http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/feldman-michael-jackson_n_4191548.html?section=australia
Anyway... doesn't seem like any new evidence or information has surfaced. Just hay been made out of the old stuff.
Michael Jackson apparently had a child pornography collection
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/feldman-michael-jackson_n_4191548.html?section=australia
Anyway... doesn't seem like any new evidence or information has surfaced. Just hay been made out of the old stuff.
Last Prime
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This isn't just a Michael Jackson thing. The entire entertainment industry is fucked up. I'm just wondering when they are going to go after the big and powerful in the entertainment industry.
Coffee Dog
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Yikes. Well, I guess we finally got some closure to this.
freenudemacusers
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All of the dakimakura I collect are canonically 18 and older, unlike the young boys Michael Jackson slept with in his master bedroom (surrounded by images of naked kids and erotic books, being taught the virtues of self-pleasure,, photographed nude) that he totally did not molest. I mean you'd have to be crazy to assume such a thing!
don't doo dis.
KuwabaraTheMan
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This is the least shocking news ever.
Coreda
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Reading the PDF linked in the Vanity Fair article of documents investigators described and presented there is a single S&M book which had 'body mutilation' (which I'm guessing is where the 'gore' came from), among the various nude books and general porn he collection. So far in none of the reviewed content was considered illegal by the investigators but was being presented as circumstantial evidence since the case was about molestation and they felt it was both relevant and noted a past case where such evidence was presented.
Every page ends with the line to the effect '...material which is sometimes used to groom kids...'. Essentially by detailing the list the pornography they wanted to make the case he used the material to entice kids and make them vulnerable to sexual assault.
As for the pages from the internet the obvious insertion is Page 55. Which is literally a bad photocopy of a website dated this year, placed to show a DVD description I believe.
Edit: not sure where the 'child torture' bit is meant to be.
Clockwork
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Denial or saying this is the same stuff that has been rehashed time and time again?
breakfuss
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LOLLOLLLL 18+ ayyy?
People who always believed he molested children since 1993 will have the same stance, People who believed he was innocence will still believe he is innocence, because there are no new evidence.
old manatee
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It was so surreal when he died and everyone acted like he wasn't a monster.
psynergylover
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seriously.....damn MJ.....
freenudemacusers
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any moment now my loyal fans will come defend me against these egregious charges. Just you wait.
Tatsumi Oga
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That and people just eating it up like it's already proven.
Laughable really. But i am done trying to let people see how the guy was set up. Someone saying "in other news water is wet.." and all that stuff....they'll never change their mind anyway.
ilu Mac
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It's almost like the storyline to the Thriller video. Art imitating life etc.
ViewtifulJC
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Thats what they told him at least
Thank you for that. Sounds like the OP was general hyperbole mixed with a tad of truth.
BossDarkseid
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After the Boston Archidose child abuse stuff in 2002 many priests refused to name names saying that a man had a right to a reputation even in death etc. That's a crock of bullshit. It's not about dragging someone's name through the mud but about exposing the truth and not abandoning the victims, or giving a false impression.
I guess its trickier if victims don't want to deal with it anymore but its not exactly a binary decision in that regard because...well, it's not as if "Oh, MJ had a child porn collection but he had some incredible music so let it lie"
Tatsumi Oga
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The huge difference here is that there is no such thing as new evidence, there never was any evidence to begin with.
Why are folks taking this stuff as if its a fact? I serioously want to know. It's not like the sources are incredibly reliable, lol.
Oh man, so much misinformation here.
womfalcs3
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I think I know why Macaulay Culkin turned out the way he did.
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
are u for real?
yea I wish I could edit the title and just put a "in 2003" in there somewhere. That would at least tell people this is news, but old news. I doubt theyd actually READ the op where the update from vanityfair is lol.
TBF, it was kinda my fault for phrasing the title that way.
this is like pure unfiltered neogaf
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captmcblack
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That's pretty much what I'm getting here, if there's nothing new.
That stuff's always been divisive, but if there's no new shit, nothing's changing.
He was a crazy dude that made great music, was probably eccentric, might've been a sick pedo, might've been slandered a ton, and the truth is somewhere in between. Business as usual.
I hope new definitive evidence is released someday to end the debate so we can confirm his terribleness...or something comes out to discredit any slander forever.
Really? He was never found guilty and that's enough for a lot of people. Celebrity status especially as large as Michaels is more than enough to cast doubt on any perceived wrongdoings.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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If it proves to be true, MJ is a deplorable human being.
I honestly feel sorry for child MJ who suffered a shitload of physical and emotional abuse only to evolve into the content mentioned in the expose.
I honestly feel sorry for child MJ who suffered a shitload of physical and emotional abuse only to evolve into the content mentioned in the expose.
With evidence, I mean evidence used by the prosecutors. The magazines and books found in Neverland. The article made it sound like there were a ton of new evidence, but all they showed was that old police report.
the victims aren't dead and if any of this is true we should burn his legacy to the ground. fuck him.
Sorcerer
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Apparently there are some damaging documents that the court had sealed away for some reason. I don't understand why.
