Microsoft buying Nokia Devices and Services
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Whipped Spartan
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LOL
They let themselves be bullied by Microsoft and its shady tactics and paid the price. It's simple.
Btw it looks like Elop is being rewarded heftily for running Nokia into the ground. Disgusting. If that isn't proof that this fuck was a trojan horse nothing will be for you.
Skype cost MS more than Nokia's handset division, kina funny
google buying Motorola for 12.5 billion is even more amusing, though they did buy whole of the company and got its patents... which so far not very useful for them. MS sounds like won't own any of Nokia's gold mine of patents? mentions licensing only.
They are getting 8500 design patents, so whatever that means I guess.
edit: looks like a 10 year license on the utility patents, which can be converted into a perpetual deal.
But Nokia was in a downward spiral long before Elop so
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will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
And he worked absolute wonders to reverse the downward trend, didn't he?
So they decided to reward the CEO that accelerated its downward spiral instead of turning things around?
Beautifully Shaped Monsters
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1) You can only develop on Windows 8 pro. For some reason they have excluded the vast majority of the Windows install base (all 7 and 8 home edition).
2) If you want to publish as a company instead of as an individual the number of hoops that have to be jumped through is stupid and makes even Apple look like a pleasure to work with.
I set up a company with some friends recently to make small apps and we initially hoped to exploit the underneurished wp market, but we have decided to drop it for now and focus on Android and iOS.
Android is of course super easy to get started on, but even iOS is pretty easy as long as you have access to OSX.
Of course that should not deter big players, but for smaller one with less resources it prevents it from being first choice.
ThisWreckage
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The Lumia line features a lot of great phones, but I will never buy a cell phone that is a Windows phone.
Whipped Spartan
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http://allthingsd.com/20130902/microsoft-explains-the-rationale-behind-the-nokia-deal/?mod=tweet
PPT Presentation from MS and Nokia announcement. Says the patent situation will extend to OEM's that use WP to give them the most cost efficient OS.
PPT Presentation from MS and Nokia announcement. Says the patent situation will extend to OEM's that use WP to give them the most cost efficient OS.
Certainly could have been worse outcomes after having their pants so far down their ankles in regards to smartphones.
lol, accelerated? They were headed into the shitter at pretty fast rate before Elop arrived.
Warm Machine
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I think it is better to have a phone brand that is singular as opposed to a brand running a brand.
iPhone is synonymous with Apple. But Nokia Lumia running Windows Phone by Microsoft is a branding nightmare.
Windows Phone by Microsoft is much better. They can clean the whole line up and have a better more focused position to market from.
iPhone is synonymous with Apple. But Nokia Lumia running Windows Phone by Microsoft is a branding nightmare.
Windows Phone by Microsoft is much better. They can clean the whole line up and have a better more focused position to market from.
I'm pretty hype about this. Been an Android user for years, but Nokia was always tempting. I absolutely love the aesthetic of their phones and hope it propagates throughout the rest of the company. Imagine if the sale went through a year earlier...we might have had a Lumia-inspired Xbox 1.
killertofu
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Damnit Nokia.
All I wanted was an amazing android phone from you guys.
WHY COULDN'T THIS HAPPEN
All I wanted was an amazing android phone from you guys.
WHY COULDN'T THIS HAPPEN
Bob Dobalina
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I will never forgive Elop for cutting the legs off of the Nokia N9 almost immediately after its announcement.
Don't worry, you won't have that problem in a couple of years, thanks to Microsoft's micromanaging they'll ruin Nokia as soon as they get their hands on it.
It's a shame, I used to be a big Nokia fan.
Yes, I even have it written there.
Doesn't change the fact that he took over @ 8 and brought it down to 3.
Not exactly a result that you would be happy with of a CEO (despite MS of course).
You didn't to begin with, nice edit though.
Like I said, there were worse possible outcomes, lol. Buyout was certainly the most likely scenario given where they were headed. Took them 2 or 3 years longer than I figured though.
Before Elop became a CEO Nokia didn't even consider selling itself. They had problems but also long-term plans to recover. I don't know what you're talking about.
I.. I don't even...
Of course, every company has long-term plans, and those plans rarely include being bought out because you've gone down the shitter, lol. I'm sure BlackBerry had a 10 year plan 3 years ago that foresaw their position being better than it is now.
Whipped Spartan
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Maybe his family was impacted. Seems to be taking it very personal.
Interesting what they plan to do with extra 7 billion dollars.
JimmyRustler
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Wonder how this deal got approoved by the EU...
Nokia has such a small share of the market and windows phone has a tiny part of the market.
They don't care about MS anymore , its apple and google that they will start coming after.
Easy. This isn't Google buying for example Samsung's mobile division. This is a bit player buying another bit player in a market they're both struggling in. If anything this is good for competition.
Vinterbird
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Actually Ericsson is alive and well, they are the worlds largest network management company with over 40% of the worlds mobile traffic going through their technology.
Skype was their last purchase and they're doing a pretty good job with that.
Way I see it, when Microsoft buy something they seem truly passionate about they're very careful, when they're not being arrogant they make amazing products.
I think comparing this to Danger and ignoring Skype is disingenuous.
Skype is software. They didn't touch it, their devices division will destroy this
The comparison still stands, they bought Skype because it worked, they didn't change anything because they didn't need to and they're reaping the benefits. You can apply that to Nokia, they have a winning formula (or as good as it's gonna get).
Yeah, they aren't going to fuck with Asha. They might start messing with the Lumia's, but MS wanted them for their infrastructure and device executive experience mainly. Different from what they wanted Danger for.
killer rin
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Doubt it. They just made Stephen Elop the president of the Devices division. He'll protect Nokia.
Yes, I'm sure a gigantic purchase in the entertainment branch of Microsoft will convince shareholders that wanted to get rid off that branch that they need to keep it.
MaulerX
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Are you reading what's being posted? Everything will stay the same. Elop will still be running things. Only difference is that Microsoft is the owner. From what was announced it looks like the Skype deal in that Microsoft will let things run business as usual.
The Faceless Master
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no way this ends like that
it shouldn't be long till the dual core cpu's windows runs on drops low enough in price and power that windows phone couldn't simply replace asha
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
You don't have to tell me that. I had a Nokia N8.
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