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Memoirs of a PC NOOB! My journey into the PC world

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
I have been a gamer longer than some of you have been alive. I started back in the old nes/master system days and kinda always stayed in the console space. There were a few hurdles for years that detoured me from wanting to enter the PC Space. I preferred the exclusives on Consoles while loving the whole just turn on the button and play. It will happen to you too but after a long time one gets sick of playing the same experiences over and over again. I will show a list of my experiences as a console owner:

Here is the list of consoles I have owned at one time or another in my life time:
NES
Master System
Genesis
SNES
Turbo graphix 16
3DO (bought it used at a pawnshop in the late 90's for under $100)
PSX
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Nintendo Gamecube
Xbox (one of the first Xbox live members)
Xbox 360 ( Microsoft nailed it here and believe corporate greed has ruined the Xbox brand)
PS3
PS4
PS5
Quest 2
Quest 3
Nvidia shield
Oyua

As you can see I have a long and extensive history with console videogames. Making a change to PC was not an easy decision because Time is always a factor as well. Between life, family, job, study there is so much time in the day and prioritizing that time is becoming more and more valuable. The problem I was having is that when I would have free time there was nothing that was really drawing me to play my PS5. I rarely like to replay a game so having a long library outside of collecting does not mean much to me. I just needed a change from the console space because it is leaving a sour taste in my mouth. The constant updates, the constant unnessary remakes, the price gouging on the service requried to play online for the rare times I want too, and just lack of diversity to play. So I made up my mind and It was time for me to leave the console space and enter the PC world. It was the last gaming frontier I have not been on so the journey would be fun.

Cost: This was a factor for me because with all my responsibilites combined with low income most of my life has been a major factor why I was scared of PC. Sure I could build something minimal but my mind does not work like that. I would instantly regret playing games at low settings or have to tweak settings just to get a good framerate. So I knew that if I went this route that the rig had to be decent spec that matches or even exceeds current consoles. My plan was to acquire the parts slowly. Find parts that are onsale and even even refurbished if necessary.

Research: I even consulted this very forum on pc parts and did a ton of own of research. I knew I couldn't listen to all the rich people telling me to get a 4090 or 4080 because I simply do not have or simply do not wish to spend those type of funds on a single component. I used sites like PC parts picker, I compared benchmarks, I listened to what the people on the forums were sayinig and also used my common sense to find out the rig I was going to build. I figure I would acquire the parts slowly and then when I get them all together I would build the PC.

As the months Went on I slowly was getting my parts. I found some that was on sale and even Acquried my GPU like new in box for $445 shipped (MSI VENTUS 3x OC 4070 12gb) . I am going to school for IT Support and Getting my A+ certification so this rig was going to be both for work and play. I wanted a rig that was on the smaller side because I live in a smaller place yet stylish. I did a bunch of research made a plan and over the course of 4 months got th parts together to build the rig.

Chirstmas Day the Big day: My family knows that I have been busting my ass with working and going to school to try to better myself. They were very good to me this year and got me all the remaing parts I needed to build my PC. My mobo, my Ram, my CPU Cooler and my premium keyboard. I was super excited Christmas day because I had all the parts and figured it would take me and hour or two to build Christmas night. WRONG! I started building this rig around 7pm and didn't finish til around 2am due to many reasons. I will explain why.

THE BUILD:
Parts list:
Okinos Aqua 3 mico atx fish tank case RGB fans with hub built in ( I put a clean cable management job on her and she is really appealing to look at)
i5-13600kf (underrated beast/value of a CPU that is scoring over 22,000 stock on Cinebench R23)
Thermalright RGB Assassin Cooler
RTX 4070 ( I was flirting with AMD but Nvidia's software and compatiblity is just too good)
32GB DDR5 6,000mhz Ram RGB
1TB Super Fast NVME on boot drive and a 2tb slightly slower nvme secondary drive
MSI Mag Wifi II b760m mobo
750w Power Supply gold rated 80
Epomaker Shadow X keyboard with built in screen RGB
coolermaster honey comb light weight mouse

So I watched countless you tube videos and they always say it's easy to build a PC it's like legos. Maybe for someone experienced that is true but for a NOOB that is complete bullshit. It is not as easy as they say and there is a ton of modern problems one runs into and doesn't know until they experience it how to deal with it. My second time around it will be much easier because of the bullshit I went through but for these arrogant assholes to come online and act like putting a PC together for your fist time is a synch is a complete Joke. Here is problems I ran into that I didn't see many people posting about and had to figure it out on my own

