Bloodporne
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Hard for me to muster up any excitement when I couldn't stand any of their lame ass Castlevania entries. The Metroid fan in me says "FUCKING GO BUY A 3DS" but then logic kicked in.
Metroid: Samus Returns (Mercury Steam, Metroid 2 reimagining, 9/15) announced for 3DS
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CharminUltra
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The Metroid theme still gives me the chills 30 years later.
He did no such thing. Please don't say bullshit.
OnlyWonderBoy
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The latest version is still easily accessible online. I downloaded it for the first time after the C&D
Yes, clearly making games for your new system is a waste of resources. LOL.
They're talented and Nintendo is steering the ship this time.
mariachi507
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Nintendo: "The nintendo switch isn't going to replace the 3ds"
"yeah right! hahahahaha!"
*Pokemon ultra sun and ultra moon revealed*
didn't watch the reveal conference but I imagine it started off with gameplay before showing off the 3ds box art?
They ARE replacing the 3ds, but they're phasing it out like they did the original ds (Pokemon Black and White 2 came out after the 3ds launch). There wasn't a single 3ds screenshot in the Spotlight today and next gen Pokemon was announced for the Switch. It makes more sense to finish out this gen of Pokemon on the 3ds and start fresh on the Switch next year with a new gen. Nintendo basically have at least one game hitting the Switch every month for the rest of the year because it's their main focus.
I'm mean, C'mon. You didn't even watch the conference.
Hm fall 2018 ? Thats not even a two year dev cycle, sounds a bit short.
Yeah but its not any game, its metroid. Its a game every (most) early adopters of nintendo look forward to, thats why Im disappointed.Well it is like it is sadly.
I dont get these it looks bad comments, the game looks great for the 3ds and gameplay looks great too.
Geno Breaker
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Talk about historical revisionism lmao
At no point did he ever attempt to do that. LIke toxi said, please don't spread bullshit.
Again, watch the gameplay. It looks good.
Father_Brain
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I literally just finished replaying it on PC the other day and I stand by what I said, sorry. It's a good game, it just tried to be too many things to too many people.
Did you watch the gameplay? I don't think so.......
Immaculate
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theres 30 minutes of footage available for you to judge yourself
Bloodporne
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I did and I don't think it does.
I watched the gameplay
it looks alright. it looks like Metroid 2, I didnt necessarely want a remake of Metroid 2 nor to Mercury Steam to be attached to it and have some other M gameplay elements
i'll buy it and play it. I just think we deserved / could have gotten better
Matt Attack
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The trailer looks really good. Don't even care that it's not on Switch, I have high hopes for this.
Remember when Next Level Games and Retro Studios were no name developers who did nothing of note before Nintendo started working with them?
Hell even Rare was similar to this. Before working with Nintendo their most prolific title was Battletoads and it was purely for it's batshit difficulty and being a Ninja Turtles knockoff.
Hell even Rare was similar to this. Before working with Nintendo their most prolific title was Battletoads and it was purely for it's batshit difficulty and being a Ninja Turtles knockoff.
QuixoticNeutral
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People are really underestimating how much Nintendo supervision can do to turn an external or western developer around.
If this game turns out as well as it looked in the Treehouse demo, the best-case scenario is for Nintendo to add another long-term collaborative partner to their roster for further games beyond this one. They'll need that in the long run to have any hope of keeping up with the IPs everybody wants. I'm cautiously optimistic, though I haven't played the MercurySteam Castlevania games and don't know what people specifically disliked about them and are worried about again here.
Did Metroid 2 have uppercuts? Complex boss fights beyond just pumping missiles out? The Grapple Beam? Free aiming beyond left, right, down, and up?
Etrian Oddity
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I mean, people dropped money on a shiny new system and expect to get some mileage by playing cool new shit on it, not play cool new games on a 6 year old system. I don't think you can blame them.
The point of "why not put it on Switch?" I see is that Nintendo's big projects are spread apart without any 3rd party stuff or small projects to really stretch the dead space between them. Mario Odyssey dropping as early as it is definitely helps, but Nintendo's summer is... Arms.
Then Metroid and Pokemon. Both of which will not touch store shelves until 2019 because they literally just started developing them and Nintendo doesn't release a game until it's polished.
That means Nintendo fans are gonna have to wait two years for a Metroid and Pokemon experience on Switch, and rather than whet their appetite by porting relatively non-touchscreen heavy games to Switch, they keep them on an already saturated system that needs to transition.
Magicpaint
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Probably more effort than is worth it given the niche status of the series. Nintendo likely approved this project as part of an initiative to keep the 3DS market going. This likely wouldn't have existed otherwise. Nintendo's rationale is simple: there are 66m 3DSes out there, the last fiscal year showed a YoY growth and an active userbase, and so they don't mind green-lighting smallish projects likely these to keep the system going for a while while also focusing their premier efforts on the Switch.
And honestly the rest is subjective. If the 3DS is as awful as you say then it should have been dead and buried ages ago. It turns out that lo-fi gaming (have you seen the rage about Nintendo discontinuing the NES mini?) with compelling software is what has kept Nintendo as the market leader in the dedicated handheld space forever and that hasn't changed with the 3DS. Many people don't mind as long as software they actually want to play is there, 240p or 1080p. I'm of the same mindset.
