MGS: Ground Zeroes trailer in "ENGLISH" UP!

Love Deterrence said:
Something that I think should be noted:

Snake's facial expression when giving the "Kept you waiting, huh?" line has changed drastically from PAX 2012. I should point out as well that the facial expression for Skull Face stayed the same... So, that's why I have a feeling that we're in for a bit of a surprise when Ground Zeroes starts.
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Really pulling at threads here guys. All that means is they've implemented Kiefer's facial acting.

NeoGAF is really freaking on this one. Everyone needs to chill out and stop flaming each other. I'm somewhat disappointed with the voices, but they are not horrible by any means. I think they shouldn't have let go of David Hayter the way they did, but people need to stop hyperbolising on both sides. IMO people should chill about gameplay as well, honestly we don't know jack and should stop assuming the addition of open world, enemy tracking (already similiar to Soliton Radar, just longer range), slow-mo recovery time etc. will be good or bad. People should understand Kojima is going way out of his comfort zone with this one, and he might not end up with a perfect game that simultaneously captures the exact classic gameplay of MGS1/2 and transforms it into an open world adventure to rival other games in the genre. He might not even end up with a "great" game. But if Kojima wants to make the game he is making, I say go ahead.

He probably doesn't want to create "classic" MGS anymore and is experimenting with ideas he's never considered or may not have considered had he not tried to already end the franchise with MGS4. Fact: none of us here have played a MGS game in full open world gameplay, it might just be too hard to handle without "scouting" gameplay. Only Kojima and his team know how to tune their game, as they are the only ones to have played it thus far. I find it strange how so many people complain about this, that, or the the other thing, while many of the same people also complain about "Konami forcing Kojima to keep making Metal Gear". Just leave the man to his creative freedom, whether that be to drastically change his longstanding franchise, or make a new one. He's clearly not just making a game for Konami to cash in on hardcore fans, because he's not afraid to ignore them and their outcries to "stay the same".


TL;DR, people need to chill out, the defendants are too lenient, the haters are too harsh. In the end Kojima is seemingly making the game he wants to, not being obligated to pump out a forced end to a franchise he himself never intended to. With this game, it seems like he has passion for what he is doing and that's why I'm excited. It could end up being a failed attempt at AAA open world gameplay, but Kojima is going into untold territory here, let's give him the benefit of a doubt to leave behind tradition.
 
alr1ght said:
Just think about how much money Kojima paid Kiefer to do this...couldn't wait to get his hands on a "Hollywood celebrity."
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He should've gone after Kurt Russell, he's a better fit and would've probably been cheaper.

Sorral said:
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Didn't work with MGS4...
 
I think most people dislike Kiefer as Snake because for decades Hayter was the voice actor, to the point if someone sees Hayter they dont see "the David Hayter", they see Snake, the same way with Kiefer, i know i will have a hard time with MGSV because while i'm playing with Snake, in my mind i will think i'm playing with Jack Bauer.

If a Metal Gear movie would ever be made, some people woudn't like the actor portraing Snake just because he doesn't have "Snake's voice."

Sorry about my poor english btw. :p
 
Valkyri von Thanatos said:
Really pulling at threads here guys. All that means is they've implemented Kiefer's facial acting.

NeoGAF is really freaking on this one. Everyone needs to chill out and stop flaming each other. I'm somewhat disappointed with the voices, but they are not horrible by any means. I think they shouldn't have let go of David Hayter the way they did, but people need to stop hyperbolising on both sides. IMO people should chill about gameplay as well, honestly we don't know jack and should stop assuming the addition of open world, enemy tracking (already similiar to Soliton Radar, just longer range), slow-mo recovery time etc. will be good or bad. People should understand Kojima is going way out of his comfort zone with this one, and he might not end up with a perfect game that simultaneously captures the exact classic gameplay of MGS1/2 and transforms it into an open world adventure to rival other games in the genre. He might not even end up with a "great" game. But if Kojima wants to make the game he is making, I say go ahead.

