MGS: Ground Zeroes trailer in "ENGLISH" UP!
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evil solrac v3.0
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so they can say they changed it at the womb or something to make sure that he was as close to Big Boss as possible. come one, it's MGS! they can get away with stuff like this.
AgentOtaku
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Hayter's been the same since MGS2. His MGS1 performance was his best, but his MGS4 output was on par with the rest.
That's not the part I meant being serious about.
Performance quality has nothing to do with any of it though. If it did, this entire series would be completely different.
Someone else said it in another thread, but Kojima is simply a starfucker. He wanted a big-name, Hollywood actor in his lead role solely for the sake of having a big-name, Hollywood actor.
If he had recasted the part and given it Kiefer over Hayter for mocap reasons, that would at least make sense. But Kiefer didn't even do any of that, just the facial capture, so there's really no excuse other than him wanting a Hollywood actor in the role.
CaptainSlow
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This. Geeze I cant believe people look at transition from MGS3 to MGS
W for Hayter's Big Boss and think we need more of THAT voice for this game. Seriously. Hayter's raspy, gargled voice was horrible and I'm glad they're moving on and this is coming from someone who LOVED Hayter's work in MGS and MGS2.Romars202129
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Got that vibe too
I still believe this is an elaborate troll
please say it is
No way.
But, we can hope that Sutherland, in true hollywood fashion, throws a giant premadonna hissy fit and quits before they finish. Sound like they've been having trouble with him already, and his performance here shows his level of dedication to the project=none.
Otherwise.... the ps3 isn't region locked, you know?
Got that vibe too
I still believe this is an elaborate troll
please say it is
Hayter was on an episode of Ryan Payton's Republique podcast (his Kickstarter game) and he said we could believe whatever we want but he insisted that he's not in the game, it's either true or he's lying.
I think he also said that he's not going to play the game either.
I know. It's the fact I am going technical. I love that xD Doesn't change the fact that Kiefer's voice is awesome and that David Hayter sucked in PW. I don't want Old Snake's voice in MGSV, thank you.
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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keptyouwaiting HHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHH
Romars202129
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This. Geeze I cant believe people look at transition from MGS3 to MGS
I like that people aren't even trying to defend Kiefer's acting. Instead, saying the other guy would be no better.
karasu
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Because his acting is awesome. You guys are too butthurt to see anything beyond your own pain.
I'm pretty sure Hayter was intentionally making himself sound like that to fit the role of an aged Snake. He wouldn't sound like that in MGSV. He was pretty damn good as Big Boss in MGS3.
It really, really isn't. I could practically hear him turning the script pages as he lifelessly read his lines.
His performance in that trailer was so wooden I had to call in an exterminator to get rid of some termites afterwards.
BurnOutBrighter
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That's pretty much what Sutherland sounds like when he's not shouting though.
karasu
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It's probably just hard to accept a natural performance when you're used to hearing that forced tripe that we've always got before. "Kept you waiting. huh" has always sounded stupid.
EmCeeGramr
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People usually sound like they're alive and not robots in natural performances.
ArchedThunder
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The voice acting is painful...
Kojima already explained why he chose Kiefer.
1) David's Snake voice as it is does NOT sound human at all when Kojima is taking a more realistic approach in that matter. The game is obviously darker and far more serious.
2) Kojima wants Snake to express emotions through facial expressions rather than relying on the tone of his voice or the words he says. Thanks to the motion/facial capture and the fact the english cast will be doing the mo-cap for this game, Kojima's fantasy would become a reality because Kiefer has years of acting skills and anyone who watched Season 8 from 24 would understand that his voice and facial capture would perfectly fit Big Boss' character and personality. The theme of season 8 is "Revenge" and Jack Bauer (Kiefer) shows it through his emotions. And I am so excited because I know how it is going to look like when Big Boss will be expressing those same emotions. (ex: Crying, shouting, torturing etc...)
3) David Hayter does NOT have acting skills and he would be just terrible at doing the facial capture. Not to mention his voice went downhill after MGS4. He sounded like Old Snake in PW when he shouldn't have. Thank you David, but I don't want Old Snake in MGSV.
4) I love David Hayter and I am sure he will return as Solid Snake and I believe that if Solid Snake was to be featured in MGSV, Hayter would definitely be back to take on this specific role. Big Boss is more human than Solid Snake will ever be. Kiefer sounds more human than David's Snake voice.
