You must be crazy if you think that a company is lying on a press release where they say they bought a 100% shares of another company, or that they lie on a SEC filing. I don't have to provide you anything and obviously less a confidential document, it's another nonsensical thing to ask me this.
You're simply desperate because don't have anyhing to back your claims, so his is why you insult and ask for nonsensical things.
Bullshit, stop lying and insulting me.
It's common sense that CEO can fire his employees, and that employees won't go rogue against the interests, strategy and orders of the company that owns them, to do something that would hurt it and doing it against the will of their boss and owner. First they wouldn't be allowed to do it and second if they do something big against the orders of their boss they would be fired. And the CEO and top staff doesn't need the approval of their employees to define or change their strategy. This is geos in this way for Sony, MS and any other compnay in the world.
A separate topic is to lie to their investors and regulators. MS, Sony or any other company can't do it. If they say that will do something, and just after the acquisition they do the opposite, they can get in serious trouble with investors and regulators. What it would be ok would be to say something to the investors and regulators and to do what they promised. And then after several years, let's say 10 years or something like that, after releasing 2 or 3 games of this acquired company, they can say their investors that changed their mind and reviewed their stategy. That would be ok. For Sony, for MS and for any company.
I never said the opposite.
The press release I posted said Sony bought 100% of Bungie, so totally controls them. This is a fact and don't need any legal purchase agreement to know it.
No, it's a fact that Sony owns the 100% of Bungie. Absolutely nothing suggest this is wrong.
You're lying again.
I mentioned a gazillion times that they agreed that Bungie will now be under SIE but to continue publishing using their own Bungie publishing label as multiplatform including in rival consoles for their current and future games instead of being included inside the PS Studios where the are focused on PS exclusive games (and later port some of them to PC). And as happens with their other teams, Sony will have creative freedom to do the games they want. I also explained why Jim Ryan is fine with it since it fits with their SIE and Sony plans and strategy they -and even himself specifically- explained before the acquiisition (SIE wanting to grow to reach new fans outside outside PS hardware, bringing their games to other platforms and to cinema or tv). I think that if they have some kind of exclusive would be limited to console bundles, beta/demos or to the inclusion in game subs because they didn't say anything about these topics and I assume Sony will want to get something.
And I obviously tthink Sony won't make exclusive stuff for Nintendo or Microsoft, it doesn't make sense at all. I don't see why SIE, who are now the only owners of Bungie, would want to do that. I get they keep Bungie as a multiplatform publisher to don't leave money on the table, to don't piss off their fans and to differentiate with a different publishing brand the games thtey will publish on other consoles, to make easier to understand that PS Studios will remain console exclusive.
I think it will work well and that they will continue doing it, I don't expect this to change. But I think that if somewhere in the future (not soon, I'm talking maybe 10 or so in the future) Jim Ryan/SIE change their mind -let's say in an unrealistic case where the next 2 or 3 Bungie games are crap and tank hard in sales- and decide it' better to change it, they'll do it. They own Bungie so can fire and replace people or to change their strategy.
I didn't say they can't leave the company. They are employees, not slaves. What I said is that in many cases key (not all) staff of the acquired sttudio sign as part of the acquisition that will stay there for at least X amount of years after the acquisition and if they personally decide to leave before, they have to pay a penalty to the company. In other cases it's also signed that during X years you can't be hired by direct competition and if you do so they can ask you to pay a penalty. In other cases (which are compatible wtth the previous two), they pay you a bonus if you stay for X years after the acquisition on top of the typical seniority bonus that any employee has for having worked during X years in the company. In some other cases, also compatible with the other ones, for the employees who also owned stocks of the owned studio, part of the payment of these stocks is paid after staying for X years in the acquired company and if they leave before they aren't paid.
These are called retention bonuses and they said in the public documents I mentioned -specifically in a Sony IR report to their invesors, so again aren't lying here even if you don't like it- that $1.2B of the $3.6B will be paid in following years because they are linked to retention bonuses. So we know that, as usual in this type of acquisitions, Bungie employees signed some of these things or something similar. We also know that at least some Bungie employees were stock holders (and now SIE is the only stock holder since they bough 100% of the stocks).
There is nothing wrong in any press release, public IR document or interview that goes against what I'm saying or that proves me wrong in anything I said.
And yes, one of the main reasons of why they bought them is due to their knowledge, expertise, data and tools in GaaS (and I'd add MP and FPS) and to share it with their PS Studios. So in addition to he obvious reasons of why when a company buys another wants to retain at least most of the key staff duing at least during a few years (to continue doing great stuff), in this case Sony specifically wants the GaaS related key staff to remain there to share this knowledge/data/tools with their PS Studios.
MS and Activision said things like this in the
SEC filling, a legally binding document for regulators and investors:
Later
Phil specifically said that they desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation, the
MS president said on CNBC that will not only continue on PS, but that they will also release it on Switch. MS also said on
their blog this:
So yes, I expect them to keep being multiplatform with "CoD and other popular Activision Blizzard titles" not limited to pre-acquisition agreements, as they did with Minecraft because it's what they said.
For the Bungie acquisition but both Sony and Bungie also said clearly that their current and future games won't PS exclusive but that instead will continue being multiplatform including rival consoles. Bungie said they will also bring Destiny 2 to Switch. We don't have any legally binding document like the SEC filling stating that, but I believe them and I think they will go full multiplatform unless they change their mind somewhere in the future, something I think won't happen because something Sony/Ryan said they want is to reach players who are outside PS. Which makes sense with AAA costs rising every generation, so companies have to find new revenue sources.
I expect Sony and MS to don't be lying to their investors, and to do what they said at least during many years, specially MS because of what they said in the SEC. After that, they may change their mind. And their Bungie/Zenimax/Activision Blizzard will do what their bosses and owners will tell them to do, even if they have their own publishing label and creative freedom to do the games they want.
Bullshit. I frequently provide quotes and link sources again and again to back my claims and did it about this topic several times, also in many other threads.You didn't prove me wrong or baseless in a single claim I made. If there is here a toxic fanboy, one in bad faith insulting and lying without providing a single source to back claims isn't me. It's you.
If there is a baseless claim here, it's yours asking to provide the (confidential so obviously not public) acquisition contract for some unknown reason. It's official that Sony bought 100% of the shares of Bungie and I provided the related Sony Inverstors Relations press release document stating it, so it's a fact they have full control over Bungie. We don't need the acquisition contract to know that.
And well, I won't provide you any single link and don't want to waste more time with you. Use google or read my previous post in this or other threads if you want to know something else.
MasterCornholio
was claiming Sony wanted to keep Bungie multiplatform due to their live service games. But we know Sony is working on at least one other live service game and I think we can all confidently say that that game (or those games) will NOT be available on Xbox. He said it didn't make sense for Sony to eliminate revenue from a live service game by not releasing it on Xbox. If that's the case then Sony's next live service games should surely be on Xbox. Right? RIGHT??? Nah.
