DJSebolski
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Well if you own both games the Redux will cost you $25. If you wait you will pay $50.
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Metro: Redux |OT| Once more into the Metro, with feeling!
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Well if you own both games the Redux will cost you $25. If you wait you will pay $50.
Phat Michael
Banned
to the dude who msgd me on XB1 last night: sorry i havent touched the game. I installed it before i went to bed but ive been playing Diablo 3 non stop. will post some impressions on the weekend as im at work during the day and evenings im either playing cricket after work then go home and play Diablo until midnight...
Sword Of Doom
Member
I saw some comparison shots and the Redux for Metro LL seems to be too bright in some locations. Especially outside in daytime. Atmosphere doesn't seem as good
Stratosphere
Member
Based on my skimming of this thread, is the only detractor from the PS4 version compared to PC the lack of volumetric lighting? Does it significantly affect the mood/atmosphere of the game? I'd really prefer to comfy couch this one if I won't be missing out on much compared to the PC version.
Guys how should i play my first playthrough of Metro 2033:R ? is there a "gold standard" like with TLoU (hard+listen mode off) that most people recommend?
All those modes seems confusing and i don't know what is most recommended, of course i want it to be challenging but fair and not get too frustrated with my first playthrough.
All those modes seems confusing and i don't know what is most recommended, of course i want it to be challenging but fair and not get too frustrated with my first playthrough.
Dictator93
Member
PS4 version will also not have environment tesselation (and may or may not have screen space reflections, DF is horrible at noticing these things).
Yes it affects the mood, how much? Depends, I think it does quite a bit.
@ comfy couch - why not just hook the PC up to TV and use a controller? I do that all the time when friends come over or my girlfriend wants to play something.
I will play through 2033 again with Survival Mode on Ranger Hardcore. No HUD, low Ammo, no (in the case of QTEs, prompts I imagine).
Not sure if I would recommend this to everyone. It can be more frustrating if you have not played the games before. But in all honesty, metro LL's game systems in 2033 probably make it much easier than the first time around...
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Anyone here have a Spanish copy if the game on XB1? Just arrived in Spain and forgot to cancel my UK order but I will today.
So reason to ask about a Spanish copy does the game have English voice/subs. Most 360 games did but a few didnt and I expect new gen would due to having Bluray sizes. But would like to know before I decide on a digital download since I prefer disc copies.
So reason to ask about a Spanish copy does the game have English voice/subs. Most 360 games did but a few didnt and I expect new gen would due to having Bluray sizes. But would like to know before I decide on a digital download since I prefer disc copies.
RedAssedApe
Banned
my thoughts as well. the aesthetic of the outdoor scenes look better to me in the original in the comparison videos and screenshots that have been posted.
therealminime
Member
Definitely going to pick up the 2033 Redux, but will probably skip the LL one because it really doesn't seem like it needs or has gotten much treatment. Plus I've got most of the DLC. 2033 Redux is looking really good though. I hope that those performance charts posted above aren't completely accurate because it seems really weird that there is basically no performance increase between 2033 and the redux version. There is definitely a big performance increase for me from 2033 to LL. Here's hoping.
That's the problem, 2033 redux doesn't have volumetric lightning as the original version, so even with the other improvements (improvement is very obvious, there are a lot of videos comparing both games and Redux is better in general), Redux should should run better than the original 2033 and that's not true if we see those benchmarks.
Same thing with Last Light.
4AGames said that Redux versions will run better than the older version thanks to a better optimization, and it seems to be a false statement.
Dictator93
Member
Optimization can mean "removing stuff."
Also, Redux has Volumetric light, just not as often placed as in 2033.
v0mitg0d
Member
Streaming the first hour or so of Metro Last Light Redux on XBO. Come hang with me:
http://www.twitch.tv/eatgames
http://www.twitch.tv/eatgames
angular graphics
Banned
Well, the graphics menu didn't change from the original (or LL) - I was hoping for more options this time
Boo. As ridiculous as Crysis 2 was. I'm really disappointed with 4A on this one..
