Solideliquid
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Is now the time to buy a 1020 for that sweet camera? What about predictions for the fall/winter season regarding price and continuing app development for the platform?
Microsoft buying Nokia Devices and Services
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Doesn't change the fact they are growing and are being bought by a decent number of people, which was my point.
Microsoft bought the phone related patents so that would include camera related patents too.
EDIT: Actually I'm not sure. At least they licensed it for 10 years for Microsoft.
I don't think we wil see a successor for the 1020 until june-july next year, this end year we will see the 6 inch phablet. And I don't think Nokia will suddenly stop releasing their amazing apps soon.
Apparently so. They can only use the 'Nokia' name on the feature phones. They can use 'Lumia' all they want though. So I guess they will have to call them Microsoft Lumias? I really wonder how thats going to go over in the EU regions.
We will see I guess.
I understood that they are free to use Nokia brand on any phone for the next yen years.
michaelius
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Well I hope they get serious as i want to check Windows Mobile as my next phone.
I'm kind of hopeful because now they can develop hardware and software under the same roof. Generally speaking I would argue this makes better products and faster.
So what was the reason microsoft actually bought this?
UnblessedSoul
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RIP Nokia your great camera phones could have sold a lot on the android market, but instead you went with a dead platform
Secure an OEM for their OS. Apparently Nokia was 80% of the WP8 sales share. And because the pie for the OS is as small as it is, and its in such a crucial part of its life, it makes sense to lock it down and make sure you will always have phones being released. Besides, what changes really? Its all almost business as usual anyway, they are just in house now. Makes sense.
No. Many think this way, I highly doubt that. Android is too flooded.
I think a lot of people would have bough a Nokia Android phone if they had released them a few years ago, android flood or not. They were probably the only name that could have taken it to Samsung.
There is nothing special about the Pureview tech, Nokia just use an expensive and large (huge in the phone world) camera for the 808 and 1020.
For the 920, its just optical stablizer come with the camera module. The module is most likely Sony.
You really underestimate the R&D that goes in to camera development.
Hahaha yep, just as easy as that.
No way, maybe in 1 or 2 markets but globally no way, Windows Phone has made people forget that Nokias software is garbage, they would have replaced Google Maps with NavTeq, probably replaced the Play store with Ovi, had their own shitty PC sync software and probably forced Nokia music down your throat as well.
If Nokia made Android phones the number 1 most searched term for them online would have been "How to root nokias". You'd be calling Touchwiz a gift from heaven.
Add to that the fact that Nokia can't compete with Samsung on specs or price, they don't have the manufacturing capacity, they'd have struggled to compete with HTC.
Being on a platform where specs don't matter and user experience is pre-defined has done wonders for hiding the faults that killed Nokia in the smartphone business to start with.
Well if this deal doesn't get approved by the European Union then Microsoft will still give apparently Nokia $750 million. So of course there you have it. The grand scheme. Nokia realized Windows Phone has no future and made this deal hoping that the European Union will say no and then use the $750 million as a nest egg to start making Android phones.
There was also a deal about funding of $1.5 billion from Microsoft to Nokia. This doesn't require that the deal this thread is about will happen either. This will naturally go into making Android phones as well.
PetriP-TNT
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I'd rather see Nokia pick up Meego again than Android.
Well that would be interesting too. Jokes aside it would be interesting to see what Nokia would do if officials said that the deal cannot be.
PumpkinPie
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Good news I think. Nokia make the best Windows phones, so it makes sense for Microsoft to want that for themselves.
Opus Angelorum
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I think this is a great acquisition.
Bob Dobalina
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If Microsoft isn't allowed to use the Nokia brand name for future Lumia phones, then I think the future is going to be even rockier than most here think.
Microsoft as a brand is toxic to the consumer. People outside the US buy Lumias because they are Nokias, not because they run Microsoft software.
Microsoft as a brand is toxic to the consumer. People outside the US buy Lumias because they are Nokias, not because they run Microsoft software.
I'd love to see some actual data on this because I just don't think it's as big a deal as people say, there's a great big Windows button on every nokia lumia sold, if the MS brand was that toxic they wouldn't be buying it now. There are very good reasons Windows Phone isn't that popular, anti-microsoft agendas probably don't even make the top 10.
Changing the branding to Windows Lumia would barely be noticeable to the consumer.
Zune-Gage
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When you compare a Lumia to a similary priced Samsung Android phone, I think Lumia feels and looks a lot better overall. But WP is so unattractive as a ecosystem, that people choose Android over it. If they could get a Android Lumia, I think the sales would have been a lot better.
When you compare a Lumia to a similarly priced Android phone, it has a 12 month old processor, half the ram, and no SD card slot...still want one?
SpoonyBard
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Er, I was not talking about those things. Form factor, features and user experience are more important than specs. Of course Android requires more CPU power to run as smoothly as WP, but on the other hand you are not tied to Qualcomm's platform, so the price difference is not that huge in the end.
dragonelite
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Gimma dat surface phone with vapor mag case..
Dont want some cheap ass plastic cover phone
zomgbbqftw
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Shares are up 50% in Finland and 40% in the US premarket.
Opus Angelorum
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I think they'll simply be known as Windows Phone #.
zomgbbqftw
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Or Microsoft Lumia.
Or the Elop Flop Fone.
Lumia (by MS).
MS will keep the Lumia branding as long as it needs to differentiate its own products from 3rd party manufacturers.
Windows Phone is the OS.
Lumia is now akin to Xbox. it's a brand under the Devices/Services division oriented towards mobile products whereas Xbox is oriented towards gaming/entertainment products.
Curious what it means for Surface...and the soon to be announced Surface revisions and the Nokia tablet. feels like both are sent to die/ are stop gaps until next year new batch of mobile products.
Xbox Lumia incoming?
or Lumia can hide help MS kill RT. they can build tablets using Windows Phone.
and keep the Surface naming for the Pro line.
Is MS paying a premium over the stock's current value?
The Bookerman
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I used to think metro looked cool. until Microsoft put it everywhere. Now it makes me puke.
Nokia was already dead to me. So I guess this makes sense.
Nokia was already dead to me. So I guess this makes sense.
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