Slayer-33
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Dat legacy payment
bootsthecat
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I don't buy it, just like I didn't 20 years ago. I think he was seriously stunted emotionally, and truly was of the mindset he was a kid. Like, he had sleepovers with 10 year olds, because he was one in his head as well. He settled because it was best to get the news out of the papers asap, and a drawn out trial has the opposite effect.
Fucked up dude that wanted to be forever a kid (or related mental illness/disability)? Yep.
Child rapist? Sorry, nope.
Fucked up dude that wanted to be forever a kid (or related mental illness/disability)? Yep.
Child rapist? Sorry, nope.
This is fucking intense.
I wonder why this stuff was brought to light now, though? You'd have thought it'd have come out when he was alive and actually defending himself in court. I can't say I'm surprised if this turns out to be true. He was a troubled person, that's for sure.
I guess I've always been of the mentality that you don't really know anyone, and putting them up on some kind of pedestal isn't a good idea. He was a fantastic creator, musician, and performer, but he was a sick man. The entertainment industry itself is a fucking cesspool, so I'm not at all shocked by this turn of events. Money and excess turns some people into horrible, horrible monsters.
I wonder why this stuff was brought to light now, though? You'd have thought it'd have come out when he was alive and actually defending himself in court. I can't say I'm surprised if this turns out to be true. He was a troubled person, that's for sure.
I guess I've always been of the mentality that you don't really know anyone, and putting them up on some kind of pedestal isn't a good idea. He was a fantastic creator, musician, and performer, but he was a sick man. The entertainment industry itself is a fucking cesspool, so I'm not at all shocked by this turn of events. Money and excess turns some people into horrible, horrible monsters.
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That's some fucked up shit.
Jesus!
Jesus!
The amount of ignorance in here on this subject is astounding.
On June 13th, 2005 Michael Jackson was acquitted on all counts against him. Why was none of this supposed evidence brought up against him? All of this stuff they could've hauled into court in 2005, and yet Michael was acquitted. Not too sure about all that. If they literally had that stuff, there would be no contest. Lol They could've just said, "here's all the shit in his house, so there's no reasonable doubt." It's stupid. The reason why they didn't use it is because they knew, like with the rest of the evidence they presented, no jury would ever buy it.
Why are people comparing this to Cosby? There's evidence against Cosby. Cosby is almost likely going to go down. There was never any solid proof that anyone who accused Michael of anything was telling the truth. God, I can't wait for the day when Gavin Arvizo or Jordy Chandler decide it's time to a full exposé on how they were manipulated into lying about the whole thing. Chandler's father who, by the way, committed suicide shortly after Michael's death in 2009.
On June 13th, 2005 Michael Jackson was acquitted on all counts against him. Why was none of this supposed evidence brought up against him? All of this stuff they could've hauled into court in 2005, and yet Michael was acquitted. Not too sure about all that. If they literally had that stuff, there would be no contest. Lol They could've just said, "here's all the shit in his house, so there's no reasonable doubt." It's stupid. The reason why they didn't use it is because they knew, like with the rest of the evidence they presented, no jury would ever buy it.
Why are people comparing this to Cosby? There's evidence against Cosby. Cosby is almost likely going to go down. There was never any solid proof that anyone who accused Michael of anything was telling the truth. God, I can't wait for the day when Gavin Arvizo or Jordy Chandler decide it's time to a full exposé on how they were manipulated into lying about the whole thing. Chandler's father who, by the way, committed suicide shortly after Michael's death in 2009.
This happens every year in the tabloids near the anniversaries of his acquittal and his death, both of which happened in June of 2005 and 2009 respectively. It's disgusting.
Wolfe
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He's a human being just like the rest of us, one with an arguably awful childhood due to his father.
Just because someone is "good" at something doesn't mean they can't have problems.
Edit: I'm not agreeing or disagreeing on the bit about him being "twisted", I just find comments like the above a bit silly.
Let's not act like people weren't always willing to believe the worst when it comes to MJ too. MJ was "different" way back since his Thriller days. The media painted him as crazy way before any allegations of pedophilia ever came up.
People were set up to believe some crazy shit about him for years. And i say this acknowledging that MJ's behavior and plastic surgery played a big part in that.
I read the entire report.
Thread title is very misleading. He had a lot (and I mean A LOT) of questionable material but none of it was considered child pornography (except for one item where the age of the person could not be determined but was most likely a young adult).
I think it's also safe to say that MJ was bisexual. He definitely wasn't heterosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that, nor do I care.
They also included a link between pain medication and sexual addition. Never heard that one before.
Also, were they reaching with the 3T photographs? That was weird.
Yeah.
Thread title is very misleading. He had a lot (and I mean A LOT) of questionable material but none of it was considered child pornography (except for one item where the age of the person could not be determined but was most likely a young adult).
I think it's also safe to say that MJ was bisexual. He definitely wasn't heterosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that, nor do I care.
They also included a link between pain medication and sexual addition. Never heard that one before.
Also, were they reaching with the 3T photographs? That was weird.
Yeah.
As long as these people stay big and powerful, it won't happen. Individuals of such obscene means can almost always find ways to avoid punishment
Drugs, for one.
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