Well, less volumetric light compared to original 2033, LL uses much less volumetric light compared to 2033 too, but is much better technically than its predecessor.
I made a thread but if you plan to buy the console version, Best Buy is giving a $10 Gift Card with purchase next week.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878918
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878918
Dictator93
Member
No one said that at all. On all accounts, it should look much better in almost all categories.
derExperte
Member
No, only preorder according to them on the Steam forum afair.
Jeez, that is an extremely harsh downgrade for PC...
I really miss the color shifting light. Unique look. Now it looks like COD on Xbox 360.
I know this is not exactly what you are looking for, but you cannot go wrong with either as they are both excellent games. You could consider getting only 2033 (if you are getting a digital copy) and see if you like it enough to buy LL as well.
Gordon0Freeman
Member
This will be a perfect filler game for between the days of waiting for Destiny. Better thing is, I've never played any of these games and am basically clueless about the story
How big are the campaigns?
How big are the campaigns?
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
i saw it sitting at microplay today, and asked if i could buy it, he said no ):
Probably should've phrased it differently; it RUNS worse, not IS worse.
Dictator93
Member
Only if you are on AMD (tessellation) from what I can see. Probably runs the same if you turn down the tesselation / use CCC to force it to scale more.
clutch.as.it.gets.
Member
Ok but this
2033 Redux
http://a.pomf.se/kpritg.webm
2033 Original
http://a.pomf.se/nibpvq.webm
And this
Are reasons to be scared, is way better on the original versions.
Wow. And wow not in a good way.
And why did they make Redux so bright and washed out? The old darker colours and lighting looked much better and more appealing - what were they thinking?
So far what i have read in the reviews, the reviewers say that they are running better than the originals.. one even said, that LL on the same settings went from 15 fps in the original to 50 in Redux (you saw how does tesselation look in Redux, did you? and that motion blur is too reduced)
Well, 2033 Redux has overall better graphics than the original, but some great looking effects are missing which addded a lot to the atmosphere.. but otherwise, i would still recommend the Redux edition.. the AI was maybe too good in 2033
too hard, frustratingly many times - that's why stealth didn't work that good.. responsivness of weapons wasn't the best too, enemies didn't reacted properly to getting shot, many loading screens - some levels lasted only to 5 -10 minutes,... this all should be fixed in this Redux version.. And when it comes to LL, graphics are almost the same, Survival mode to make LL more harder like 2033, you have all DLCs there, etc..
So it's really up to you to decide if you like this changes or not - and want you pay again for the game(s)..
That sounds like magical optimization, no...that's a miracle and impossible, i don't know what review said that but a good optimization could make the game gain at most 30fps... And only in games that have a horrible optimization.
Metro LL has a good optimization (if we doesn't count physx) and i seriously doubt that kind of miraculous improvement on framerate.
Sorry about my english btw...
Physx is well optimized. It's just legitimately costly.
Dragon1893
Member
Considering Spartan + Ranger for my first playthrough of 2033, only played the original on normal.
Having a hard time deciding though, might go with Survivor since it's more appealing to me but I'm curious to see how Spartan changes the game.
Maybe I'll save Survivor for a second playthrough since it should be harder, otherwise it will be a step down in difficulty.
Having a hard time deciding though, might go with Survivor since it's more appealing to me but I'm curious to see how Spartan changes the game.
Maybe I'll save Survivor for a second playthrough since it should be harder, otherwise it will be a step down in difficulty.
Iced_Eagle
Member
I owned Metro 2033 on Steam, went to look at pre-ordering the bundle and funnily enough it turned out to be cheaper for me to buy Metro:LL (since I didn't own it) since it's on midweek madness and then pre-order the bundle. With the 50% off the bundle, in total it saved me about $7 doing that.
Can't wait to play it!
Can't wait to play it!
Not really, no. You do get all of the DLC and the added difficulty modes, along with gameplay tweaks here and there in LL Redux.
