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John Wick

Member
How is #3 in the gaming space with 12% of the market dominating. Explain.
Maybe you should read up about how Congress is concerned about big tech firms gobbling everything up. Using their sheer financial muscle to stifle competition and dominate in certain areas. They want to stop that.
Are Microsoft back to being the underdog again? What about the limitless warchest?
 

kingfey

Banned
So in your world, once a DLC releases, base game is worthless.
DLC adds new story to the base game. You wont experience it, if you dont buy the dlc. Some times, DLC gives base game more coherant to the story.

Yes, are you in physical pain playing this game without the DLC installed?
If you are interested in the Witcher 3 universe, you absolutely need the dlc to experience it.

So you're that guy that before even playing buys all 650+ DLCs, that cost upwards of 5k $ for Train Simulator 2022 because according to your reply's you are unable to play a game without having all DLC.
I now get why "PC master race" has such a bad rep when there is people like you out there posting shit tier takes around the internet.

Obviously games don't lose any worth when DLC releases and I assure you, you can play them without DLC just fine. It's also cheaper to rebuy DLC than base game + DLC. :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
I swear some of you make me question human intelligence.
That is funny take. Only physical game owners pay for these dlcs.
Digital users get the full experience of the game for cheap. You save alot of money, if you buy the witcher 3 full edition, compared to disc edition, and buy the dlc later.

I doubt you buy digital games, or else you would have known that option.
 

yurinka

Member
I forgot about it, but the president of Lasengle is Yoshinori Ono, previously known for being in charge of Capcom's fighting games.

For a little context, this is more of an organization shuffling. They more or less already owned Fate GO. This just frees up DelightWorks from the project and lets them move on to other things (but their work is shoddy at best anyways).
Sony bought the gamedev team of DelightWorks, which has been renamed to Lasengle. The remaining staff at DelightWorks won't make games, all their game business has been sold to Sony.
 
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Lognor

Banned
Do you need a source for everything everyone says to you? It's called a discussion. Probably not your strong suit granted given how stupid a lot of your posts are
When you make statements like this:

They don't care what Microsoft's current position is in the market. Their lens looks further out than you do. They care that they're one of the few forces capable of spending upwards of $100 billion and more absorbing companies.

You can play naive as much as you want, but if you can see Microsoft's warchest at play here, then so can they.
yeah, I'm going to ask you where you're getting this information. How do you know what the FTC does or does not care about? Based on what? Not your own personal experience, that's for sure? So what? Where are you getting these types of definitive statements you're making?

Maybe use "I think" or "perhaps." You might look like less of a fool.
 

Topher

Identifies as young
What dollar amount? Source?


The Hart-Scott-Rodino Antitrust Improvements Act of 1976 requires parties to report large transactions to both the Federal Trade Commission and the US Department of Justice Antitrust Division for antitrust review. When the HSR requirements are met, the parties must submit HSR filings to both agencies and wait a specified period before they can close. The parties' HSR filings require them to disclose basic information about the transaction and their businesses, such as their subsidiaries, revenues, and information about competitive overlaps between their businesses.

During the waiting period, one of the US antitrust agencies reviews the transaction to make sure it is not likely to substantially harm competition. At the end of the waiting period, the investigating agency can allow the transaction to close or file suit in court to block the transaction. At any point, the agency may negotiate a settlement with the parties to resolve their competitive concerns, such as requiring a divestiture of a line of business.

Size-of-transaction test. The size-of-transaction test evaluates the assets, voting securities, and non-corporate interests (such as membership interests or units) the acquiring party will hold after the acquisition. The test is met if the value of the equity or assets to be acquired exceeds $90 million.

They don't care what Microsoft's current position is in the market. Their lens looks further out than you do. They care that they're one of the few forces capable of spending upwards of $100 billion and more absorbing companies.

You can play naive as much as you want, but if you can see Microsoft's warchest at play here, then so can they.

The problem is so many are assuming this stuff only applies to monopolies. That isn't the case at all. The FTC has been overwhelmed with transactions requiring their review and you can bet the vast majority of them have nothing to do with being a monopoly.

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/ftc-increases-risk-acquirers-extending-time-review
 
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EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
Unless Sony is interested in getting into the light novel business kadokawa is just nonsense pipe dreams from people who want to console war souls games exclusivity.

