BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It's the worst of the modern MH games. I liked Rise way more.
MH Wilds lost more than 98% of its userbase
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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Maybe not, but correlation between these numbers and how the game is currently perceived by the community across all social medias is certainly there.
Buggy Loop
Member
Did people move on from World this fast? Or how about Elden Ring? Just because something is single player doesn't mean people will move on without new content. This shows the game doesn't offer much in terms of depth. Otherwise more people would still be playing.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
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That's like saying you beat L4D2 solo, and move on. This is a "party" game. You play it and replay it in coop for as long as possible, it's where the endgame fun is at. Turns out that there's zero endgame, and coop becomes extremely boring because monsters die in 3minutes while dealing no damage. Braindead balance for mobile tourists.
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SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Capcom need to watch this video. Their current direction is what i'd expect from ubisoft, not Capcom.
Pasta la Vista
Member
I still haven't picked it up, I want to though, but waiting for the expansion cause, I played a ton of World but never played Icebourne and I was already burnt out the game by the time that expansion released. So trying to avoid that this time and just jump in when the game is feature complete.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Except it's not even primarily a single player game. The draw of this game is the multiplayer.
Schmendrick
Member
It´s the most boring most casualized MH ever with basically broken tech and nothing even remotely resembling an endgame.
I quit after 15 hours.... and there hasn`t been a MH since the first PSP release I haven`t poured at least 100 hours into the vanilla version......
I quit after 15 hours.... and there hasn`t been a MH since the first PSP release I haven`t poured at least 100 hours into the vanilla version......
Reizo Ryuu
Member
There was no alternative to World, that's all PC players had; Wilds players now have iceborne, filled to the brim with content, endless MP challenges like raids, tons of event quests and the mother of all hunts in fatalis, and on top of that they also have rise+sunbreak if they don't care that much about MP.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Game sucks, I tried but jfc id rather blow my head off
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
They did. ER is averaging 50k and had 1mil peak
GateofD
Member
what was the story?
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
I have 300hours of MH World + Iceborne, and I haven't done everything.
I maxed out this game in 55 hours and 20 of those were grinding for gear.
I maxed out this game in 55 hours and 20 of those were grinding for gear.
darrylgorn
Member
Looks and runs like shit.
What did they expect?
What did they expect?
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
There was over 1 million lol that's more than just the dust settling
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Might be a hot take for some, but i strongly believe that even if it ran like it does, and looked as shitty as the current Wilds, but had depth, complexity and challenge, three and and a half months in, you'd see over 200k+ players on steam (especially on the weekends). Nobody leaves a game because it runs like shit. You will bitch about it's performance, but you ain't leaving a quality game. Wilds has nothing. Why stay?
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Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
The controls are complete shit, like I found half of what I hated was how the game seems ass backwards with controls. The run/weapon sheath bs omg
Astray
Member
That's why I said "GAAS-like", there are these games that aren't explicitly GAAS, but they tend to stay online and add paid and unpaid content periodically to keep players coming back.
Think of games like this and Palworld, they're not exactly like a Fortnite or whatever, but they're also not exactly one and done games.
Shubh_C63
Member
By that logic PUBG lost 2.5million players since launch,
Black Myth Wukong lost 2.2million
Palworld lost 1.7M
Baldurs Gate 3 lost 800K
3 months is more than enough time for a single player game to be rendered boring. Maybe we should say Peak was exceptionally strong.
Hollywood Hitman
Gold Member
Pubg been around since ice ages, so of course it's lost alot. 3 months to me for a game like MH to lose 98% is a sign the game just sucks, just gotta accept it
Kacho
Member
Monster Hunter is not a one and done single player game. Worlds was averaging 100-200k players for months after it hit PC.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Why do you keep calling it a single-player game when the multiplayer is the major draw? That's like calling Halo 3 a single-player game.
