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[Goodstyle]

Crushed. I'm utterly and completely crushed.

 

[diamount]

This makes no sense. During the trial it was proven that MJ would drink wine from coca cola cans so that children would not see him consume alcohol if they were present.

And yeah.. if you are willing to believe the entire family was imprisoned in NeverLand then I really don't know what to say.

Appropriate avatar.

 

[73V3N]

Lol seriously. We had a thread about his creepy collection of nude kid magazines and the naked photo of the kid he slept in bed with but everyone just made weird excuses about it.

 

[AJLma]

It sounds like it's the same evidence that lost in court but now it's been released so the court of public opinion can waste their time and drive up advertising dollars.

Accuracy.

 

[User1608]

Fuck.


This always bothered me, the lingering doubts so I stopped listening to his music in 2014.

I'm so grossed out.

 

[dakun]

Did MJ call it so or the alleged victims? Was it proven that alcohol was indeed given to them? Seriously wanna know, I haven't really followed it back then.

nothing was proven, that's why he walked away from the case a free man.

 

[King_Moc]

for ya'll asking "I WANNA SEE THE RECEIPTS!"

do you really tho

I mean think about what you sayin

For some people, Michael Jackson had the requisite level of talent as a musician for them to feel he can get away with this stuff.

 

[OverBlood 3]

I hate this type of reporting.

Rush to be the first, be wrong, then just say 'oops' and it's never heard of again.

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

Wut.

I'm pretty sure MJ was guilty, but this just doesn't make sense. People settle out of court for shit they don't do all the time. In a hypothetical world where I'm as rich as MJ and also not guilty of the accusations it makes a lot of sense to just throw money at the problem to make it disappear, particularly since an extended trial could bring bad PR that would theater future income from his music.

Bad pr? Paying off a kid accusing you of molestation is the worst pr lol. I think if you're as rich as MJ and not guilty it makes more since to fight it and clear your name.... if you can.

 

[Real Hero]

this guy has been filed under 'peado' in my mind since before he died, I think people who are really shocked by this were being willfully ignorant

 

[Kinyou]

The report, which was previously unseen, says at least seven collections of images depicted boys in their teenage years – and some younger – naked or partially clothed in the musician’s bedroom.

Why wouldn't this send him to jail? I don't think you can "settle" out of this.

 

[gogogow]

for ya'll asking "I WANNA SEE THE RECEIPTS!"

do you really tho

I mean think about what you sayin

The police report with the pictures from those books/magazines are linked above as pdf. They are rather tame and typical arty fartsy photographs.

 

[Beerman462]

Child torture huh.....sicko. What about his kids?

 

[Volimar]

Considering how much Corey Feldman has gone in on child predators in the industry, has he said anything about MJ who he seemed pretty close to?

for ya'll asking "I WANNA SEE THE RECEIPTS!"

do you really tho

I mean think about what you sayin

I just want it answered once and for all. It's obvious to me that he had some psychological problems. Was pedophilia one of them? Probably. Incontrovertible proof to settle it once and for all would be nice.

 

[Clockwork]

I'm still confused as to why some are shocked?

We already knew he was in possession of such material as which while distasteful imo were deemed completely legal.

Now that a new story is coming out putting a spin on said materials/reframing that same evidence you all are somehow surprised and disgusted?

Hopefully none of you inquire about the findings in the Pee Wee Herman raid. The same kinds of materials were found in his home as well. Still legal.


Don't take this as a defense of MJ...perhaps he was a pedophile and kiddy diddler. Maybe he had some child pornography he liked to jerk off to. But this certainly isn't evidence of that and it certainly hasn't been proven.

Let's revisit stupidity like this when we have something solid.

 

[Mostmanlyman]

Someone cant like anime with out being called a pedos?
Well thats what it sounds like your saying.

 

[Syder]

Always amazes me how so many people believe tabloid garbage without taking even a moment to think about it.

If people looked into any allegations against Jackson even a little bit they'd realise how bullshit it all was.

the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department

LOL, of course.

 

[Slayer-33]

Petafiles

 

[User1608]

If this absolutely, undisputably turn out true, I will feel really fucking awful for supporting some sick person's stuff in the past.

