Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)

Do you believe the deal will be approved?

  • Yes, will be approved without changes.

    Votes: 221 24.9%

  • Yes, will be approved but with structural changes to ABK.

    Votes: 102 11.5%

  • Yes, will be approved but only with behavioral concessions.

    Votes: 262 29.6%

  • No, will not be approved.

    Votes: 301 34.0%
  • Total voters
    886
  • Poll closed .
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LordCBH said:
Put down the crack pipe, son.
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We should keep this thread going after the deal is done either way. Just a constant nostalgia trip. Every week someone necroes the thread, "Remember when SenjutsuSage..."
 
He also cropped section d for some reason....

(d) No Prohibitive Laws or Injunctions. No temporary restraining order, preliminary or permanent injunction or other judgment or order issued by any court of competent jurisdiction or other legal or regulatory restraint or prohibition preventing the consummation of the Merger will be in effect, nor will any action have been taken by any Governmental Authority of competent jurisdiction, and no statute, rule, regulation or order will have been enacted, entered, enforced or deemed applicable to the Merger, that in each case (i) prohibits, makes illegal, or enjoins (or seeks to prohibit, make illegal or enjoin) the consummation of the Merger or (ii) imposes or seeks to impose a Burdensome Condition.
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No idea why though lol

But sure I'm no lawyer maybe ms can just ignore all 4 sections of 7.1 of their written contract. Heck why not just ignore it all and not give Activision their termination fee either.

Section 8 also discusses the termination there's several sub sections about approval. But yeah just there for funsies, they can be ignored on a whim to suit...
 
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BeardGawd said:
Depends if the other regulators view the CMA as rational or not. MS is already planning to bypass the FTC and that's not hurting their reputation.

He literally underlines the portion of the contract that shows exactly what he says. Florian has been right more than most analysts.
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Nah, he is wrong as usual. Microsoft cannot waive the rulings of regulatory bodies. That's the reason "where permitted by applicable law" is in there.

Good luck waiving off all this...

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That nitwit isn't even showing a capture of the actual merger agreement. The verbiage is similar, but definitely not the same document at all. His doesn't reference Microsoft or Activision Blizzard at all.

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He is an idiot.
 
Topher said:
Nah, he is wrong as usual. Microsoft cannot waive the rulings of regulatory bodies. That's the reason "where permitted by applicable law" is in there.

Good luck waiving off all this...

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That nitwit isn't even showing a capture of the actual merger agreement. The verbiage is similar, but definitely not the same document at all. His doesn't reference Microsoft or Activision Blizzard at all.

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He is an idiot.
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Wait a second. A lot in this thread claim that the CMA was required because of the merger agreement and MS would need a whole new contract, with shareholder approval, to go this route. Florian just showed that there is an 'out' in the contract for just such situations. No new agreement or shareholder approval needed. Florian says "applicable law" refers to Delaware where the agreement was signed. Now are there other business considerations such as possible fines and political capital? Of course but that has nothing to do with them being able to waive that piece of the agreement. It was only put in to benefit MS anyway.
 
BeardGawd said:
Wait a second. A lot in this thread claim that the CMA was required because of the merger agreement and MS would need a whole new contract, with shareholder approval, to go this route. Florian just showed that there is an 'out' in the contract for just such situations. No new agreement or shareholder approval needed. Florian says "applicable law" refers to Delaware where the agreement was signed.
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That should be your first clue that he is making this shit up. The state of Delaware doesn't dictate applicable law in the UK or anywhere else. Applicable law means where the law will be applied. If the law is being applied at the state level, then yes, Delaware. In this case, the law is being applied in many jurisdictions and they are all applicable.

What would even be the point of having a section in this agreement called "Conditions to the Closing of the Merger" if the parties involved can just say "fuck it, waiving all these conditions"? The entire notion here is absurd.

And again.......we are talking about a guy citing the wrong document.
 
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Varteras said:
We should keep this thread going after the deal is done either way. Just a constant nostalgia trip. Every week someone necroes the thread, "Remember when SenjutsuSage..."
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As if you need to ask. Checking this thread is up there with my morning coffee and dump.
 
Topher said:
That should be your first clue that he is making this shit up. The state of Delaware doesn't dictate applicable law in the UK or anywhere else. Applicable law means where the law will be applied. If the law is being applied at the state level, then yes, Delaware. In this case, the law is being applied in many jurisdictions and they are all applicable.

What would even be the point of having a section in this agreement called "Conditions to the Closing of the Merger" if the parties involved can just say "fuck it, waiving all these conditions"? The entire notion here is absurd.