Who says they need to? If they own them, they can just sell off that part of the business to a company that even does that stuff, but with all of the Anime studios and companies they have been buying, its not like it wouldn't even be a fucking fit for them lol

So we know Sony buys based on those relationships they have with teams. Demon Souls, Bloodborne and even the rumor of them making a PS5 exclusive (not shocked btw) shows they are close and Sony might be willing to buy such a team to combat those lost RPGs thru MS's buyouts.

So I don't think anyone is guessing that "souly" based on "console warz", it makes logical sense even if none of this was going on sir. Sony buying a team they worked with isn't even a wild, out there assumption. Doing it now would make sense to fill out those gaps that will occur in the future based on IP Sony depended on coming to PS. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Outer Worlds, Pillars Of Eternity 3 etc Sony clearly must factor this, so I don't think Kadokawa or Square or anything like that should be shocking to anyone. Was Sony suppose to not want support? Have less content is good? lol I feel that purchase is not even going to be a "shock" type thing, it will be a "finally" type thing like we saw from Insomniac and Bluepoint.
 
Maybe you should read up about how Congress is concerned about big tech firms gobbling everything up. Using their sheer financial muscle to stifle competition and dominate in certain areas. They want to stop that.
Not really. The problem is big tech is suppressing the competition when they are already in a leading position. Especially Facebook. You just cannot compare Microsoft's market share in gaming with Facebook's in social networks (especially when we learn these days stuff like that Facebook bought Whatsapp (or Instagram) in order to prevent the competition from appearing).

When you make statements like this:


yeah, I'm going to ask you where you're getting this information. How do you know what the FTC does or does not care about? Based on what? Not your own personal experience, that's for sure? So what? Where are you getting these types of definitive statements you're making?

Maybe use "I think" or "perhaps." You might look like less of a fool.
There is no reason to argue with a guy. He is just trolling at this point and soon will talk to himself here:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
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When you make statements like this:


yeah, I'm going to ask you where you're getting this information. How do you know what the FTC does or does not care about? Based on what? Not your own personal experience, that's for sure? So what? Where are you getting these types of definitive statements you're making?

Maybe use "I think" or "perhaps." You might look like less of a fool.

I can't believe this lmao

Unless you've been stuck in your basement for your whole life the FTCs views on big tech aren't some secret. I'm not here to provide you with the most basic information just so you can join in. Educate yourself.
 
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kingfey

Banned
Maybe you should read up about how Congress is concerned about big tech firms gobbling everything up. Using their sheer financial muscle to stifle competition and dominate in certain areas. They want to stop that.
Are Microsoft back to being the underdog again? What about the limitless warchest?
When will they be relevant in the 1st place?

MS cant even make 1st party games. Their new purchase of zenimax starts bumping games this year. That is 1 and half year of their purchase.

It would take time for their activision to make games for them.

Congress wont bother with MS purchase at all.

Xbox one is the clear example of MS power.
 

Pejo

Member
Sony bought the gamedev team of DelightWorks, which has been renamed to Lasengle. The remaining staff at DelightWorks won't make games, all their game business has been sold to Sony.
How does that conflict with what I said?

Anyways, everybody's favorite Blanka fan is in charge (still) of this new company.

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ManaByte

Banned
Maybe you should read up about how Congress is concerned about big tech firms gobbling everything up.

That's not what they're concerned about. They're concerned about privacy with FB/Google and Apple and Amazon controlling a platform like a monopoly.
 

Jaybe

Member
In the gaming space can there really be anything bigger then the Acti-blizz 70bill buyout?

The only things I think of is sony or Nintendo being aquired.

Maybe Valve. No clue what they’d be valued at, but everyone seems to love engagement these days and they hit over 26 million concurrent users every single day.
 

yurinka

Member
Sony Music/Aniplex (not SIE/PlayStation/Jimbo) just bought Lasengle, previously known as the gamedev team of Delightworks.

They are the Japanese gamedev team who makes Fate/Grand Order, the mobile game that generates Sony ~$1B/year.

It isn't related to Jim Ryan buuuuut the president of Lasengle is Yoshinori Ono, previously know for being in charge of Street Fighter IV, Street Fighter V, Capcom's eSports and basically all Capcom fighting games until he resigned once covid destroyed all the huge eSports plans they had including having Street Fighter at the Tokyo Olympics.

This studio will be under Aniplex, which is under Sony Music and not under PS/SIE/Jimbo. But would be fun to acquire ARC, Capcom and Dimps and put this guy in charge of fighting games or EVO. Or at least to send him to Evo to say hi.
 
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CuNi

Member
DLC adds new story to the base game. You wont experience it, if you dont buy the dlc. Some times, DLC gives base game more coherant to the story.


