kingfey
Banned
oh twitter. I guess it drains people brain, and the ability to think.
Ask the fanboys (& fangirls) begging Joe Biden to stop the deal on Twitter.
I swear, you can't make this shit up
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Kagey K
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So basically you cry MS is trying for a monopoly, but secretly want Sony to have a monopoly….
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Microsoft unleashes ‘Death Star’ on SolarWinds hackers in extraordinary response to breach
Analysis: This week Microsoft took a series of dramatic steps against the recent SolarWinds supply chain attack. In the size, speed and scope of its actions, Microsoft has reminded the world that it can still muster firepower like no one else as a nearly-overwhelming force for good.
www.geekwire.com
R3claimer117
Member
This is not a good comparison considering starfeild and ES6 can come out and do 20 million each and ESO is on game pass and they still have 5 or 6 other studios that come with this acquisition that can potentially make a hit. Ehhhh
kingfey
Banned
he is ceo of MS for a reason. Dude changed MS face, and made the company stable for long term plan.
He chats with these guys alot. Considering how much shit he bought, that is not part of xbox.
Then that’s the precise definition of a self-inflicted injury.
This is basically the modern FTC
Tell that to NVIDiA.
We used to have posters here some years back with a massive post talking about how the PS2s overwhelming dominance ‘ushered in a golden age of gaming’.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Of course it was, but that's not a bad thing as Pachter implies. Jimbo wanted a slice of that GaaS pie, realized that his company lacked the know-how to do so, so he spent a lot (a lot...) of money to gain the know-how. Nothing wrong with that. The high cost just makes it a bigger gamble, but the gamble could still pay off.
kingfey
Banned
They didnt care about gaming at that time. Plus ps2 was a dvd system. That was their saving grace.
R3claimer117
Member
Lmao
that’s not how life works I don’t want to pay federal and state taxes I woke up to 500 dollars out of my check today for programs the government funds that I don’t approve off but they took it anyways. Business is business there’s a lot of things we don’t want to do but if you want to play those games you have to find a way.
MaulerX
Member
kingfey
Banned
look at chip shortages. That would have been insane, If nvidia arm deal went through. They will basically control most of the electronic devices in the world. That is a huge power monopoly.
R3claimer117
Member
Lol where was this when Sony basically bullied sega out of the market? Almost did Nintendo in as well. The irony here is if Microsoft hadn’t jumped in Nintendo would have been destroyed by Sony by now.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
SenjutsuSage
Banned
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
I'm cheering for Sony acquisition not because of "my games on my favorite console only", but to prevent other corporation from snagging it.
I don't really care much about acquisitions UNTIL the acquisition of Zenimax and Activision by Microsoft.
If there is a mega corporation out there snagging up mega publishers left and right, you would hope for acquisitions by your favorite company as a defensive position as well, im just being realistic here, just like every playstation/xbox gamer out there.
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kingfey
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MS would have bought Nintendo by that time. Sony were the lucky ones. If MS didnt step in, Sony would dominate the market. Nintendo would let MS buy them for cheap.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Agreed; sometimes too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Plus I don't like the idea of centralizing control & flow of information (including who gets to determine what's "right" information) to a small handful of massive conglomerates working in tandem with global government organizations. We already have enough of a headache with that as-is.
Also like you said, the effect of being plugged in 24/7, what will that do to kids? IMO the current youth already struggle with genuine identity (not tied to social media) and lack of creative & critical thinking skills compared to prior generations (I'd say there's a solid cut-off point of pre-iPhone/post-iPhone); having them connected to the Metaverse 24/7 will just hasten the decline.
We should show more moderation in reliance on technology, sometimes it's like tech is advancing so quickly it's actually causing a lot of people to regress in person-to-person skills, critical thinking skills etc. That's why I limit social media super-hard, the most is probably posting on these forums (which I guess technically count as a form of social media, but not the same breed like Twitter or such, thankfully).
R3claimer117
Member
Nvidia situation is not the same as this btw. That would be like Microsoft buying all third party publishers and Nintendo to compete with Sony.
R3claimer117
Member
I don’t think it was for cheap I think Nintendo just didn’t want to lose to Sony or seem like they bowed out to Sony to let an American company save them it was a pride thing.
The biggest point to me seems that he is open to concessions but if they become general rules/laws for everyone who's going to compete in the same space in the future.
Basically he's asking for a legal guarantee that in the future Meta,Google, Amazon will be regulated as well through the implementation of clear laws/rules and not to be the only one to be regulated or asked to make concessions.
Which is fair imo.
In any case if they're talking about this on the Financial Times it means the general issue of fair competition in the metaverse is absolutely real otherwise there wouldn't be any need to even comment on it.
Basically he's asking for a legal guarantee that in the future Meta,Google, Amazon will be regulated as well through the implementation of clear laws/rules and not to be the only one to be regulated or asked to make concessions.
Which is fair imo.
In any case if they're talking about this on the Financial Times it means the general issue of fair competition in the metaverse is absolutely real otherwise there wouldn't be any need to even comment on it.
Kilau
Member
He must be dividing Series sales numbers by 2.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Perhaps Sony buying Bungie was not a response to Activision's buy-out specifically, but it may have been a response to the Bethesda acquisition and the foregone conclusion that Microsoft would continue to purchase more big-name studios and publishers.
username12
Member
We don't have $70 billion to spend.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Yes because he was totally going to say Gee I don't really know if this thing is going through, I mean if it doesn't we'll lose over $3B and that's really bad.