And again.......we are talking about a guy citing the wrong document.
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If true then I would guess they can be waived because they are there to protect the buyer. Why would activision shareholders care if the merger was blocked in a region as long as they get their money?
 
poppabk said:
If true then I would guess they can be waived because they are there to protect the buyer. Why would activision shareholders care if the merger was blocked in a region as long as they get their money?
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It is referring to any legal requirements that can be waived in whatever jurisdictions. Activision shareholders care because Microsoft is not going to complete the transaction and give them any money if they cannot get the deal approved by regulators. That is why the "Conditions to the Closing of the Merger" exists.
 
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Wulfer said:
If they fail with this merger, their will be even more people upset. MS will make you wish they got the ok for ABK! I'd say you can kiss Capcom goodbye.
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They already said they weren't done with acquisitions including ABK so nobody should be surprised when the next one(s) is(are) announced.
 
drganon said:
It's been a while since someone posted a revenge jerk off fantasy.
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Not revenge really, it's just business. Sony has shown us that with the square deals in the other thread. Think what would be your next purchase? The next hottest 3rd party that could hurt Sony the most Capcom, It's not revenge just business. Also, remember when some of you said Bethesda could never be bought? I thought so.
 
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Wulfer said:
Not revenge really, it's just business. Sony has shown us that with the square deals in the other thread. Think what would be your next purchase? The next hottest 3rd party that could hurt Sony the most Capcom, It's not revenge just business.
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Lol, it would be EA, by a big ass margin. Capcom is minuscule.

Not that I think they can get away with acquiring EA, it'd be harder than ABK.
 
Wulfer said:
Not revenge really, it's just business. Sony has shown us that with the square deals in the other thread. Think what would be your next purchase? The next hottest 3rd party that could hurt Sony the most Capcom, It's not revenge just business.
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Eh….this sounds a lot like a revenge fantasy my man….

Wulfer said:
If they fail with this merger, their will be even more people upset. MS will make you wish they got the ok for ABK! I'd say you can kiss Capcom goodbye.
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bitbydeath said:
You know the Japanese government doesn't allow it right?
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Gee they say the same about Sega but, no thinks Sega will continue on its own. Sony's buying Sega. MS is buying Sega. Heck even Nintendo was buying Sega at one point. Get outta here with the "they can't buy because its a Japanese company". MS has already announced they intend to increase their Japanese presence so, how do think they end up doing that?
 
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Wulfer said:
Gee they say the same about Sega but, no thinks Sega will continue on its own. Sony's buying Sega. MS is buying Sega. Heck even Nintendo was buying Sega at one point. Get outta here with the "they can't buy because its a Japanese company". MS has already announced they intend to increase their Japanese presence so, how do think they end up doing that?
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MS says a lot of unrealistic things that don't ever come to fruition.

Eg.

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Xbox One: Microsoft aims for 1 billion lifetime sales, 100 million Xbox 360 units

Microsoft's senior vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business Yusuf Mehdi has stated that given the broad mul…
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Wulfer said:
To be fair until MS and ABK announce this deal is dead we can't let this thread go. What will NeoGaf do after this one disappears? Kudos to the OP he made a legendary thread for sure!
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Oh I'm counting on squeezing out a couple of years in this thread on appeals at least! :messenger_beaming:

This thread is great entertainment.
 
Wulfer said:
Gee they say the same about Sega but, no thinks Sega will continue on its own. Sony's buying Sega. MS is buying Sega. Heck even Nintendo was buying Sega at one point. Get outta here with the "they can't buy because its a Japanese company". MS has already announced they intend to increase their Japanese presence so, how do think they end up doing that?
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Must be Wednesday.
 
Wulfer said:
Not revenge really, it's just business. Sony has shown us that with the square deals in the other thread. Think what would be your next purchase? The next hottest 3rd party that could hurt Sony the most Capcom, It's not revenge just business. Also, remember when some of you said Bethesda could never be bought? I thought so.
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Hurt Sony? I've been told over and over these are about giving gamers more options and having "muh CoD"on game pass.
 
Wulfer said:
Not revenge really, it's just business. Sony has shown us that with the square deals in the other thread. Think what would be your next purchase? The next hottest 3rd party that could hurt Sony the most Capcom, It's not revenge just business. Also, remember when some of you said Bethesda could never be bought? I thought so.
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How old are you Wulfer? You joined the forum in 2004. That must put you around late 30s/early 40s by estimates.
 
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