If you are interested in the Witcher 3 universe, you absolutely need the dlc to experience it.


That is funny take. Only physical game owners pay for these dlcs.
Digital users get the full experience of the game for cheap. You save alot of money, if you buy the witcher 3 full edition, compared to disc edition, and buy the dlc later.

I doubt you buy digital games, or else you would have known that option.

I am at a loss for words.
No one ever denied DLC adding content, where did you even full this take from?
If you are interested in the Witcher Universe, I'd advice you to read the actual book than to get your "lore knowledge" from the game.
Also, you totally can buy the complete Edition as a Physical release? So what is even your point?
And what do you mean by "only physical game owners pay for these dlcs" ? If you buy any game digitally, you also have to buy the DLCs lol?
You get nothing for free my friend. And while it not being all games, many get a "complete" or "GotY" Edition with all DLCs included on disc?
I can play Bloodborne with the DLC from the Disc lol.

I also have like 700 games on Steam, I very well know that you can get games cheaper on digital but we never talked about what's cheaper or not, you're just moving the goalpost.
Original topic was about "PC GAMERS RIOT" when it comes to loosing ownership of their games library and this was already proven to be false.
"PC MASTER RACE!!" was the very first to give up ownership of games by focusing on steam and other digital storefronts, essentially only "renting the ability" to play said games. Lose your steam account lose all your games. That's a fact.
"PC MASTER RACE!!" was the one to accept MTX at first and even embrace it.

At this point, you tried to steer the conversation towards 3 different unrelated topics and lost in every single one of them :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:.
But keep replying, you became good entertainment on my discord server.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I agree but for different reasons, without these consolidation there is just too much chance of Meta, Tencent, Amazon acquisition. So these ensure at least somewhat preserve gaming
 
Nvidia had a substantial $1.5 billion blackout fee for ARM too. Guess what. It still isn't going through

It's not about preventing monopolies, it's ultimately about protecting consumer choice. From their lens, they're going to look at the Zenimax deal, and see they're taking consumer choice away, they're going to look at the ActBliz deal and see they're taking consumer choice away. They're going to be scrutinized even further for being a tech giant and the risk they pose if they continue on that type of heavy acquisition streak.

I'm still of the position it'll go through, but you're a fool if you can't see how regulators might want to block or condiationalise this.

Your talking about taking choice away from consumers... But MS could easily argue that their games will be available on xbox, PC (gamepass), PC (steam), Android, iPhone, tablet, and various TV streaming devices
 
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Your talking about taking choice away from consumers... But MS could easily argue that their games will be available on xbox, PC (gamepass), PC (steam)

I'm not sure how you can argue going from Xbox, PC, and PS too just Xbox and PC is improving choice. The fundemental issue they'll have like with everything is it's all within Microsoft's ecosysytem.
 
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Aenima

Member
The president of Lasengle is Yoshinori Ono, previously known for his role at Capcom being in charge of all their fighting games, eSports and the Street Fighter brand in particular.
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So weird that this particular dev is operating under Sony Music division when Playstation has created a mobile division already.
 

dotnotbot

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Mr Moose

Member
How does that conflict with what I said?

Anyways, everybody's favorite Blanka fan is in charge (still) of this new company.

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Oh I love Ono, he's part of this?
Me talking about reading the OP when I completely missed his name lol.
 
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Pejo

Member
Oh I love Ono, he's part of this?
Me talking about reading the OP when I completely missed his name lol.
Yea he took over in DelightWorks a while after he left Capcom and now he's the president of the new company.

Coincidentally under his "rule" we finally got a new Melty Blood. Looks like he stays true to his FGC roots at least.
 
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Woopah

Member
I forgot to add the word cheap


Cheap sh....


I don't understand Sony.

Its closes high quality studios and a very uniquely talented studio and with amazing artistic games…. And then they buys studios that no one cares about.
I'm not sure why you don't understand. PlayStation buys studios to help them make money, this is Sony music doing the same thing.
 

Menzies

Banned
There probably is a case to answer for leveraging assets from other business ventures to compete in new areas.

But I also think it could be argued this is their only recourse.

In the current landscape, Sony has a history of dominance. They can easily show evidence from generations where Microsoft is handily outsold 2:1 (at least). Sony then uses it's dominance in the market with third-parties to broker cheaper deals for exclusive content and timed releases. This means moves such as this are their only avenue to increase market competition.

Does the regulator then get to say you have to accept your current position because you're the big fish elsewhere and keep the status quo? Neither seems particularly 'fair'.
 