-You think that's something the CEO of multi trillion dollar company would tell to journalists of the Financial Times?
If you can't even fathom the fact that looking and sounding confident about Microsoft's deals is part of his $50M/year job, then you might be interested in this bridge I have for sale.
tpieman2029
Member
This makes me pretty sure theyre going after more pubs after this.
They seem to prey on pubs going thru hard finacial times.
right now thats basically just wb and ubisoft and neither seem likely, one is dependent on licensed ips and the other has resisted selling before so idk.
They seem to prey on pubs going thru hard finacial times.
right now thats basically just wb and ubisoft and neither seem likely, one is dependent on licensed ips and the other has resisted selling before so idk.
Zeroing
Banned
Let’s be realistic here, corporations just want more control, when MS joined the Apple lawsuit it was only for a piece of the Apple “pie”
In gaming it seems they want to eat all of the pie.
Anyway now seriously the CEO of MS wouldn’t be saying that if it was Google who brought Activision…
In gaming it seems they want to eat all of the pie.
Anyway now seriously the CEO of MS wouldn’t be saying that if it was Google who brought Activision…
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PlaystationFan5349
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On Microsoft? Non sense. They have nothing to investigate, Microsoft can go and buy take two, Capcom and SE and still they wouldn’t have anything to investigate. If Microsoft were to buy Sony or Nintendo then that should be investigated.
yurinka
Member
Even after the acquisition MS won't even be the 2nd in the gaming market, or even specifically in consoles. Or in PC. Or in mobile. Or in VR. They aren't market leaders even in game subscriptions. As Satya Nutella says, they'll barely have around 10% of the gaming market. There is absolutely no reason to block this acquisition.
Do you remember Second Life and PS Home? Basically that with better visuals, and in some cases in VR.
The Japanese goverment doesn't allow to sell Sony or Nintendo to foreigner companies. So even if Sony and Nintendo would want to sell that wouldn't happen.
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kingfey
Banned
That guy knows more than you will ever know, in your entire life.
MaulerX
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I would say Spiderman going from multi-platform to exclusive, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter etc.... is what made MS say "Wait a minute...". They got murdered online for the Tomb Raider timed exclusive (even though Sony got a pass for doing a full Tomb Raider exclusive for the OG Playstation) so they figured the only way is to buy and own just to compete.
kingfey
Banned
WB makes more sense. Not big publisher like capcom. Plus the deal would be viewed as outside gaming deal.
lastmessiah
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And don't forget about
Diablo Immortal
The Eternal Conflict between angels and demons comes to mobile in Diablo Immortal for iPhone, iPad and Android.
diabloimmortal.blizzard.com
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
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Topher
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Nankatsu
Member
Joking. Because in this case it was 100% laziness from the devs. We all know Nintendo Switch can support much better good looking games than that.
ToTTenTranz
Banned
Of course he does, including the fact that he can't show anything less than 200% confidence in the deal going forward.
Which is apparently something above the limited comprehension of some people out there.
oldergamer
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Did this thread appear as deleted?
lastmessiah
Member
You're the guy who claimed Activision and Blizzard have no relevance in the mobile market. Limited comprehension indeed.
Topher
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lostinblue
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With was merged with the "Nintendo on acquisitions: people without nintendo dna in our group would not be a plus".
Black_Stride
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Id take a long step back before accusing people of having limited comprehension.
ChuckeRearmed
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Wasn't it UK that blocked the deal? (Though it is not blocked yet)
And it is not even the same situation. It would be akin Microsoft buying Internet lol
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kingfey
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Dude, this guy delt with them. MS bought tons of companies before $70b activision. He know how to deal with them.
You think they are stupid to drop that much, if they werent confident about this deal?
They could have bought 4 big publishers with that money.
Vasto
Member
And don't forget about
Diablo Immortal
The Eternal Conflict between angels and demons comes to mobile in Diablo Immortal for iPhone, iPad and Android.
Thanks, I just pre registered .
PlaystationFan5349
Banned
That’s a good rule, prevents japanese companies going under.
So realistically there’s nothing that Microsoft can do that would be considered a monopolistic practice. They are the underdog and there are thousands of game studios.
sainraja
Member
Everyone here needs to relax and stop calling each other out based on a landscape that is constantly changing. Given everything that has happened the past few weeks (that no one saw coming), do you ALL really need to act so immaturely — bringing up things people may have said in the past as a "gotcha" moment? Are ya'll serious? lol come on guys. You can do better than this.
Another thing that really gets me is why anyone here would want any of the two companies to OWN everything. Yeah, we should acknowledge and assess the situation based on what has happened but it is perfectly fine for people to say that the deal will go through and also perfectly fine for others to point out why it might not go through. I know its hard and I have been guilty of this too (and regret it) but it's time to move on from what may have been said, may not have been said to what is happening now.
Just chill.
Another thing that really gets me is why anyone here would want any of the two companies to OWN everything. Yeah, we should acknowledge and assess the situation based on what has happened but it is perfectly fine for people to say that the deal will go through and also perfectly fine for others to point out why it might not go through. I know its hard and I have been guilty of this too (and regret it) but it's time to move on from what may have been said, may not have been said to what is happening now.
Just chill.
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Kagey K
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That’s 2.75 more Bungies.