 

[OmegaX0]

For some people, Michael Jackson had the requisite level of talent as a musician for them to feel he can get away with this stuff.

Or you know, people want some actual proof for all the crazy allegations being thrown around.

 

[MMaRsu]

Not surprised at all in fact I thought we already knew this I remember seeing something about photography books that were border line child porn. Slightly unrelated but it really depresses me when black celebrity's who's work I enjoy imply that mj and more recently Cosby were just victims of white conspiracys to slander them.

Wow this seriously happens?

Ontopic: Terrible news, I've always suspected it though. Scrolling through these documents it does seem real.

 

[Ray Wonder]

Someone cant like anime with out being called a pedos?
Well thats what it sounds like your saying.

I think it sounds like he's saying people make up weird excuses for liking anime? Could be what you said too. There is a lot of popular questionable anime too.

 

[73V3N]

Someone cant like anime with out being called a pedos?
Well thats what it sounds like your saying.

If that's what you understood then uuuh you're funny.

I like anime btw

 

[Mad Season]

Wasnt the this widely known?

 

[OverBlood 3]

I will say as tame as the photos are you can't look at them as a separate entity as the officer states, there's a lot of support in addition to these arty nudes to suggest he used them for grooming kids.

 

[dakun]

i find it quite idiotic that people who believe he's a pedophile think people don't believe it because "he made Thriller".
Fuck that. I read through all the transcripts of the second court case. The family and especially the mother was a borderline nutcase.
I believe MJ is innocent in those cases because none of the allegation brought against him make any fucking sense.

but believe whatever you want him. Just don't assume such idiotic stuff about people who believe he's innocent.

 

[MMaRsu]

Gtfo with that nonsense man. I don't even like that anime style but to imply that people who have a loli avatar are pedo's? Wtf.

And if that's not what you are implying then what are you implying?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

I was surprised again by some of this stuff I haven't heard of but this

Radar has the full sheriff's report, including images taken as evidence. Here: http://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mj-docs.pdf

From what I was able to scroll through, they're mostly rather tame "art" shots and excerpts from legally sold books. That would explain why he was never charged for having illegal child pornography, because he technically did not have any. The prosecutor used the books and pictures as proof of a grooming scheme for his alleged victims, but it never panned out.

Yeah thats what I took from it.

These seem like art books. Weird art books, yeah, but still.

 

[Goodstyle]

This isn't just about the child porn stuff, MJ apparently was a twisted sadistic predator that showed children psychologically damaging images of abuse and torture on both people and animals. This is fucked up on every level. Questionable artbooks is one thing, but that?

Did people know about that part before? Because this is news to me.

 

[Danis Saur]

Well, there it is. I really did believe he didn't do anything, but this just seals the deal. My image of him is now officially ruined.

 

[Vice]

Why wouldn't this send him to jail? I don't think you can "settle" out of this.

"Yeah, he has thousands of images of CP but, Thriller was the soundtrack to my junior year. Give the many another chance."

 

[Kinyou]

I'm still confused as to why some are shocked?

We already knew he was in possession of such material as which while distasteful imo were deemed completely legal.

Now that a new story is coming out putting a spin on said materials/reframing that same evidence you all are somehow surprised and disgusted?

Hopefully none of you inquire about the findings in the Pee Wee Herman raid. The same kinds of materials were found in his home as well. Still legal.

Isn't this a little different than the Pee Wee Herman stuff? I mean it sounds like he photographed the kids himself in his own bedroom

The report, which was previously unseen, says at least seven collections of images depicted boys in their teenage years – and some younger – naked or partially clothed in the musician’s bedroom.

 

[OverBlood 3]

This isn't just about the child porn stuff, MJ apparently was a twisted sadistic predator that showed children psychologically damaging images of abuse and torture on both people and animals. This is fucked up on every level. Questionable artbooks is one thing, but that?

Did people know about that part before? Because this is news to me.

This was their case back in the day. I believe it was widely known and this is the same information from then.

If people are genuinely interested in the truth of it check the report yourselves, there's highlighted relevant info.

 

[Real Hero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Gy-nhmO-M

 

[Alienous]

I'm just waiting on a conclusive verdict.