Who says they need to? If they own them, they can just sell off that part of the business to a company that even does that stuff, but with all of the Anime studios and companies they have been buying, its not like it wouldn't even be a fucking fit for them lol

So we know Sony buys based on those relationships they have with teams. Demon Souls, Bloodborne and even the rumor of them making a PS5 exclusive (not shocked btw) shows they are close and Sony might be willing to buy such a team to combat those lost RPGs thru MS's buyouts.

So I don't think anyone is guessing that "souly" based on "console warz", it makes logical sense even if none of this was going on sir. Sony buying a team they worked with isn't even a wild, out there assumption. Doing it now would make sense to fill out those gaps that will occur in the future based on IP Sony depended on coming to PS. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Outer Worlds, Pillars Of Eternity 3 etc Sony clearly must factor this, so I don't think Kadokawa or Square or anything like that should be shocking to anyone. Was Sony suppose to not want support? Have less content is good? lol I feel that purchase is not even going to be a "shock" type thing, it will be a "finally" type thing like we saw from Insomniac and Bluepoint.
Sony hasnt worked with From for eight years. Bloodborne was 2014.. it is 2022. Since then FROM soft has made 3 multiplatform games. This concept that From soft has a strong connection to Sony is greatly overexaggerated. From were not even involved in the Demon Souls remake. Even then the people who worked with From at Sony are long gone, right? Sony is an American company now. Not to mention that From has not even done the work on Bloodborne to make it PS5 ready.. or PS4 Pro ready.. and Sony fanboiz talk about this "Strong relationship".. they are barely talking..
 
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kingfey

Banned
I am at a loss for words.
No one ever denied DLC adding content, where did you even full this take from?
You are the one who looked down on dlc. Not me.

If you are interested in the Witcher Universe, I'd advice you to read the actual book than to get your "lore knowledge" from the game.
Gamers play games, not read books.

Also, you totally can buy the complete Edition as a Physical release? So what is even your point?
Not every game does that.

And what do you mean by "only physical game owners pay for these dlcs" ? If you buy any game digitally, you also have to buy the DLCs lol?
Games that dont have full edition disc.

You get nothing for free my friend. And while it not being all games, many get a "complete" or "GotY" Edition with all DLCs included on disc?
I get all complete package on sale for cheap. Instead of buying them separately. That saves me alot of money, which can be used to buy other games.

I can play Bloodborne with the DLC from the Disc lol.
Again, not every game allows that. Only big publishers who can print out 2nd game disc.

I also have like 700 games on Steam, I very well know that you can get games cheaper on digital but we never talked about what's cheaper or not, you're just moving the goalpost.
Then why are you keep writing PC master race then? Because 700 games on steam, makes you a pc master race too. So you are attacking yourself.

Original topic was about "PC GAMERS RIOT" when it comes to loosing ownership of their games library and this was already proven to be false.
Are you even a pc gamer to begin with? People were pissed about 70$ ff7r and Forespoken on steam and epic.

"PC MASTER RACE!!" was the very first to give up ownership of games by focusing on steam and other digital storefronts, essentially only "renting the ability" to play said games. Lose your steam account lose all your games. That's a fact.
Because they have long term library, compared to consoles. You cant play ps1-ps3 games on ps4 and ps5. same with xbox consoles. They had to use BC program on xbox to play those games. Steam users still have their 1st purchased games, and can play those games. Consoles dont have that option again.

"PC MASTER RACE!!" was the one to accept MTX at first and even embrace it.
We are going to ignore all that adds on the consoles had? You know those unlock characters, maps? Or that dlc golden armor horse on oblivion?

"The first microtransaction sold by a major publisher was in 2006 when Bethesda sold horse armor in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion for $2.50. It was made as an experiment to test the market's reaction to DLC. Most players reacted negatively, claiming that $2.50 for an in-game cosmetic item was too much."

At this point, you tried to steer the conversation towards 3 different unrelated topics and lost in every single one of them :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:.
But keep replying, you became good entertainment on my discord server.
You are the one who started conversation, which you had no clue about it. You didnt even know the 1st game which started mtx movement. Your points are pretty much worthless.
 

kyliethicc

Member
There's definitely a case to be made that some of it is good.

