Microsoft buying Nokia Devices and Services

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Its device business now gone, Nokia's plan is to focus, on three core technologies: NSN (its network infrastructure) HERE (its maps and location-based services); and Advanced Technologies (a licensing and development arms. Microsoft will pay Nokia for a four-year license of the HERE services, bringing the newly smaller company more revenue and stability than it had previously. But it also makes Nokia a much smaller company.
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basically it looks like Nokia's hardware business was bought up, but the software/licensing is going to be the "new" Nokia.
 
Seemed like the plan all along.

Put a long time MS guy in charge.
Drive company into the ground so the price is cheap.
BUY!


Really liked Nokia but they had all the wrong moves in the post iPhone world. Would have baught a Nokia Android powered phone as quickly as I could.
 
Monado Blade said:
Why is this a bad thing? Serious question.
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It isn't. It makes sense. WP8 as a platform is nothing but Nokia these days, the other OEM's will throw scrap here and there, but nothing of importance. And WinRT seems to be losing its steam too. MS absolutely needs to guarantee that their mobile OS has at least one hardware manu that will not bail out and leave them barren. This does that.

Whether or not its going to give the trajectory of their efforts a boost on the other hand.... ehh I dunno. We will see though.
 
MS is going through quite a change. Makes sense though, they've done well enough together, I think Nokia was actually gaining smartphone market share recently. I think if they work together to focus on a small set of devices this'll work well for the both of them.
 
Wow. Compared to the $13bn that Google paid for Motorola, this is a steal!
Especially considering Motorola's patents have not really been as impressive as they were bluffing.

I wonder how antitrust is going to handle this. Microsoft has had a recent history of 'flexing' its patent power.
 
jamesinclair said:
I really dont get the business behind this.

How does throwing good money after bad into a black hole make sense?

MS just seems like a "me too!" company these days.

Why cant they lean back, cash the Office and Windows cheques, and leave other things be?
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windows phone is actually growing. The only company making serious windows phone products is nokia so if they buy them and start pushing out product it should grow faster.

They are at I think 7% world wide up from 3% 2 years ago. If they get up to 15% or even 20% that's a lot of money to be made
 
Tabris said:
Almost all of the old cellphone manufacturers have now been bought

HP buys Palm
Sony buys Ericksson
Google buys Motorolla
Microsoft buys Nokia

Apple buys RIM?
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Well technically Sony didn't buy Ericsson, they bought out their joint venture and have access to Ericssons entire patent portfolio. Combined with Sonys own patents, it would seem to make them a force to be reckoned with in the mobile patent world. I don't know if they're the biggest overall when combined or not though. A lot of other big sharks out there.
 
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The Nokia tablet coming at the end of the year exclusive to Verizon might now be branded Surface. Weird.
 
Nokia is huge in entry level and second/third world market phones. Should be interesting to see what happens with the non-smartphone business.
 
eastmen said:
windows phone is actually growing. The only company making serious windows phone products is nokia so if they buy them and start pushing out product it should grow faster.

They are at I think 7% world wide up from 3% 2 years ago. If they get up to 15% or even 20% that's a lot of money to be made
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That's pretty low when you consider how its predecessor, Windows Mobile, at one point had 60% share of the market.
 
Elop and Balmer's open letter:

http://conversations.nokia.com/2013...n-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/

Nokia and Microsoft have always dreamed big – we dreamed of putting a computer on every desk, and a mobile phone in every pocket, and we’ve come a long way toward realizing those dreams.

Today marks a moment of reinvention.

Nokia has an identity spanning 150 years of heritage, innovation, excellence, and change which began and will continue in Finland, as well as around the world. From humble beginnings as a paper mill, to manufacturing rubber boots and car tires, and then to mobile phones, reinvention is in Nokia’s blood.

Now Nokia will write its next chapter, focused on enabling mobility through its leadership in networking, mapping & location, and advanced technologies.

For Microsoft as well, today is a bold step into the future, a huge leap forward on our journey of creating a family of devices and services that delight people and empower businesses of all sizes.

Our partnership over the past two and a half years, which combined our respective strengths to build a new global mobile ecosystem, has created incredible results: award-winning phones and amazing services that have made Nokia Windows Phones the fastest-growing smartphones in the world.

Building on this successful partnership, we announced some important news today: an agreement for Microsoft to purchase Nokia’s Devices & Services business, to deliver more choices, faster innovation, and even more exciting devices and services to our customers.

Today’s agreement will accelerate the momentum of Nokia’s devices and services, bringing the world’s most innovative smartphones to more people, while continuing to connect the next billion people with Nokia’s mobile phone portfolio.

With the commitment and resources of Microsoft to take Nokia’s devices and services forward, we can now realize the full potential of the Windows ecosystem, providing the most compelling experiences for people at home, at work and everywhere in between.

We will continue to build the mobile phones you’ve come to love, while investing in the future – new phones and services that combine the best of Microsoft and the best of Nokia.

Nokia and Microsoft are committed to the next chapter.

Together, we will redefine the boundaries of mobility.

Steve & Stephen

The transaction is expected to close in the first quarter of 2014, subject to approval by Nokia shareholders, regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions. Read more here.
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funkystudent said:
Seemed like the plan all along.

Put a long time MS guy in charge.
Drive company into the ground so the price is cheap.
BUY!


Really liked Nokia but they had all the wrong moves in the post iPhone world. Would have baught a Nokia Android powered phone as quickly as I could.
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. this.
 
Cipherr said:
It isn't. It makes sense. WP8 as a platform is nothing but Nokia these days, the other OEM's will throw scrap here and there, but nothing of importance. And WinRT seems to be losing its steam too. MS absolutely needs to guarantee that their mobile OS has at least one hardware manu that will not bail out and leave them barren. This does that.

Whether or not its going to give the trajectory of their efforts a boost on the other hand.... ehh I dunno. We will see though.
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WinRT never left the station.
 
Nokia reasoning for avoiding android is sound, Samsung build the screens and many of the components in all phones including nokias they are alwAys able to undercut everyone and can make sure their phones get the nee stuff first do you have to differentiate
 
This is huge!

I still won't buy a Windows Phone... sticking to Nexus line. Come to papa Nexus 5.

But give me a Nokia Surface Pro baby!!!!! Best damn tablet ever!
 
Interesting tidbit in the press relase that Microsoft will build a quarter billion dollar data centre in Finland.
 
MrGreencastle said:
Nokia have some brilliant engineers and designers. I can't see this acquisition as being bad for either of them, but this solidifies no Nokia Android device, which could piss some people off (it was never going to happen).

Nokia have done so much good work on Windows Phone, I think this will be great for the platform, as a WP8 user.
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Cipherr said:
It isn't. It makes sense. WP8 as a platform is nothing but Nokia these days, the other OEM's will throw scrap here and there, but nothing of importance. And WinRT seems to be losing its steam too. MS absolutely needs to guarantee that their mobile OS has at least one hardware manu that will not bail out and leave them barren. This does that.

Whether or not its going to give the trajectory of their efforts a boost on the other hand.... ehh I dunno. We will see though.
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Thanks for the replies. Yeah, I personally think this is a good thing but with so many people decrying the decision, I wondered whether there was something I was missing.
 
I was hoping/figuring theyʻd buy Blackberry. That one seems to make more sense than Nokia, even considering the relationship MS and Nokia have had the last few years. I guess they still could snatch up BB.
 
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