He probably doesn't want to create "classic" MGS anymore and is experimenting with ideas he's never considered or may not have considered had he not tried to already end the franchise with MGS4. Fact: none of us here have played a MGS game in full open world gameplay, it might just be too hard to handle without "scouting" gameplay. Only Kojima and his team know how to tune their game, as they are the only ones to have played it thus far. I find it strange how so many people complain about this, that, or the the other thing, while many of the same people also complain about "Konami forcing Kojima to keep making Metal Gear". Just leave the man to his creative freedom, whether that be to drastically change his longstanding franchise, or make a new one. He's clearly not just making a game for Konami to cash in on hardcore fans, because he's not afraid to ignore them and their outcries to "stay the same".


TL;DR, people need to chill out, the defendants are too lenient, the haters are too harsh. In the end Kojima is seemingly making the game he wants to, not being obligated to pump out a forced end to a franchise he himself never intended .With this game, it seems like he has passion for what he is doing and that's why I'm excited. It could end up being a failed attempt at AAA open world gameplay, but Kojima is going into untold territory here, let's give him the benefit of a doubt to leave behind tradition.
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Yeah, I hear ya. I'm not complaining. I just found it interesting that Skull Face's facial capture/voice over was already in, yet Kiefer's wasn't? Like I've stated several times, I thought the voices were fine. Does it really matter, though? People are acting like voices make-or-break the game. Putting together footage from GDC, E3 and now this, I think the voice acting sounds just fine -- too soon to judge either way, though.
 
Gotta love Mr. Burns' logic:

Doesn't wear his hat the entire time it's raining. Gets close to the chopper that's whirling its rotors, ready for takeoff...

*puts on hat*
 
RyanardoDaVinci said:
Gotta love Mr. Burns' logic:

Doesn't wear his hat the entire time it's raining. Gets close to the chopper that's whirling its rotors, ready for takeoff...

*puts on hat*
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SInce Mr. Burns is, well, burned, he probably don't have a sense of touch. He probably wasn't feeling the rain all that time at all. The hat is therefore not for the rain.

Kojima can't write.
 
BTW, anyone have any idea where we could find 1080p or maybe even 60fps versions of these videos? That's really what I was looking forward to with these videos being hyped for release.
 
Oh god this is one of those moments I'm so thankful to understand Japanese. WTF happened, I thought they were hiring real actors now? The guy doing burned face sounds like a typical dubber
 
Bullet time and wall hacks? No thank you. Those features better be optional or active exclusively on lower difficulties.
 
That Skullface voice is really bad. It's not Liam O'brien whoever posted that. His voice makes the scene look like a badly dubbed anime/movie.
 
I wish I was 14 again so I could enjoy MGS for what it was.

After MGS4 soured me, and since the years have passed. I'm afraid I've outgrown this crap.

Also, the gameplay looks phoned in and casual market oriented, and the quality (*cough*) of the voice acting has been covered well enough in this thread. Oh well, back to GTA.
 
I like Kiefer's voice a little better than Hayter..Idk it's just more natural, and this is coming from a long time mgs fan. Skullface's voice on the other hand...wtf.
 
Wishmaster92 said:
I like Kiefer's voice a little better than Hayter..Idk it's just more natural, and this is coming from a long time mgs fan. Skullface's voice on the other hand...wtf.
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You know what's funny is I heard a fan dub for the Ground Zeroes trailer released last year, and Skull Face's voice sounded pretty much exactly like what we heard tonight!

Link: http://youtu.be/xt3kO9oExwo

(I actually didn't think the fan dub was half-bad. Kind of enjoyed it, myself. But I don't think real actors should sound so similar! XD)
 
Man western developers are truly kicking the best of Japan. being a big MG fan, it breaks my heart to say it.
I just see MGS4 here...stiff unnatural animations, weird shooting animation.
Bad AI? when snake attacks that guard near the tent, in the day light demo. They are blind? WTF.
It does not look next gen, but I guess thats because its a cross gen title??

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Melee combat looks good!

