Microsoft has announced job cuts at Xbox Division

thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
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Foot soldiers, fighting the good fight online already for microsoft.
 
LordCBH said:
Fire the expensive Americans. Import the less expensive Indians. Like clockwork.
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in my experience being around these firms, the cost is an afterthought. Or just a nice side effect. They're the most ethnically exclusionary people I've ever worked around. It's not even close.
 
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I wonder when all the dust settles who was really impacted.

I wouldn't mind a cleanup of the DEI era hires to go. I can't imagine how bloated that got during covid hiring spree.
 
simpatico said:
Wait, is this the same Microsoft that just applied for over 6,000 H1B visas?

Not the big reduction in headcount that it seems, more like ethnic cleansing. I know when I worked for big household name industrial giant, once you get certain people into a hiring role, they will do everything in their power to hire their ethnic brethren. If you work in engineering you know exactly who I'm talking about. Basically run Microsoft now.
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Hmmmm.... Interesting hearing "other" people now starting to understand the feeling of what it's like to get passed over because "other" people would rather hire their own......
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Killing a few games that were destined to be complete disasters?

The bigger issue is how much money was invested into games like Everwild, a 10 year project

It sounds like the hardware people are mostly safe which is surprising looking at sales figures
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What I mean is: gamers will always have new games to play. On the other hand, these recurring layoffs will impact morale and internal politics going forward. As I said way back when, Xbox could experience power vacuums and senior devs fleeing the company, which would further perpetuate poor management, quality issues, and inconsistency in the scope and cadence of future games
 
mckmas8808 said:
Hmmmm.... Interesting hearing "other" people now starting to understand the feeling of what it's like to get passed over because "other" people would rather hire their own......
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If everyone just advocates for themselves and their people it keeps things cut and dry. It's really nature's way. This removes all the subterfuge and pretense. When only one side stops, things get weird.
 
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simpatico said:
If everyone just advocates for themselves and their people it keeps things cut and dry. It's really nature's way. This removes all the subterfuge and pretense. When only one side stops, things get weird.
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"When only one side stops, things get weird."
- Phil Spencer
 
Punished Miku said:
"When only one side stops, things get weird."
- Phil Spencer
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Well you can imagine what happens when the one side finally looks around and does some accounting on what the hell has happened in the last 30 years. Would love to redirect this thing and avoid that timeline. There's still a chance.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Hmmmm.... Interesting hearing "other" people now starting to understand the feeling of what it's like to get passed over because "other" people would rather hire their own......
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That's the thing with foreign born CEOs, they don't have that deep, unspoken bond with the citizens of the country they live in. There's not that a feeling of community that would lead them to change or soften hard hitting decisions that would impact local communities. 1000 jobs for US workers or cheaper 1000 jobs in India ... My guess is a US born CEO would look at that question differently than a CEO who born in Asia.
 
LordCBH said:
Oh it did. But I've always been a firm believe that you should ALWAYS keep your resume up to date and be ready to send it out.
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Also know your companies financials. If Revenue, projects are down and/or great people are leaving, you'll know. Those signs usually give at least a few months notice. They may even start giving you more work as others leave including things outside the description while they take no additional responsibilities like they leave at 5pm but you stay until 9pm every night.
 
Illyria said:
Also know your companies financials. If Revenue, projects are down and/or great people are leaving, you'll know. Those signs usually give at least a few months notice. They may even start giving you more work as others leave including things outside the description while they take no additional responsibilities like they leave at 5pm but you stay until 9pm every night.
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Deadass I got in trouble once cause I left at 9PM one night. Not for staying late. But because I left before everything was done. I had been at work since 7AM that day lol.

That's when I really started making sure my resume was up to date and ready.
 