World 3.5 months after launch was still averaging over 100K+ at its peak daily and it started off from a 325K peak. Wilds is down to 30K from a peak of 1.38M. The dropoff isn't even remotely comparable, especially considering it's 2025 and the PC userbase is much larger now than then.
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Valt7786
Member
Problem is how lacking the endgame feels. There's no where near enough endgame armours to grind for. It's all well and good releasing 8 more slightly harder variants, but why bother doing them more than a couple of times when there's no new weapons or sets to grind for. There's only been 1 new monster since release and its just a retextured one from the previous game.
Black_Stride
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
That might be the exception. They've delivered with RE games the past several years. Only RE3 Remake was a slight disappointment but they recovered with RE4 Remake.
TBH didn't know it was that low on the PS charts.
Welp, not my problem if it is
It'd be unfortuante to some degree if the game is underperforming in player retention. But on the optimistic side, it could motivate Capcom to clean up shortcomings so the next installment avoids pitfalls.
I'll also be stunned if the next MH isn't a Day 1 on Switch 2 release.
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Jinzo Prime
Member
I think of Monster Hunter as more multiplayer focused than single player. The drop off with this game does seem a bit steep.
SILKYSMOOTH30FPS
Member
Currently sitting at sub 14k ON A WEEKEND. Holy shit.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Really strange how Capcom bungled this AND Dragon's Dogma 2. World was so successful it should've given them carte blanche to take as much time as possible and blow even that game out of the water.
Always puzzling why so many devs fumble on momentum like this.
Always puzzling why so many devs fumble on momentum like this.
No. Not everything needs to be disclosed for the sake of it.
Mister Wolf
Member
Horrible performance. Was an easy skip.
Same situation here
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
tmlDan
Member
Never once experienced this with 100 hours of PS5 gameplay, thats more likely the PC version when people couldn't read specsSo parity with PS5 version?
Shubh_C63
Member
I don't think Multiplayer is the main force behind the games popularity unlike Helldivers. Even World can be completed and enjoyed solo.
Black Myth Wukong only lost 50% of its players base in 3 Months
Palworld lost 90% of its players base in 3 months
Lostark lost 70% in 3 months ( and I think it was considered a failure so maybe), most apt comparison to MH-Wilds I think.
Hogwarts Legacy lost 95% in 3 months
Helldivers 2 lost 75% in 3 months
Monster Hunter Rise lost 75% in 3 months
MH Worlds seems a big and better budgeted project than Wilds. Game is not great, but the drop isn't a colossal disaster. I doubt it was made by the A-team that made Worlds.
Huge drop of 98% and still 20K active players is still impressive after 3 months.
I have failed to googled it but I am 100% sure Capcom immediately advertised they are working on the new AAA Monster Hunter game, named Prime or something with a purple font. Am I dreaming stuff ?
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Now I see what some of y'all meant by "haters". I mean sure, the game isn't the best and has flaws, but it's still a good game imo that will be way better with the expansion. Despite not being anywhere as good as Rise or World, it's still a MH game at its core.
I actually like the focus mode and think it's a great addition, but the clutch claw can go get fucked. Bring back wire bugs. The seikret birds traverse well, but they don't help in the fight like the palimutes did.
So for the next main entry, keep the focus mode, bring back wire bugs, make the rides more use in the fights, and bring back non-generic followers and make them selectable and removable individually. And most of all, ditch Alma and the Scooby Doo gang that follows the hunter around just because.
I actually like the focus mode and think it's a great addition, but the clutch claw can go get fucked. Bring back wire bugs. The seikret birds traverse well, but they don't help in the fight like the palimutes did.
So for the next main entry, keep the focus mode, bring back wire bugs, make the rides more use in the fights, and bring back non-generic followers and make them selectable and removable individually. And most of all, ditch Alma and the Scooby Doo gang that follows the hunter around just because.