The bottom line here is that this collection is clearly geared towards giving console players the true Metro experiences they missed out by not having a beefy PC last-gen. Redux is a pretty solid upgrade for the PC but in the transition to the Last Light engine some things were lost. (some volumetric lighting as we've seen) LL is essentially the same, (people need to stop posting that image and watch this LL vs. LL Redux comparison video instead) with the new global illumination making some of the outdoor areas a little bit brighter in LL. You also get the two new difficulty modes in Spartan and Survival.
4A knew all along it was going to be a hard sell on the PC versions as the originals in themselves are fairly solid, which is why they offered the fairly generous Steam discount.
Has anyone played the PS4 version? I'm stuck on Metro 2033 Redux because of a bug which is driving me crazy.
When you reach the tunnel with ghosts, you have to get into a train and see the ghost of a child (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnFnS4iPw9o 2:20 mark). The thing is they have added a spider web right in the middle of the train, making it impossible to continue.
I have taken a picture: http://i.imgur.com/4XpIPLN.jpg
I want to keep playing, but I cannot pass that fucking web
I have taken a picture: http://i.imgur.com/4XpIPLN.jpg
I want to keep playing, but I cannot pass that fucking web
Has anyone played the PS4 version? I'm stuck on Metro 2033 Redux because of a bug which is driving me crazy.
When you reach the tunnel with ghosts, you have to get into a train and see the ghost of a child (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnFnS4iPw9o 2:20 mark). The thing is they have added a spider web right in the middle of the train, making it impossible to continue.
I have taken a picture: http://i.imgur.com/4XpIPLN.jpg
I want to keep playing, but I cannot pass that fucking web
I haven't played 2033 Redux yet, but my best guess is that you need to
use your lighter to burn the spider web. This was in Last Light and I think it's something that was transferred to 2033 Redux, and I'd bet that's what it is.
Don't know the button prompt for it though unfortunately.
Try up on the D-pad.
OMG I love you. Now I feel stupid, I've been stuck there reloading thousands of times :lol
v0mitg0d
Member
Thanks for all who hung out with me on the stream. I archived them both (played through the first hour of both games.) on YT.
First hour of Metro Last Light Redux on XBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kxm4DsB6MQ
First hour of Metro 2033 Redux on XBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMVfbp5YIA
First hour of Metro Last Light Redux on XBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kxm4DsB6MQ
First hour of Metro 2033 Redux on XBO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMVfbp5YIA
Thanks for posting these, I'll skim through them later today. How does it look on the XO? That's what I'll be playing on.
Why is everyone saying that Metro Last Light was more oriented to action than to stealth like 2033? .. in 2033 on Hard (or Ranger mode?) i tried to play stealthy but it only lasted at the beginning of a combat situation - stealth just wasn't very good in 2033, so i mostly just shot everyone who tried to kill me .. in LL stealth was much better, much more powerfull, more things available to use - to be stealthy - yeah, it did make the game much more easier, but i think most people used stealth in LL than only to go guns blazing.. when it comes to human enemies, i almost didn't killed a single one of them.. mostly just mutants, when you had no other chance than to shoot at them.. yeah i know that in LL even in Ranger mode you had enough of bullets and filters, so it wasn't as hardcore or survival like 2033, but i can't be the only one who played through this games this way, right?
.. in LL stealth was much better, much more powerfull, more things available to use - to be stealthy - yeah, it did make the game much more easier, but i think most people used stealth in LL than only to go guns blazing.. when it comes to human enemies, i almost didn't killed a single one of them.. mostly just mutants, when you had no other chance than to shoot at them.. yeah i know that in LL even in Ranger mode you had enough of bullets and filters, so it wasn't as hardcore or survival like 2033, but i can't be the only one who played through this games this way, right?I had forgotten this was coming up. I'm having a hard time deciding between this, Diablo and the TLOU. Not sure I want to double dip on Diablo (of course though there is new content), I can't shake the feeling I could just pick up TLOU down the road when it will be discounted or possibly show up on PS+, so I'm leaning this way. Looks like a great game and is really two, so seems like a good choice. Is there any re-playability to them (I think I would start off on Ranger mode and Survival)?
Yes, digitally