Punished Miku said:
Yeah well I'm not removing anything. This is exactly what you'd expect from a 1st party transitioning to 3rd party after cratering hardware sales. This isn't some Playstation layoffs thread. The systems literally aren't selling.
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That was the excuse last time around, isn't hardware an afterthought for MS Gaming now that their focus is on third-party publishing? Why would it dictate these baffling moves that will directly impact on their third-party pipeline? Why were we even told that they've been at their most successful time ever for publishing high-performing tentpole releases (Call of Duty: Black Ops 6, The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion Remastered and Forza Horizon 5) on PS5?
The transition already happened 1.5 years ago, and MS has been, since then, benefitting from the success of the likes of ABK's Candy Crush and BLOPS4. The Xbox Series utterly collapsing on its market has definitely nothing to do with King being targeted for layoffs here.
 
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Nydius said:
And to add to this, the entire reason they wanted the acquisition, supposedly. According to Phil (and others) during the whole ABK campaign with the CMA and FTC, they wanted it primarily as a means to break into the mobile market.
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King can't provide expertise, it's known for years. They can do Candy crash and it's derivatives and that's all.
Even Activision/Blizzard itself didn't used King for their IP for mobile (it was Tencent and Netease)
So either they lied or were completelly out of touch with subject.
 
Buggy Loop said:
I wonder when all the dust settles who was really impacted.

I wouldn't mind a cleanup of the DEI era hires to go. I can't imagine how bloated that got during covid hiring spree.
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These aren't necessarily DEI hires. The problem there came from the hiring of outside consultant firms to "fix" games. This sounds more like the downsizing of a console 1st party company to that of a multiplatform 3rd party company.
 
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simpatico said:
Wait, is this the same Microsoft that just applied for over 6,000 H1B visas?

Not the big reduction in headcount that it seems, more like ethnic cleansing. I know when I worked for big household name industrial giant, once you get certain people into a hiring role, they will do everything in their power to hire their ethnic brethren. If you work in engineering you know exactly who I'm talking about. Basically run Microsoft now.
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Let's....let's not do this?

Gambit2483 said:
This is all part of their transition to 3rd party publisher. SEGA did the Same thing after Dreamcast.
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Compared to MS, SEGA's transition felt rather orderly and matter-of-fact. Nothing drawn out, everything upfront. I think they deserve a lot of credit for making the transition rather swift and seamless.

Also, I don't remember them closing up tons of studios. They just let go of people from the Western branches related to hardware & marketing, and maybe STI if that was even still a thing. But they kept all their dev studios and in fact they made some new ones, like Hitmaker, with members from other teams that were getting restructured.

LordCBH said:
Fire the expensive Americans. Import the less expensive Indians. Like clockwork.
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Maybe they're just hiring more competent people who happen to not be from America and happen to be cheaper?

I'd agree that it's messed up to a degree, but lots of the Big Tech companies do it, and it's definitely not an "ethnic cleansing" like simpatcio was saying. Not even close 😂

kruis said:
That's the thing with foreign born CEOs, they don't have that deep, unspoken bond with the citizens of the country they live in. There's not that a feeling of community that would lead them to change or soften hard hitting decisions that would impact local communities. 1000 jobs for US workers or cheaper 1000 jobs in India ... My guess is a US born CEO would look at that question differently than a CEO who born in Asia.
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You're overthinking this and also giving a US-born CEO too much credit. There've been tons of US companies over the years with US-born CEOs who've replaced domestic workforce with jobs in foreign countries, or replaced domestic employees with H1B Visa workers.

At the end of the day, these companies have zero loyalty to anything other than the almighty dollar. Race, color, gender, sexuality, creed...all of it's interchangeable to them if it means they can maximize profit margins.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Maybe they're just hiring more competent people who happen to not be from America and happen to be cheaper?

I'd agree that it's messed up to a degree, but lots of the Big Tech companies do it, and it's definitely not an "ethnic cleansing" like simpatcio was saying. Not even close 😂
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The main issues isn't Microsoft exploiting it, the real main issue is the government allowing it in the first place.
 
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