Spiderman fans disagree
they bought them after release.I don't believe Sony owned Insomniac when they made the first Spiderman game. I could be wrong.
Again i disagree.MS is investing on Xbox, by expanding it. Shareholders wants to see a progress. MS is talking to them, that they are going to stay, and increase their investment in this space.
Recent moves, such as gamepass, xcloud for cloud gaming, and now the mobile investment.
MS is thinking about the future, and how to capitalize on those gamers. Current situation doesn't matter, as that can be fixed by money. What matter is the future for their business.
Look at the current gaming trend. Your typical normal games are dying slowly, in favor of those money making games, like live service or f2p games.
they bought them after release.
Gaming is making alot of money in the current market, due to f2p and live service games.Again i disagree.
I think MS is testing the limit of how much they need Xbox.
I dont think xbox is bringing enough to the table for MS to need them currently. But with activision, phil and satya can say, ok xbox is bringin 30 to 40 billion to the table through gamepass sub, mtxs and mobile revenue etc.
The reason why you are getting top notch 1st party games from PS and great cameras on phones, is because sony desperatly need their ps brand and lens/censor business to sucseed since they bring the most money. Sony need ps to be sucsessfull so bad that they can easily cancel a sequel of 10 million sold game (days gone) in a heart beat. Because ps needs to be perfect.so much riding on it.
If i am being honest, i dont think MS' needed Xbox for the last 6 or 7 years, if they ever needed xbox to begin with.
If you wanna know what happens when a giant company no longer needs a product, google vaio, stadia, google plus, vine, kinect, xperia, ipod etc.
When asked about what Microsoft's ultimate ambition is in the gaming business, Nadella said: "Microsoft isn't a conglomerate, I want to be very clear. It's not about sort of gaming here and productivity here."
These few words have the stock market paying extra attention. Not because it oversteps the boundary from PR smoke into blatant lie. But because the lie hints at desperation. For hedge funds, banks, traders, and financial institutions it's the equivalent of blood in the water.
"Blood" in this instance being the chance to make easy money if the deal doesn't pan out.
This is him acknowledging that gaming is part of them now. Unlike old xbox, where it was just a side product.These few words have the stock market paying extra attention. Not because it oversteps the boundary from PR smoke into blatant lie. But because the lie hints at desperation. For hedge funds, banks, traders, and financial institutions it's the equivalent of blood in the water.
"Blood" in this instance being the chance to make easy money if the deal doesn't pan out.
I was actually going to ask what is Sony's answer to Bethesda and what do they have specifically to rival Elder Scrolls games. I'll be bummed out if those games are never physically on Sony consoles again.The Google and Amazon bogeyman failed so now they bought Activision and Bethesda to have more competition with Take 2 and EA?
That guy is just saying whatever like the Metaverse shit before. Clueless.
Contrast to PS that just release the games with minimal PRMS sure like talking.
i actually was wondering what is Sony planning right now, they kept their mouth shut majority of the time.Contrast to PS that just release the games with minimal PR
Let the games do the talking
Phil said,
Sayta said,
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Coming from a multi trillion dollar company that could buy the other Big 2 4x over??typical PR words.
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Got no issues with Xbox. I love some of their games but i feel Phil and Satya are too much on the PR trail.i actually was wondering what is Sony planning right now, they kept their mouth shut majority of the time.
I can smell the surprise coming in 2023.
No, you are not wrong. I should have been more specific and stated Spiderman fans going forward.I don't believe Sony owned Insomniac when they made the first Spiderman game. I could be wrong.
Eddie take a break from making so many threads
Its not rocket science. More platforms and places to sell games means better for publishers.What a load of crap. Buy up publishers to increase competition? This is clown world level. At this point there's zero reason for anyone to take anything they say about this deal at face value.
Please let us know what are those new "places" Activision are now able to sell their games because they were acquired by MS.Its not rocket science. More platforms and places to sell games means better for publishers.
Lets not go there.Its not rocket science. More platforms and places to sell games means better for publishers.
No, you are not wrong. I should have been more specific and stated Spiderman fans going forward.
Not sure as they have not mentioned removing anything from any platform in this interview. Check your eyes mate.Removing games from one of the biggest gaming plattform where those games arguably sell the most is now seen as giving more options to the player?
Dafuq did i just read……
Exactly!What a load of crap. Buy up publishers to increase competition? This is clown world level. At this point there's zero reason for anyone to take anything they say about this deal at face value.
Why does this notion that Gamepass somehow can't be sustainable still exist?Xbox is not a sinking ship. I am pretty sure it is quite profitable. But when compare to revenue stream from azure and windows, i am pretty sure the board is lmaoing the xbox revenue.
I may be the only person in this forum that pays full price monthly to gamepass. I love that service. It is great. But for gamepass to work it needs constant content. Like netflix disney plus etc. If not, it is unsustainable. Because you can not keep dropping money on 3rd partys pockets. You just cant.
