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Metal Gear Solid Community |OT4| God Bless the Chopper!
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
Guys stop fighting
Regarding the chip on my shoulder comment, How do you figure that? There's nothing wrong with speculation, speculating about a feature we have known about for around a year is wrong? If so my bad.
Don't post such things? Things We have talked about as early as last year? Seriously? Your trying to reach but your not grabbing anything.
Wait, it's unlocking in AUS at 10am Eastern?
you are being seriously vicious to people who just want the community thread to be as spoiler-free as possible. please respect the fact this is the only thread left for that.
Strazyplus
Member
Shadow_Lord
Member
Stop the fighting guys. I don't give a fuck about what petty arguments you guys are having. This topic is for the celebration of Metal Gear. Not to defend your egos in an e-fight. Suck it up, agree to disagree, and just let the hype of being LESS THAN ONE DAY away from TPP take over you.
endlessflood
Member
It's just after 2 PM on the 31/8/15 here right now. In 10 hours it will be midnight (AEST) on the 1/9/15.
Midnight for me, atleast that's what the countdown clock in my Library says.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
This is it brothers, the final day is ahead. It's been an honour.
Strazyplus
Member
Seriously vicious? You guys are trying to force me out of the thread. How do you want me to react? Spoilers and speculative discussion aren't the same thing. I was speculating about a feature that's already known and already been discussed. There wasn't even a hint of a spoiler in my post but yet people reacted in a condescending manner yet I'm to leave the thread and keep quiet.
I'm done with this conversation, I don't want to argue with you about something that I didn't even do.
I may have gotten annoyed as well, for that I'm sorry but still my point stands, trying to force people out of threads for trying to get your fellow gaffers hyped after though whole Dawg and Quiet thing, is as Spaghetti would say, a dick move.
Where was I trying to force you out of the thread?
I got the posts mixed up, disregard what I wrote.
Strazyplus
Member
At last it seems to come to a end, nobody has to leave the thread, lets stop talking about this and move on. if persons keep bringing it up (publicly; go take it into PM) we will beat them up.
I am going to bed the thread is sort of ruined for me tonight with all this fighting. hopfully we countdown the hours again tomorrow!
Strazyplus
Member
we are going to reach 100 before unlock arn't we! XD
What happened here..
Hype is making people lose their minds. Nothing to see here, move along.
Looks like it.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
What difficulty?
beatdowniidx
Member
normal, but i'm breezing through it. literally just running through the rooms without being spotted.
hah. i tried 3 on a friend's vita and my biggest difficulty was shooting in first person because of the screen size.try it on the vita
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
Well then, it's try for some Hard, Game Over on Discovered.
seriously. that stuff is good background information. it made me a bit sad when people complained about paz in ground zeroes not being a fleshed out character when she's easily got the most character development in the entire game when you listen to the tapes.
ground zeroes spoilers:
just adds to the fact she was a tragic character. a lot of people thought her ending was crass and unwarranted (and to some degree it was kinda gross), but it was a sad end to a sad character. she died after she finally managed to unpick the brainwashing cipher had imprinted onto her for years and years. she found liberty in death. mgs deals a lot in characters finding their own personal liberty, and paz follows that same arc. she wasn't a throw-away expendable character like some people said she was, she had as much development and pathos as some of the main character of the mgs series
Yeah. A lot of people just take the, I don't know what phrase to use, pandering maybe? as gospel when it came to her character. "Oh, so she's a 20 something who looks like she's 13, but it's okay because she's not!" as all that her character consists of. The date / bikini photoshots probably didn't help ... but damn if her overall character arc isn't some depressing shit.
don't get me wrong. i do have a european extreme run under my belt from years ago. i was just playing mgs2 as a time killer but even then i'm finding it ridiculously easy to the point where i'm practically speed running by accident. i've been spoiled by 14 years of gameplay improvements and AI development.
it's a shame people don't look further beyond the wacky, cheesecakey stuff. there's a lot of good character moments that a lot of people don't even see because they don't bother with the stuff like the tapes.
more ground zeroes spoilers:
it also annoys me a bit that people took it as gospel that chico was forced to rape paz. i took it as the complete opposite, and after listening to all the tapes again i'm certain that was the case. chico sold out big boss because he couldn't bring himself to violate paz. skullface knew that's what would break chico.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I'd say the AI got dumber since mgs2.
MGS3 was roughly the same. MGS4 guards were weak. Peace Walker guards were MGS1 tier.
MGSV guards are the best so far.
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Xpike
Unconfirmed Member
Peace Walker had the disadvantage of being on PSP, but yeah, they were a complete joke
i dunno, moving from the vision cones to the camo index made the guards better at spotting you from further distances. their hearing was better too. can't for the life of me remember what the mgs4 guards were like though, but octocamo made it easier to get a higher camo index and so long as you were staying still you'd be fine.
mgsv guards are very impressive though. one neat thing i noticed about them is that their vision is still kinda based on what the guard 'sees'. i got away sneaking right in front of a guard because his head was turned away even though they were walking right towards me.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
There is an invisible camo index in mgs2. When you wear the enemy uniform, even without the baclava, guards must be closer to see you. I am not making this up.
Yeah, the guards hearing was a good improvement in 3. 3 also introduced havin to crouch or prone for better hidden coverage which is only logical. In 2 it is purely distance based.
Zambatoh
Member
I'm pretty sure that is wrong. Anytime I wore the uniform w/ Balaclava, the only way the guards could ever possibly detect me is if I acted suspicious or if I bumped into them, knocking the suit off.
MGS3 was not the same at all, it had significantly dumbed down the AI comapred to MGS2. MGS4 AI was fine, especially at the time and the guards had great hearing, even better than in GZ.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Yes, I am referring to when the mask is off.
It makes a difference. Not makin this up. Have tested it.
Zambatoh
Member
Never mind. I can't read for shit. It's 1 AM here. I'm tired.
I'll need to re-listen to those tapes to get a refresher on the events, I haven't listened to them since January or so.
I'm leaving Chico's tapes for last, right now listening to some of the other tapes.
GZ Spoilers
Obviously, the future was already set in stone since we're dealing with prequels but it's interesting how Huey, directly or indirectly, is in some form responsible for the fall of Boss and the creation of Outer Heaven. How he essentially defied Boss's order to deny the nuclear inspection caused the destruction of Mother Base and the death of many, many of Boss's soldiers.