Poppinfresh
Member
Honestly, I started skipping cutscenes about halfway through but from what I remember:
Expedition to supposedly uninhabited Wilds spots a child running from a monster. They save him and take him back to the main continent. Then they launch another expedition to save his village.
Of courese, the kid can't remember where his village is or what path he took to escape.
By the way, the supposedly "uninhabited" Wilds turns out to be inhabited by a ton of people.
Eventually, the story devolves into the kid wanting to save the monster instead of hunting it or some BS like that. That's about the time I quit playing the game.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Well, people used to say that about NPD numbers. Now we barely get anything and whatever we do get is at best relative around percentages.
Unless you pay them $10K of course. Then you can get the numbers like the olden days
Personally I don't see a downside to more platform holders providing that type of data transparently to the community. Especially when they want to push for MAU metrics and what-have-you. It'd also help the community make more informed decisions on what games to invest their money towards, or figure the best times to log in to guarantee certain volumes of matches for GAAS titles.
Kacho
Member
These games have always been soloable save for a few end game encounters. That's how I've always played them. But the long-term appeal is the end game and multiplayer aspect.
Wilds is not retaining players because it's too easy and there isn't a robust end game.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Well yes who would have known that going the way of Phantasy Star Online and completely gutting what made Monster Hunter....Monster Hunter and making the game so streamlined that the only thing remotely challenging is Gore Magala in a Hallway. Builds don't matter since you can get sub 10 minute runs in Low Rank Gear.
And pffft the story is Metroid Other M quality. MUH AUTHORIZATION. Get the hell out of here with that noise.
But it gets worse with new updates if performance wasn't DD2 bad at launch you actually have to look for your shader files and delete them to force the game to recompile shaders after any kind of driver update since it won't do that itself. And you get instructions by Capcom to apply a fix by yourself...instead of them.
And of course I just have to mention the DD2 fans will be forever upset since it got sacrificed at the altar so MH Wilds could walk. And Capcom hasn't learned anything.
Somehow this is another MH Rise situation but somehow worse?
Rant over. MH4G just keeps winning.
Yoshichan
RE9 is probably fine. I'd be shocked if they put out another RE3R release.Well it has THE worst endgame, literally becomes Arkveld simulator. Dripfeed HR Zoh Shia, and cutting Lagiacrus and Seregios from launch lineup didn't help either.
Wilds does many things amazingly well, but the almost nonexistent endgame, relatively shallow content and piss easy monsters make it forgettable real quick.
That said I have high expectations of G-Rank expansion.
Wilds does many things amazingly well, but the almost nonexistent endgame, relatively shallow content and piss easy monsters make it forgettable real quick.
That said I have high expectations of G-Rank expansion.
SomeNorseGuy
Member
World was a great entry point to the franchise and saw massive success as new players discovered how fun the MH gameplay loop actually was. And core fans could forgive them for dailing down the complexity in the name of getting a AAA experience.
I thought it was a shame that they doubled down on the streamlining instead of bringing the new players into the fold of more complex and rewarding hunts & mechanics.
Let's hope they can course-correct a bit with some banger DLCs down the line.
Story was fucking shite aswell.
I thought it was a shame that they doubled down on the streamlining instead of bringing the new players into the fold of more complex and rewarding hunts & mechanics.
Let's hope they can course-correct a bit with some banger DLCs down the line.
Story was fucking shite aswell.
I collect VHS tapes
Gold Member
When people criticize the story, which is easily one of the worst stories ever, people defend the game by saying it isn't about the story or single player experience
But when we need to explain why no one is playing it, it's a single player game
Maybe the fact that tons of people in the OT said that they had to skip through the cut scenes because the game was so fucking bad is why people aren't playing it?
Edit: also, when the story is that bad, it makes the micro transactions and fact that it's poorly optimized all the more glaring
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lughnasadh123
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MHW was my first one. Rise was the second. I've seen enough from both to really not want to bother with anymore if that's going to be the repeating formula.