Examples:
-How about when you install the entire mobo in the case, start hooking up all the cables and then realize that your fingers are too fucking fat to put the CPU connector in so the only solution is to remove the whole motherboard to
-You plug it the computer after the build and ready to see the fruits of your labor to see the Unit is receiving no power. Only to google search and realize the 24pin power connector was just a fraction of an inch loose or the front panel header polarity was reversed because it is not marked clearly on mobo or cable
-Those small fucking itty bity front panel header cables are a real pain in the ass to put on properly
-Realizing when I am about 85% of the build that MSI sent me a mobo with USB 3.0 header that has mutliple broken pins (it was new) I fixed it with a PCIe to USB 3.0 front fanel hub connector
-Hearing a weird noise to realize my CPU power connector was hitting the top fans on my case but that is becuase I only had maybe 2 inches of clearance so I had to figure out how to manage the cables just perfecly d
-Getting a flashing red light on my mobo only to tell me my Ram was not seated properly (reseated and fixed it but it looked an felt the same as I originally installed it)
-Needed to unplug my graphics card but couldn't reach the PCIe 16 release connector (Solved it the old fashioned way, pulled and broke the clip but it works 100%)

My point being for a first time builder it is not as easy as they make it seem but many lessons learned. My advice to anyone doing it for the first time to consult a friend or someone who has previous experiences because a lot of minor problems pop up that a google search always does not solve. Around 2am I turned it on, Seen the sweet Bios, installed windows from my usb drive, updated the drivers, updated firmware on mobo, installed my game clients, let it download many games and then went to bed.

The Results: Stock and not OC 17549 gpu and 17323 CPU Timespy

My goal target was a 1440p machine. I play on my 32" 1440p monitor and my 65inch oled that has VRR. I can't quite put my finger on it but games just seem sharper and more crisp than on my PS5. Prime example is Cyberpunk 2077. I play this with Ray tracing Ultra and Path tracing on, DLSS Quality with frame generation and getting around 70FPS. It is just mind blowing to look at. I played this same game updated for the PS5 but the PC version seems like it was made on the PS6. Love the options that many games with one click will tune the games automatically for you. Many games I am getting 120fps and that is new to me. Just the Sure diversity of games combined with the basement prices are really nice. The $129.99 a year I was paying on PS plus will not be missed. What is even better is the console exclusives I use to miss out will release on this platform and will be superior in most cases. The mods are also extremely cool. I love the fact that most mods are free versus every little thing on the console they nickle and dime you for. It's such a dramatic change from the Console ecosystem it feels like Moses leaving Egypt. I broke free from the console state of mind and not going back.

The Cheap Games
The Free Mod Community
The Game Variety
The various options for various system games can scale too

Amazing!

Here is a few images of the build:

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Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Just be glad you’ve never accidentally deleted your MBR when trying to dual boot XP and Red Hat Linux on your screaming Athlon 1800 in 2001.

Anyway, welcome to Hell the club.
 

Magic Carpet

Gold Member
Fat fingers, I had to remove my RTX 4070 to get to one of my M.2's.
Speaking of storage, what did you get for storage?

That 4070 will keep you happy for many years.
 

RavageX

Member
To add my two cents. Smart on going Nvidia. This is TWICE with a PC build that I went with AMD, and I dunno what it is but their drivers seem to suck.

I knew this with my second build and for the life of me I am not sure why I did it again. Random crashes until I started using an OLD driver. WTF.

My laptop which is old...has a 1660ti still does a great job, but it is starting to show its age.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Nothing quite like the feeling of booting up a machine you built yourself to your own specifications and everything works as it should.

Some random thoughts for a guy new to PCs:

- like Mister Wolf Mister Wolf said you should familiarize yourself with the Nvidia control panel. Very useful.
- if you have amazon prime, claim all the free games
- might as well get EGS and claim those free games too
- CDKeys, GMG, and Fanatical are great for getting cheap Steam keys
- CheatEngine is fun to screw around with
- NexusMods is fun to screw around with
- Steam Workshop is fun to screw around with

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clarky

Gold Member
I have a 4070 build in the front room. More than capable, Congrats. Theres more than a few very knowledgeable PC folks on the forum to help out if you have any questions or need some tips.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
To add my two cents. Smart on going Nvidia. This is TWICE with a PC build that I went with AMD, and I dunno what it is but their drivers seem to suck.