Pros:
  • Increased funding for several studios that were floundering with minimal investment and wasted potential (Ex: Obsidian, Ninja Theory, Double Fine, Insomniac, etc.). This will result in better games.
  • Xbox gamers get any of the acquisition games at no additional cost if they're subbed to Gamepass. Dramatic financial savings.
Cons:
  • They're exclusive to one console.
To me, so far the pros outweigh the cons because I already passed the point of finding all 3 consoles worth it. For now, it's been relatively positive for me.
The main con of publishers consolidating is it reduces the number of ways for developers to get funding. Ultimately Microsoft now controls what used to 3 separate ways to get a game funded.

Less options means devs have less leverage and it can result in fewer games being made. It gives each publisher more power to say no and force devs to change their games to get deals.
 
Where would we be today if the US government had succeeded in breaking up Microsoft 20 years ago? I think they tried to break it up into 3 companies; Operating systems, productivity software, and internet software.
 

Knightime_X

Member
I like them.
What worries me is if a game is exclusive but the console is hard to get it will severely hurt sales.

Some games like street fighter and king of fighters greatly benefit from being multipleplat.
 

Star-Lord

Member
If they were to acquire any studios at all, it would be out of Square Enix, Capcom, and Fromsoftware. I’d personally put good money on Square Enix; they have a good history with Sony. Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider both secured their fame on the original PlayStation.
 
If they were to acquire any studios at all, it would be out of Square Enix, Capcom, and Fromsoftware. I’d personally put good money on Square Enix; they have a good history with Sony. Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider both secured their fame on the original PlayStation.
Square Enix is the only one of those three that actually may be looking for a buyer. The other 2 are very happy as they are.
 
I think we need to look at the math here and realize while Sony is a large company, it’s NOT a Microsoft. I could see some smaller purchases from them over time, but unlikely anything earth shattering.

I don’t see Sony making a large purchase of a company like EA — which has a market cap of around 40 billion dollars, and Sony itself is around 135 billion dollar market cap. That’s a pretty significant purchase for Sony to swallow, and doesn’t make sense when you compare their company sizes. EA is around 1/3 the size of Sony. Doesn’t mean that a purchase of EA by Sony is impossible, just unlikely.

I could maybe envision a take two purchase by Sony as that company is about half the market cap of EA, around 18 billion so that’s not unfathomable but still large, and even then for Sony it’s still a significant investment. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible either, just more foreseeable.

A Bungie purchase makes sense because relative to Sony’s size, 3.6 billion dollars isn’t as hard to swallow as the bigger players. It would not be inconceivable for Sony to begin buying some “smaller companies” from the likes of Capcom (market cap 6 billion US) or Konami (7.5 billion market cap), or Square Enix (6 billion market cap). These purchases, whichever one they choose, would make more sense relative to Sony’s purchasing power.

I know as gamers we like to throw around “x company should buy y company because z reasons” but that’s not how it works. A company like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, or Apple have money that Sony simply doesn’t have. Sony itself could be bought out by any of these companies, as that company would automatically gain a large entertainment and hardware business, services, among other things.
How dare you come in here spewing common sense and statistics…you should be ashamed of yourself 😂
 
Microsoft has a history of mishandling studios and Sony has been making more and more questionable moves in recent years. I don't trust either of these companies to manage these studios and franchises well.

As a PC player it doesn't seem like these acquisitions will affect my ability to play those games, but I wouldn't be surprised if the quality of any future games were impaired.
 

Ogbert

Member
On the whole, dropping hints on publicly listed companies is how CEOs end up in jail. He isn’t teasing anything.
 

Aenima

Member
The dream would be able to just purchase one plastic box and have all games available on that box. The diferent console manufactors could try to atract consumers using services and hardware features without needing game exclusives. All games and devs would gain more from being multiplatform and having a bigger install base, especially multiplayer games.

When you go buy a movie in Blu-Ray, you know it will work in ur Blu-Ray player, u dont have exclusives movies for Sony Blu-Ray players or Samsung Players. In the other end you have streaming services and TV shows that are a total shit show and its fragmented by alot streaming services with exclusive content. Its terrible for consumers cuz if you like 3 diferent TV shows and they all end up being in diferent services, then you have to purchase 3 subscriptions or just watch 1 of the shows to save money. And this is the way videogames are going. (always been like this, but with all this aquisitions its going to be much worst)

Im glad i keep purchasing physical games, cuz the day the videogame industry is too fragmented like the TV streaming services are. Its time to get a PC and go Jack Sparrow on all that shit.
 
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ZoukGalaxy

Member
You have some good points but too much acquisitions can lead to monopoly with the risk to dictate everything for the leader: that's what I am terribly afraid of.
Microsoft opened a potentially dangerous box.