Losing my interest in this game more and more :(
 
I actually passed on FF13 because I did not want to hear the game in English.....and there is no goddamned way I am going to endure Sutherland as Snake. He is not Snake goddamnit......such a fine actor too but its not really his fault.....I have played through every canon MG/S.....and this is going to be shitty difficult....but they kept Otsuka-san??? Sigh............

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Darth Zandatsu said:
I think most people dislike Kiefer as Snake because for decades Hayter was the voice actor, to the point if someone sees Hayter they dont see "the David Hayter", they see Snake, the same way with Kiefer, i know i will have a hard time with MGSV because while i'm playing with Snake, in my mind i will think i'm playing with Jack Bauer.

If a Metal Gear movie would ever be made, some people woudn't like the actor portraing Snake just because he doesn't have "Snake's voice."

Sorry about my poor english btw. :p
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Yeah that can be it. A big problem for me is that Keifer isn't changing his voice or intonations at all for the role. he sound EXACTLY like Jack Bauer from 24, I wasn't expecting that to take me out of it, but it did. His delivery also isn't the best, he's trying to be naturalistic but stumbling over any remotely awkward dialogue instead of modulating his tone to make it flow better.

The gameplay looks great though.
 
the dissonance caused by keifer's voice is huge...I can't relate to this at all :( I have to admit this the only thing I really don't like about the game.
 
Valkyri von Thanatos said:
Really pulling at threads here guys. All that means is they've implemented Kiefer's facial acting.

NeoGAF is really freaking on this one. Everyone needs to chill out and stop flaming each other. I'm somewhat disappointed with the voices, but they are not horrible by any means. I think they shouldn't have let go of David Hayter the way they did, but people need to stop hyperbolising on both sides. IMO people should chill about gameplay as well, honestly we don't know jack and should stop assuming the addition of open world, enemy tracking (already similiar to Soliton Radar, just longer range), slow-mo recovery time etc. will be good or bad. People should understand Kojima is going way out of his comfort zone with this one, and he might not end up with a perfect game that simultaneously captures the exact classic gameplay of MGS1/2 and transforms it into an open world adventure to rival other games in the genre. He might not even end up with a "great" game. But if Kojima wants to make the game he is making, I say go ahead.

He probably doesn't want to create "classic" MGS anymore and is experimenting with ideas he's never considered or may not have considered had he not tried to already end the franchise with MGS4. Fact: none of us here have played a MGS game in full open world gameplay, it might just be too hard to handle without "scouting" gameplay. Only Kojima and his team know how to tune their game, as they are the only ones to have played it thus far. I find it strange how so many people complain about this, that, or the the other thing, while many of the same people also complain about "Konami forcing Kojima to keep making Metal Gear". Just leave the man to his creative freedom, whether that be to drastically change his longstanding franchise, or make a new one. He's clearly not just making a game for Konami to cash in on hardcore fans, because he's not afraid to ignore them and their outcries to "stay the same".


TL;DR, people need to chill out, the defendants are too lenient, the haters are too harsh. In the end Kojima is seemingly making the game he wants to, not being obligated to pump out a forced end to a franchise he himself never intended to. With this game, it seems like he has passion for what he is doing and that's why I'm excited. It could end up being a failed attempt at AAA open world gameplay, but Kojima is going into untold territory here, let's give him the benefit of a doubt to leave behind tradition.
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Been saying the same thing man. People here are prejudiced to say the least while others are complete ignorants who know nothing about the games. Sometimes I even wonder if it's even worth it to spend time explaining and correcting them.
 
B_Boss said:
there is no goddamned way I am going to endure Sutherland as Snake. He is not Snake goddamnit
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They did it to Sam Fisher... they were willing to do it to 47 as well until fans kicked up a stink... I have no fucking idea what the obsession is with changing voice actors after so many years and titles. It really baffles me. I can't take Sam Fisher seriously at all now, it's a completely different person with the same name.

I don't expect this will be very different. Gotta Hollywood all the things.
 
Interinactive said:
They did it to Sam Fisher... they were willing to do it to 47 as well until fans kicked up a stink... I have no fucking idea what the obsession is with changing voice actors after so many years and titles. It really baffles me. I can't take Sam Fisher seriously at all now, it's a completely different person with the same name.