I knew this with my second build and for the life of me I am not sure why I did it again. Random crashes until I started using an OLD driver. WTF.

My laptop which is old...has a 1660ti still does a great job, but it is starting to show its age.
Never had a problem myself. 570 still going strong in my sons PC now, and my 6900XT hasn't had any AMD specific issues.
 

RavageX

Member
Never had a problem myself. 570 still going strong in my sons PC now, and my 6900XT hasn't had any AMD specific issues.
Funny, I believe that is what I have(6900XT) and the (new) drivers just don't play nice with some games. Zero issues using an older one, so I dunno.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Funny, I believe that is what I have(6900XT) and the (new) drivers just don't play nice with some games. Zero issues using an older one, so I dunno.
Did you have the universal frame gen activated, I know I turned that off because I did have some weird issues with it on, and never really noticed it actually doing anything.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
A lot of examples in the OP explain why I usually go for large cases and motherboards. I can’t deal with small cases without a lot of cursing!

Anyways, props to you OP and good luck both on gaming and on professional side of things!
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Congratulations

Nothing like it

I helped a colleague 2 months ago to find the parts and deals to built his rig. Helped him with wiring advice, etc. He hasn't touched his PS5 nor Xbox series X since then and doesn't think he will anytime soon. He considers selling them in fact. He's already at 30 ish games on Steam.

If you still have the Quest 3....

Half Life Alyx

Like now

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The problem is that after playing it, you'll never feel a VR game will surpass this.
 

64bitmodels

Reverse groomer.
troubles i had with my build were mostly due to parts. In hindsight, i should have made a lot better choices like getting a regular CPU instead of those AMD "G" series ones (my 5600g died on me after i got it...)

the motherboard didn't support the version of CPU i had, thought it was a PSU issue but no it was CPU.

All that's been behind me for years now though. I know better, and my second build when i ever get around to it is gonna be hassle-free.

Building a PC is still easy BTW (to me, at least), you just need some research.
 

rm082e

Member
A lot of examples in the OP explain why I usually go for large cases and motherboards. I can’t deal with small cases without a lot of cursing!

Anyways, props to you OP and good luck both on gaming and on professional side of things!

Seriously. The little shoebox cases were all the rage back in the day, but I wasn't confident enough that I could keep a GPU cool as they were getting bigger every few years. I went with the Fractal Design Define case, which is pretty roomy and has lots of fan slots. In the years since, I've wished I had one of the E-ATX super jumbo cases.

If I were buying a case today, I'd probably go with the be quiet! Dark Base PRO 901, or the Fractal Design Torrent. Give me all the space and all the airflow.
 

simpatico

Member
OP your build sounds pretty typical to mine and I've been building them for about 20 years. Just as far as little problems you run into. I always end up completely on tilt and sweaty. But man at 2:00AM when it finally come together... talk about a dopamine bath. When I was younger my move was cheaping out on cases, and I mean really really cheaping out. Open box version of what is already the cheapest case at microcenter type of stuff. Most times I could fix anything with a dremel, but what sucked was the documentation (lol) for the case headers. Hell even on good cases and good mobos that documentation sucks. Those things really are the worst part of any build.
 

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
If you've still got the Quest 3 now's the time to go play Half Life 1 on flat screen and then jump to Half Life 2 VR mod and then Alyx. You will be blown away.
I will get to that. I already played it on my friends weaker PC and it worked ok using his quest 2. I will experience it on the quest 3 using virtual desktop to the pc.
 

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
OP your build sounds pretty typical to mine and I've been building them for about 20 years. Just as far as little problems you run into. I always end up completely on tilt and sweaty. But man at 2:00AM when it finally come together... talk about a dopamine bath. When I was younger my move was cheaping out on cases, and I mean really really cheaping out. Open box version of what is already the cheapest case at microcenter type of stuff. Most times I could fix anything with a dremel, but what sucked was the documentation (lol) for the case headers. Hell even on good cases and good mobos that documentation sucks. Those things really are the worst part of any build.
I think next time I am going to do it the opposite. I am going to connect all of the cables to the mobo, feed them through the case into the PSU and then connect it all together.
 