So, it's a no for me, let's keep diversity and independence.

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Ogbert

Member
Look at it another way. Is an American regulator going to go after an American company, that has purchased an American company, in order to give American consumers the associated products at a significantly lower cost of entry in order to protect…..

A Japanese company.
 

CuNi

Member
You are the one who looked down on dlc. Not me.
I never looked down on dlc, quote me on that, I challenge you lol.

Gamers play games, not read books.
That tells me everything I need to know about you.

Not every game does that.
And not every game has a digital complete edition, again what's you point? You can't nitpick examples that fit your argument and ignore all the counters to it.

Games that dont have full edition disc.
And digital games that don't have complete editions either?

I get all complete package on sale for cheap. Instead of buying them separately. That saves me alot of money, which can be used to buy other games.
You buy bundles, this is different than "complete editions". And yes it's cheaper, no one said Physical is cheaper? Argument was, when you get banned, Physical Owners can still play their games, you cannot.

Again, not every game allows that. Only big publishers who can print out 2nd game disc.
And not every publisher does complete editions either so you have to separately buy the dlcs too.

Then why are you keep writing PC master race then? Because 700 games on steam, makes you a pc master race too. So you are attacking yourself.
Because "PC master race" is such a shit take, I don't even want to be part of a "pc master race". Looking at the development towards GaaS, gaming in whole is going down the shit. PC and Console alike.

Are you even a pc gamer to begin with? People were pissed about 70$ ff7r and Forespoken on steam and epic.
You know, there is this thing called "choice". You seem to not understand it's concept since the whole point of this conversation is "There are Pros and Cons when going Digital vs Physical" yet you somehow felt attacked when I pointed out that there are benefits for going physical on console lol. What are you getting so defensive about? Where did a physical game release hurt you that you feel the need to try and fight it so much?

Because they have long term library, compared to consoles. You cant play ps1-ps3 games on ps4 and ps5. same with xbox consoles. They had to use BC program on xbox to play those games. Steam users still have their 1st purchased games, and can play those games. Consoles dont have that option again.
No they don't? There are many games that don't work because of old requirements that modern PCs are just "to modern" for. Or games weren't made with future proofing and simply either refuse to outright launch or run like crap etc.
Also, with VR rising, you already have segregated hardware tied libraries. Got a Valve Index and want to play Resident Evil 4 VR? Guess you can ask Zuckerberg, but you'll have to buy a META VR Headset to play that game. Whoops!

We are going to ignore all that adds on the consoles had? You know those unlock characters, maps? Or that dlc golden armor horse on oblivion?

"The first microtransaction sold by a major publisher was in 2006 when Bethesda sold horse armor in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion for $2.50. It was made as an experiment to test the market's reaction to DLC. Most players reacted negatively, claiming that $2.50 for an in-game cosmetic item was too much."


You are the one who started conversation, which you had no clue about it. You didnt even know the 1st game which started mtx movement. Your points are pretty much worthless.
Which is wrong. A quick google search would have told you that the first Microtransactions date back to Double Dragon 3 in 1990, a arcade game where you could buy upgrades in a shop in exchange for coins you'd toss into the machine. On Windows it most likely was MapleStory which came out in 2003. Must hurt to not even get that right huh?

Point is.
Physical has the benefit of permanence. You can pop in 99,9% of the games you own into your console now, or in a 100 years. Your console can be hardware banned or you can live in a cottage with no internet. You can play that game.
You can even resell it if you don't feel like playing it anymore. You can lend it. You can't do that on digital, only if you create a new account for every game you own, then you could sell or lend it obviously. Steam sharing could be seen as lending, but you cannot both be online so it's just a semi workaround either.
Digital has the benefit of being cheaper and widely available.

No one claims otherwise. But you also have to include the drawbacks, which are:
Physical, if you break your disc, well you're out of luck and need to get a new one. And it's more expensive.
Digital on the other hand, if your account gets banned, everything is gone. You cannot resell games, only if as said above you got a account for every game. You can only resell your whole account and that's even against TOS of all Storefronts. You need a internet connection to download those games in most cases. On console, you had the incident of the internal battery dying and MS/Sony having to issue patches so that once the service goes offline those games can be played without authentication. Also, once your service goes dark, you cannot even claim your games anymore. If Steam or any other Storefront were to go out of business, so does your games library.

There is no "perfect" way to buy games. There are only tradeoffs and claiming one is better than the other is a blatant lie. It all comes down what each person values more.
 
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