I don't expect this will be very different. Gotta Hollywood all the things.
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Please don't compare Sam Fisher to Snake. Thank you.
 
Interinactive said:
They did it to Sam Fisher... they were willing to do it to 47 as well until fans kicked up a stink... I have no fucking idea what the obsession is with changing voice actors after so many years and titles. It really baffles me. I can't take Sam Fisher seriously at all now, it's a completely different person with the same name.

I don't expect this will be very different. Gotta Hollywood all the things.
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No kidding man.......and you know I'm going through the trailer as I type pretty much and Sutherland just has a "softness" to Boss' voice that is not fitting to me....I mean when you look at Boss/Snake and hear Sutherland, the 2 do not match but make no mistake: this is NOT a critique of Sutherland's masterful acting ability this is more of a jab at Kojima-san for effecting such an odd change....this is so frustrating to me....at one point in the trailer I quickly though "who the hell is recording over Snake???"......

All this time I've been waiting to be trolled by Kojima-san and having Hayter do some ridiculous reveal....I even imagined all the trolling up until the 1st English version where......all of a sudden Hayter's voice pops in with "Kept you waiting..."....and no............we've been trolled alright, jokes clearly on us again. My head hurts...
 
Interinactive said:
I didn't?
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You did. Just by mentioning Sam Fisher's voice actor losing his role you're assuming that it will have the same effect as David Hayter losing the role. David Hayter and Snake are on a different league my friend. No one gave a fuck about Sam Fisher and his voice. The character has no personality and is lifeless with or without the voice.
 
Oh my god...to add insult to injury....Norihiko Hibino? Gone. I cannot....cannot believe that.....guess I have to deal.....we all do.
 
Batzi said:
You did. Just by mentioning Sam Fisher's voice actor losing his role you're assuming that it will have the same effect as David Hayter losing the role. David Hayter and Snake are on a different league my friend. No one gave a fuck about Sam Fisher and his voice. The character has no personality and is lifeless with or without the voice.
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Sorry, I didn't realise you weren't worth talking to
 
B_Boss said:
Oh my god...to add insult to injury....Norihiko Hibino? Gone. I cannot....cannot believe that.....guess I have to deal.....we all do.
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He's been working a lot with KojiPro since he departed from Konami mostly doing additional BGM for MGS4 and Peace Walker with compilations and stuff. I'd say there are good chances he will be involved in the OST of the game.
 
Batzi said:
You did. Just by mentioning Sam Fisher's voice actor losing his role you're assuming that it will have the same effect as David Hayter losing the role. David Hayter and Snake are on a different league my friend. No one gave a fuck about Sam Fisher and his voice. The character has no personality and is lifeless with or without the voice.
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*Sigh* This is what I'm talking about, flaming for no good reason (flaming never has good reasons I suppose, comes with the territory). Why say such things? Just because he may have offended you? Jeez man, you said you and I were saying the same thing, but did you not understand? I was advocating moderation and clear headedness, but such unnecessary attacks suggest you thought I was completely defending Kojima. Let me lay it out, I'm reserving judgement. There's no reason to so vehemently defend the awful way he treated David Hayter, the only thing the Big Boss VA change has over Sam Fisher's is that Big Boss logically never should have had Solid Snake's voice in the first place. I just can't agree with your statement at all that Sam Fisher had no personality before, did you even play those games?
 
I have zero opinion of the switch of voice actors for snake. In fact I always disliked Hayter's voice work in the games, but I do recognize it as being iconinc with western players.

After watching the video I'm a bit dissapointed in the VO overall. With Kojima's cinematic ambitions, which is even clearer so far with the released MGS V footage, I expect better out of the VO, even if there are multiple languages to consider.
 
Toxa said:
hibino was awesome
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Hibino is just as Legendary for the music of Metal Gear as Mizutani, Muraoka & Gregson-Williams, period.......oh well. Nothing against the new Composer and looking forward to what he will bring but dammit.......
 
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