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Congratulations

Nothing like it

I helped a colleague 2 months ago to find the parts and deals to built his rig. Helped him with wiring advice, etc. He hasn't touched his PS5 nor Xbox series X since then and doesn't think he will anytime soon. He considers selling them in fact. He's already at 30 ish games on Steam.

If you still have the Quest 3....

Half Life Alyx

Like now

eye-tracking.gif



world.gif



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The problem is that after playing it, you'll never feel a VR game will surpass this.
I will be getting into it heavy
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Returned the gaming laptop I was using. Thing was just too loud for every day gaming. I'll just stick to streaming when I need to travel.

New PC build....

Ryzen 5 7600X3D
Asus Rog Strix B650A motherboard
32 GB DDR5 6000 RAM

Got all that from a bundle deal at Microcenter for $499

Considering my laptop had a 4080 mobile (which is actually very close to the 4070 desktop) and I had no problem with its performance, I decided to go with a 4070 Ti Super this time. Saved about $300 (vs 4080) as I found a open box deal for $740. I have 60 days to return it if I change my mind when the new cards are released.

Reused existing case and power supply. Investing in some new case fans as well.
 
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Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Returned the gaming laptop I was using. Thing was just too loud for every day gaming. I'll just stick to streaming when I need to travel.

New PC build....

Ryzen 5 7600X3D
Asus Rog Strix B650A motherboard
32 GB DDR5 6000 RAM

Got all that from a bundle deal at Microcenter for $499

Considering my laptop had a 4080 mobile (which is actually very close to the 4070 desktop) and I had no problem with its performance, I decided to go with a 4070 Ti Super this time. Saved about $300 as I found a open box deal for $740. I have 60 days to return it if I change my mind when the new cards are released.

Reused existing case and power supply. Investing in some new case fans as well.
Same with those Handhelds, when they get hot the fans sound like a hair dryer in your hands.
 

R3TRO

Member
Good stuff.

As I get older I appreciate using WeMod to make my life easier in almost every game, unlimited ammo, stamina etc. That alone is a major reason I stick to pc.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
Added pics of the build

Good looking PC. Only thing I'd worry about is airflow. Do you have fans on the top? All I see is back case fan and the CPU fan/heatsink.

Edit: Saw in your post you do so that's good. Are they intake or do you have fans underneath as well?
 
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Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Good looking PC. Only thing I'd worry about is airflow. Do you have fans on the top? All I see is back case fan and the CPU fan/heatsink.

Edit: Saw in your post you do so that's good. Are they intake or do you have fans underneath as well?
I was considering it but even during benchmarks the tempatures are cool. Will do so in the future if needed but plan to do minimal overclocking
 

lmimmfn

Member
I also have fat finger syndrome, as such, i always assemble the mobo + cpu + ram + NVMe drives on the table before installing in the case.

For the pain in the ass headers for the case fans, speaker etc. i use a header extender so i can connect everything from the case to the header, then after mobo is in the case just connect that.
To ensure the ram is fully installed, the clips on either size show be fully pushed out before installing the ram, after installing the ram the clips should be grasping the ram sticks tightly.
Yes, its easy to break the PCIE clasps it becomes easier over time from a few builds to remember that they're there and not just just pull the GPU out.

Because of my fat finger syndrome, i absolutely hate working with small cases(other people wanting builds), my own case is absolutely huge and weights a tonne, difficult to lug around but its very sturdy when in place, its some old corsair case from 2014 or so.

The best tip i can give for building a PC is give yourself 6 hours in total to complete the build and its plenty of time to not be rushing and making mistakes. It wont take 6 hours most of the time, usually its 2 hours before its ready to start installing windows but you can run into issues, e.g. using and older AIO but changing CPU vendor may require finding the older clasps and figuring out how they work, or finding the AIO wont fit correctly or worst case scenario it powers on but turns off straight away(usually issue with mobo shorting somewhere with the case).
Another pro tip is never ever use power cables from another PSU, i learnt that the hard way destroying an SSD in the process.

Ive done about 6 of my own builds so far and about 6 for others.
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Congrats on your first build, and in all honesty a lot of your issues were no big deal. They’re things you’ll remember in the future.

Starting at 7pm though. That’s getting a little late. My own personal preference would be early morning or around noon. Give yourself some time.

But it really is pretty easy.
 
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