This paragraph is chock full of problems. First of all, what happened to dropping money in 3rd party's pockets not being sustainable? You don't seem to believe that PS Plus is unsustainable, and it relies almost entirely on 3rd party content vs Gamepass having day one 1st party games as well. If spending money for 3rd party content isn't sustainable, then your comparison doesn't make sense.After all that investment and acquisitions, gamepass only has 25 mill subs. Which is 10 mill below probably one of the worst subscription models, nintendo online and nearly half of ps plus. And can you say sony and nintendo invest the same amount on their subscriptipn systems? I am certain nintendo probably spend %1 of what MS is spending on gamepass. PS may be half of it. After sometime shareholders would like to see some return from their investments and unfortunately, gamepass growth has slowed down signficantly. Because there arent many xboxes out there and noone cares about cloud gaming.
I agree that MS intends to invest in a steady stream of content for Gamepass. Not sure too many would argue otherwise. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the Bethesda acquisition is simply a bet that didn't pay out though. They knew about the Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop deals with Sony before they purchased them, and Starfield hasn't released yet. None of that is an indicator that Bethesda is "lazy af".CoD is a mutli billion dolar revenue franchise every year and I guess nobody understand how desparetly MS need Activision as a infinite source of content every year. Because their bet on bethesda didnt pay out since bathesda is lazy af.
So no. Its not about the brand. Its not about the support. Its them, needing quality content on Gamepass right now.
Really? That needs to be said explicitly?Not sure as they have not mentioned removing anything from any platform in this interview. Check your eyes mate.
Holy shit can Microsoft stop saying this shit. They're locking games that were multiplat into their own eco system.
This is not more options for gamers, doesn't matter what warrior you are, it's literally less options for gamers.
Again i disagree.
I think MS is testing the limit of how much they need Xbox.
I dont think xbox is bringing enough to the table for MS to need them currently. But with activision, phil and satya can say, ok xbox is bringin 30 to 40 billion to the table through gamepass sub, mtxs and mobile revenue etc.
The reason why you are getting top notch 1st party games from PS and great cameras on phones, is because sony desperatly need their ps brand and lens/censor business to sucseed since they bring the most money. Sony need ps to be sucsessfull so bad that they can easily cancel a sequel of 10 million sold game (days gone) in a heart beat. Because ps needs to be perfect.so much riding on it.
If i am being honest, i dont think MS' needed Xbox for the last 6 or 7 years, if they ever needed xbox to begin with.
If you wanna know what happens when a giant company no longer needs a product, google vaio, stadia, google plus, vine, kinect, xperia, ipod etc.
Are you stupid or pretend to be?Not sure as they have not mentioned removing anything from any platform in this interview. Check your eyes mate.
Not sure as they have not mentioned removing anything from any platform in this interview. Check your eyes mate.
WatMicrosoft had people distracted with their electronics since the 90s Xbox sales got to be off the charts with the amount of seres s Black Friday sales.
Yeah cos they were backed into a corner. And originally it was just honouring existing contracts IE a few years.Except they've gone on the record innumerable times saying COD would be multiplatform going forward.
Nadella: "we've been gaming for decades, we'll be in gaming for the future even if activision deal falls through"
You: "Microsoft is going to kill their profitable gaming business"
I choose to believe his an alien from mars, beyond our comprehension
Are you stupid or pretend to be?
Yes, I feel for you. It must be exhausting for you anti-Xbox guys at the moment.I'm tired of MS's PR bullshit.
Spencer himself told something that without mobile xbox model is unsustainable.Why does this notion that Gamepass somehow can't be sustainable still exist?
This paragraph is chock full of problems. First of all, what happened to dropping money in 3rd party's pockets not being sustainable? You don't seem to believe that PS Plus is unsustainable, and it relies almost entirely on 3rd party content vs Gamepass having day one 1st party games as well. If spending money for 3rd party content isn't sustainable, then your comparison doesn't make sense.
Not that it really does anyway because you're not even comparing apples to apples to begin with. Nintendo doesn't even have a service comparable to Gamepass, and the one Sony did have (PS Now) did so poorly that they had to repackage as tiers to PS Now. Xbox Live Gold is the comparative service, and is far more in line with the others.
I agree that MS intends to invest in a steady stream of content for Gamepass. Not sure too many would argue otherwise. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the Bethesda acquisition is simply a bet that didn't pay out though. They knew about the Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop deals with Sony before they purchased them, and Starfield hasn't released yet. None of that is an indicator that Bethesda is "lazy af".
I mean, I don't entirely disagree with your premise that MS is trying to get quality content for Gamepass. I'm just confused at how you reached that conclusion based on all the flawed logic you used to get there.
Nah, we are here playing games, it's just tiresome to see clowns repeating themselves over and over without bringing anything new and any results to the table. If you like to suck up to executives, that's your problem.Yes, I feel for you. It must be exhausting for you anti-Xbox guys at the moment.
That is not what i am saying. All i am saying as that if they dont see the returns on their investment they may leave the hardware biz and go the sega way.Nadella: "we've been gaming for decades, we'll be in gaming for the future even if activision deal falls through"
You: "Microsoft is going to kill their profitable gaming business"
Ok, show me just one post in this thread so far where anyone is sucking up to executives, just one? It's like you guys are fighting your own shadows.Nah, we are here playing games, it's just tiresome to see clowns repeating themselves over and over without bringing anything new and any results to the table. If you like to suck up to executives, that's your problem.
Blah, blah, blah. These executive's empty words are going to get even more annoying.
So what more platforms and places is that then?Its not rocket science. More platforms and places to sell games means better for publishers.