5) Kojima always took a risk with every iteration in the series and he always managed to deliver a masterpiece after the other and I really don't see how that is any different. Trust Kojima and wait for the final product before judging. I am positive that he will surpass every game he ever created with MGSV. Be patient guys and stop arguing when we haven't even played the game. Be optimistic. Semper Fi.
In Kojima We Trust.
BurnOutBrighter
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Okay I'm reading backwards through this thread and the meltdowns just keep getting better and better.
Sutherland might sound bored, but at least he doesn't sound like a parody of himself.
Sutherland might sound bored, but at least he doesn't sound like a parody of himself.
MikeBreezy92
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Other than the "keepyouwaitinghuh" flop everything else sounded fine to me.
Razgriz-Specter
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Shit most of the old cast is still there.
the Snake thing is just going to tick me off more now.
the Snake thing is just going to tick me off more now.
its just so weird to me. as well, not much we can do about it.
karasu
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I don't have anything to be in denial of. I didn't like Hayters' acting and he's been replaced with an actor I enjoy in a role very similar to what he's used to playing. I win.
It's one thing to have an entire cast change, but hearing Miller's hella awesome voice alongside this... stranger's is bizarre. Frankly bizarre.
What was up with Miller in PW anyway? He just kinda turns up. Guess I should go listen to those codec files.
ArchedThunder
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Miller is the only one with decent voice acting in this, Skull Face sounded terrible and Kiefer was phoning it in. 
nckillthegrimace
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I'd rather something be hammy and fun instead of completely fucking boring.
Also, major props to Robin Atkin Downes for being the only person in the trailer who gave even half a shit. It probably helps that he's a professional voice actor and actually knows what he's doing.
CaptainSlow
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It sounds human. It just sounds like a human with a sock shoved down his throat.
EmCeeGramr
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That's what struck me during the conversation.
RAD sounded like he was actually a character trying to converse with Big Boss. Sutherland sounded like Kiefer Sutherland reading his lines from the script.
Dude read again. I clearly said he sucked in PEACE WALKER. MGSV is a sequel to PEACE WALKER. If David SUCKED in PEACE WALKER, he would SUCK in MGSV. Get it now?
Razgriz-Specter
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and going by this trailer Huey's(Otacon's) is the same,
this is going to be awfully weird(bad) when they interact.
be sure to complete PW 100%.
Yeah, I've been futzing around on Extra Ops while... uh... whoever Steve Blum voices hilariously continually escapes.
Gotta say the controls are fucking terrible, oh well
dr3upmushroom
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Looks awesome, I had to boo the voice change though
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The voice of skull face bothers me a lot more than Big Boss'. Big Boss and Kaz are fine.
The lack of logic in this statement strikes me as equal parts humorous and sad.
He had one lackluster performance and several awesome ones. The probability is he would have another awesome performance.
And Hayter's poor voice acting is still miles ahead of the Robot Sutherland I heard in the MGSV trailer.
David Hayter's voice is not human bro. Doesn't fit Big Boss anymore.
bigboss370
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I was one of the people who actually didn't mind Keifer Sutherland voicing Snake...
but dear god it's terrible
but dear god it's terrible
Oh my God.
You're looking at a current-gen version (hence current-gen hair) running on a PS4. The only difference is the higher quality (1080p) and the fps which will be ~60fps. I would take a 1080p60fps MGS over one that suffers because of upgraded graphics. This is an open world we're talking about here.
Rogue Agent
Banned
Loved the voice acting overall in the trailer.
The only thing is that Kiefer's voice before Skull Face gets into the helicopter feels so sad and soulless - I don't know if that's intentional. Even Kaz feels so sombre during this time.
After the helicopter and as they near the mission, the voices subtly ramp up and I like that. I also love the disconnect between Skull Face's look and the voice - it's a contradiction and I strangely like that.
I dunno. Maybe I have low standards lol since the majority of the Internet seems to hate the VA in general in this trailer.
The only thing is that Kiefer's voice before Skull Face gets into the helicopter feels so sad and soulless - I don't know if that's intentional. Even Kaz feels so sombre during this time.
After the helicopter and as they near the mission, the voices subtly ramp up and I like that. I also love the disconnect between Skull Face's look and the voice - it's a contradiction and I strangely like that.
I dunno. Maybe I have low standards lol since the majority of the Internet seems to hate the VA in general in this trailer.