit like this is absolutely political and all of the policies and attitudes that contribute to this shouldn't be waved away.

Don't mistake this as me saying that we need to respect white supremacy, but instead to recognize that "politics" encompasses vile and heinous stances, and because those stances affect policy and in turn the day-to-day lives of the oppressed, they need to be recognized (as in, not be considered apolitical) and pushed back against at every turn.

Nah...white dudes made it political so they could pass their laws under the guise of simple policy. It's pure hate...and it doesn't deserve to be seen as anything but hate.

As long as it stays political in anyone's mind the longer it'll take to get it seen as what it is. Policy is just something for the racist to hide behind...to make it "respectable."
 

Nakazato

Member
(Lock if old)
http://www.wyff4.com/article/fbi-investigating-university-stabbing-as-possible-hate-crime/9903834


The perp, Urbanski
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The victim: Collins
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This is horrible :(
 

KPJZKC

Member
Urbanski? I don't recall the Nazis being particularly fond of the Polish. I'm sure the irony is lost on this troglodyte.
 

Boke1879

Member
Twitter and facebook need to do a better job. It may not have stopped this crime, but these people don't deserve to congregate is such platforms.

No reason a group like this should have been allowed to thrive on facebook and no reason why racist trolls and enablers should still have twitter accounts.
 

Hyun Sai

Member
Media already trying to be on the sly and defend him by saying he was drunk. Like that's the only fucking reason he did this. This is going to keep happening until blacks fight back.

Drunk or high or mental illness, a little slap on the wrist and boom, he is free sooner than we think.
 
Tell me again why we're supposed to be allowing the nazis to speak out on campuses?

Because if we attempt to stamp out the hatred in some stupid liberal elite bubble, instead of just acknowledging the desire to see members of the human race be forever abused as simply "the other side" of the human rights argument, you get things like Donald Trump and Brexit.

So what's it gonna be?

Embrace Nazis, or Donald Trump?

Pick one.

That's the way the world works now. Give hatred an equal stage to spread itself, or we'll elect a president to do it for us.
 

Ogodei

Member
Urbanski? I don't recall the Nazis being particularly fond of the Polish. I'm sure the irony is lost on this troglodyte.


As recently as the 1920s the Klan had Catholics right up there with black people as the enemy to be othered, but after civil rights in the 60s garnered a lot of backlash from working class whites (who were often Slavic, Italian, or Irish), the definition was expanded so that the movement could find new ground.

Precious little self-reflection among Nazis, though, like with Nazi groups in Russia.
 

gcubed

Member
The Facebook moderating​ rules that the guardian has been publishing are an embarrassment and I can't for the life of me figure out why no one cares.

YouTube was rightly blasted loudly and quickly but nary a whimper for Facebook
 
They just come out of the woodwork like slugs hiding in the shadows:


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Anne Arundel County police say a civilian employee was suspended Monday over a Facebook post appearing to make light of a Bowie State University student's stabbing death.

“The actions of this employee are a betrayal of the values of the Anne Arundel County Police Department. Any employee who espouses or supports hateful or racist ideology will be held accountable and we will not allow the public’s trust in their police department to be eroded," Chief Timothy Altomare said in a statement.

Police say, Welby Burgone is a former police academy recruit now assigned to the communications section. Hours after the comment, the police Professional Standards Unit launched an investigation.

An account in Burgone's name responded to a post jokingly approving of the fatal stabbing with an image macro of a crab holding a knife and the text, "You mess with crabo, You get a stabo."

http://www.wbal.com/article/240898/53/anne-arundel-co-police-employee-suspended-for-facebook-comment
 
Yeah. It started happening a few years ago and it completely disproves there "people are only assholes online when they have anonymity" theory.

Anyone still using the idea that people are only bigots under anonimity are hopefully waking up now. Even more, it also disproves that children and teens are the only people participating. Grown men & women, doctors, teachers and politicians have all shown an undying hate for black people and black people's lives. It really has made me trust no one. People stay at arms length with me until they plainly and firmly show they have not an ounce of this stuff in their lives.
 
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