I do get the sense in interviews that he has an easier time relating to children than to adults, but his bare-faced lies regarding plastic surgery and lack of a believable sex life (at least one that is publicly perceivable) makes it hard to believe that the allegations put against from weren't at least partially based in truth, and that's enough to condemn him.

 

[Clockwork]

Isn't this a little different than the Pee Wee Herman stuff? I mean it sounds like he photographed the kids himself in his own bedroom

They found collections in the bedroom, not that the pics were taken there.

 

[Sapiens]

Isn't this a little different then the Pee Wee Herman stuff? I mean it sounds like he photographed the kids himself in his own bedroom

Michael probably had his connections at Sega Photoshop grown stacked women to look like boys. That's probably what happened. Mj was straight AF.

 

[breakfuss]

He gave us Billie Jean you said he touched those kids?

Excellent.

I'm laughing too damn hard at this. Like legit laughing out loud. Fuck man. Always shook my head at this btw. Like what the hell are you talking about?!

 

[TaterTots]

Not surprised. This is the same man that was saying its perfectly ok to sleep in a bed with children you aren't related to at the age of 40+.

 

[MogCakes]

Ah so none of this is actually proven evidence? His songs will remain in my playlist.

 

[Indigo_Plateau]

So will it be frowned upon to listen to MJs music now?

 

[captmcblack]

Is this new stuff, or the same stuff that's been thrown out since the 90s and got re-thrown out after Martin Bashir and co in 2003?

Is this actual stuff, or the same art books and jesus juice allegations from before? I need to know if these are new legit findings. I see it's Radar Online, but I don't want to assume it's Enquirer-style trash. I read the OP and see that Radar article, but I just want to make sure.

The old allegations were always divisive (and believers believed/non-believers condemned), so it wasn't changing minds on either side - but it lost in court a bunch of times already.

 

[dakun]

Is this new stuff, or the same stuff that's been thrown out since the 90s and got re-thrown out after Martin Bashir and co in 2003?

Is this actual stuff, or the same art books and jesus juice allegations from before? I need to know if these are new legit findings. I see it's Radar Online, but I don't want to assume it's Enquirer-style trash. I read the OP and see that Radar article, but I just want to make sure.

The old allegations were always divisive (and believers believed/non-believers condemned), so it wasn't changing minds on either side - but it lost in court a bunch of times already.

same old shit.

 

[Zakalwe]

Retracted for now.

 

[Mostmanlyman]

If that's what you understood then uuuh you're funny.

I like anime btw

Well i didnt know, because people have said that a lot in the past and it is fucking stupid.

 

[gogogow]

This isn't just about the child porn stuff, MJ apparently was a twisted sadistic predator that showed children psychologically damaging images of abuse and torture on both people and animals. This is fucked up on every level. Questionable artbooks is one thing, but that?

Did people know about that part before? Because this is news to me.

No, people didn't know about that part, because it has only been outed by a "investigator" that told Radar Online, lol.

My neighbours friend's uncle works at Nintendo and saw the NX, it's just as powerful as Scorpio.

I'm surprised so many people here suddenly believes a tabloid article by Radar Online. I thought rumour threads that weren't verified were frowned upon here. I'm not saying MJ was innocent or not, but c'mon anyone could've written that article.

 

[Sorcerer]

The guy SLEPT WITH RANDOM CHILDREN IN HIS BED.

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

I'm really surprised that so many people are surprised.

A book I read alleged that he would have children watch movies such as The Exorcist so they would get frightened and jump in bed with him.

 

[Filthy Casual]

Wow.

 

[JadedWriter]

this guy has been filed under 'peado' in my mind since before he died, I think people who are really shocked by this were being willfully ignorant

I honestly think some people just retroactively aborted MJ's bullshit from their minds when he died. The man was honestly a living mess that I can't bring myself to respect, I don't care how good his music was.

 

[Rembrandt]

Gtfo with that nonsense man. I don't even like that anime style but to imply that people who have a loli avatar are pedo's? Wtf.

And if that's not what you are implying then what are you implying?

i'm assuming the same thing everybody implies when they reference people's loli avatars.