Yep, the trailer looked ugly but then I had to remind myself that 3DS games always look like ass there. It looks great and I'm willing to give the devs a shot as this is a new franchise, and a new take. It also looked fun at the presentation.
sure man. how can you not get my point regardless. Metroid 2 modernized is cool, wanted completely new 2D Metroid by a different team considering how long it's been
i'll take it; they'll have my money, so im just stating an opinion not hatin
Yeah, arguing against a Switch port is bizarre to me, and it's even more bizarre that there isn't a Switch version available in the first place. I'm all for keeping old games alive though ports, remasters, remakes, etc. but for systems, this isn't how things are supposed to work, guys. Out with the old and in with the new. That's how it's supposed to be. If you don't take stance, games will never get better than they are now, and innovation will be stifled due to technological limitations, not to mention that it's gets harder and harder for old platforms to maintain interest and sell well with age.
Beyond that, new platforms need support to be a success. Part of that involves stopping support for old systems (like Nintendo has already done with Wii U) to focus all efforts and resources on the new platform so as to make it a success. It's time to move on and embrace the future if we want to see Nintendo succeed in the long term, I think. The Switch is the future for Nintendo, not the 3DS.
Relaxed Muscle
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The hate it got was because it was a bad game that didn't lived to yhe expectations of the series on Nintendo handheld systems. It was a lousy, janky action game with bad level design.
Is not ike MC scores were great and it was only igavania fans thing.
Pretty much this. No-one will be hurt with an additional Switch port, it only adds more value to the newest device.
Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Didn't take it out of context at all.
WTF? Bullshit, people didn't liked it because it's just a bad game, period. Shitty combat with lots of sponge bullshit design, shitty level design, shitty boss fights... the only good thing on it was the 3D effect.
pizzapizza64
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Is this confirmed to work on the original 3DS and 2DS?
Prime 4 is Holidays 2018 as the earliest. So they could release a Prime Trilogy remaster or something else to "promote the new Metroid Prime", or anything that makes more sense than remake of the second game on September 2017.
Heck, who knows if they'll release a remaster of this in 2018.
Super Metroid doesn't need a remake, and if they did one that looked like this it would probably look like garbage in comparison the original. I think pretty much all of the 16-bit entries have better visuals. Metroid II hasn't aged as well and it needs an update to be as enjoyable as the later entries. Metroid got one with Zero Mission, so II has for a long while been the odd one out. Repetitive, monochromatic areas, no map, and stiff controls really hold it back compared to all the other entries.
dragonzdogma
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Is this only for 3DS and is this a remake?
Why does the OP title say steam, metroid 2 ?
I would love a switch version or Wii u version
Why does the OP title say steam, metroid 2 ?
I would love a switch version or Wii u version
Immaculate
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Crimsonclaw111
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This actually looks like the action in Other M but not shitty. I'm in.
Father_Brain
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It has vastly better level design than any of the Igavanias I've played.
I largely agree on the combat mechanics, though I still kinda enjoyed them, but this game has none of that stuff.
I think people should stop arguing over MoF as if it's a sign of what to expect here. It was a very divisive game. IGN gave it like a 4.7 while GameInformer gave it an 8.5 and GameSpot gave it a 7.
And I don't think they have the catalog to judge one way or the other yet. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially as they'll be guided by Nintendo a bit.
And I don't think they have the catalog to judge one way or the other yet. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt, especially as they'll be guided by Nintendo a bit.
Is this only for 3DS and is this a remake?
Why does the OP title say steam, metroid 2 ?
I would love a switch version or Wii u version
Mercury Steam is the developer. It's a remake of Metroid 2.
People hated on MoF because it looked like one of those PSP games made by a Western studio that's literally nothing more than a filler product. This is more or less what David Cox confirmed in interviews during development: the only reason MoF existed was because LoS2 was taking too long to finish and they needed a game out or else they'd have to fire staff.
That lack of quality and care totally screams throughout the entire product, and it makes perfect sense when you understand why MoF was even made. It's a bad game that broke a habit of solid handheld Castlevania titles, but it was particularly bad because it didn't have a sense of identity. It has a worthless fuckin' map to appeal to the IGA fans, but has godawful QTE God of War combat on a handheld. It's a sidescroller that forces you to use the analog nub.
There is good reason it is one of the worst selling games on Nintendo handhelds, if not the worst selling altogether. I'm sure the demo they put out created more detractors than fans.
Haven't read the thread so I don't know what the consensus is, but I thought it looked fantastic. Obviously being the 3DS the graphics are going to lag, but the introduction of free aiming, melee attacks and more complicated enemy attack patterns all look like great improvements.
Great to see real, proper Metroid returning. Metroid II was also my first Metroid game so it's extra special to me.
Great to see real, proper Metroid returning. Metroid II was also my first Metroid game so it's extra special to me.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Nintendo is producing (Sakamoto) and doing the music (Yamamoto, Hamano)
DeaconKnowledge
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Best part of this trailer is that it's almost exclusively Samus whipping ass. No talking or her being ordered to bake cookies by her master.