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[Dynomutt]

My money on the next big player is Amazon.

They're rapidly expanding (or acquiring) very solid tools and services in gaming:

• AWS is still huge for game servers.
• Twitch is still the #1 streaming platform.
• Lumberyard could be a great game engine.
• Amazon obviously has digital distribution power.
• They've acquired or invested in several studios.
• And Amazon has plenty of capital to keep investing.

I actually expected some type of partnership between them and Sony ala Spotify. Bring Alexa to consoles. Have them provide the back end for PSN and they could work with Sony on original content. Maybe implement instant video into PSN etc....

It's not outlandish and would be a win win.

 

[Salty Rice]

 

[Bishop89]

This never gets old

 

[cackhyena]

Why did Amazon call their engine Lumberyard? Amazon. Lumberyard. Did anyone at Amazon think that was maybe a bad idea?

I feel it's like anything else. If it becomes popular enough, we just accept it. Xbox or Playstation sound kinda stupid to me when I think about them long enough. Google, Yahoo, etc, the list goes on and on. They just become household names you just...say.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

With Windows.

Their living room gaming hardware - it's totally separate from MS, a different division! Not a PC. It's got a totally different OS and interface.

But then down the line, MS bridges the gap and combines the two.

Windows 10 on your Xbox One 0

A PC undercover as a games console, with replaceable parts, a fully couch/handheld friendly Xbox interfaced part of Windows. Which communicates with all your devices, and can even stream to them. With everything you'd expect from a PC. All in one, slowly introducing a PC to the living room through video games.

Who can compete with that?


-Edit: Apple? They're behind the ball with bigger games. Windows always needed mobile support and to be better with games, and they made separate interfaces and OS and spent money learning how...

It makes sense to combine that at some point.

 

[Amir0x]

I feel it's like anything else. If it becomes popular enough, we just accept it. Xbox or Playstation sound kinda stupid to me when I think about them long enough. Google, Yahoo, etc, the list goes on and on. They just become household names you just...say.

Xbox or PlayStation may sound stupid, but that's not the issue with Lumberyard in that poster's view.

Amazon = Amazon Rain Forest, consistently at risk for deforestation
Lumberyard = where wood goes after deforestation

Bad ecological association, no one wants that shit. I don't think it's too big of a deal but it is kind of on the line.

 

[SmokedMeat]

My money on the next big player is Amazon.

They're rapidly expanding (or acquiring) very solid tools and services in gaming:

• AWS is still huge for game servers.
• Twitch is still the #1 streaming platform.
• Lumberyard could be a great game engine.
• Amazon obviously has digital distribution power.
• They've acquired or invested in several studios.
• And Amazon has plenty of capital to keep investing.

I can imagine an Amazon game console.

Beat the boss without taking damage for free shipping on your next Amazon order!

Targeted ads all over the place.

 

[LCGeek]

I was gonna be serious and then the mad max is this bait picture appeared in my head.

Nah, no thanks you keep drinking, smoking, vaping, or ingesting whatever you got for the weekend.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Why did Amazon call their engine Lumberyard? Amazon. Lumberyard. Did anyone at Amazon think that was maybe a bad idea?

Unreal Engine got named that because it was built for a game named Unreal. That's it. There's no other meaning behind that name.

 

[CJY]

BTW, how long is eventually?

Haha, perhaps he meant "eventually", as in "later in time", with time being somewhere along the space-time continuum, within our multiverse.

If that's the case, then yes, I agree

 

[cackhyena]

Xbox or PlayStation may sound stupid, but that's not the issue with Lumberyard in that poster's view.

Amazon = Amazon Rain Forest, consistently at risk for deforestation
Lumberyard = where wood goes after deforestation

Bad ecological association, no one wants that shit. I don't think it's too big of a deal but it is kind of on the line.

Jesus, I must be more tired than I thought. That went right over my head. smh

 

[Servbot24]

It's certainly possible, but a million different things are possible. It's such wild speculation there's no reason to have a serious talk about it.

 

[Sorcerer Supreme]

What is a Microsoft?

 

[Chobel]

 

[Brokun]

Unfortunately OP Microsoft has one major hurdle to surmount before that happens: Microsoft.

 

[Mrbob]

So is the Xbox division dead then outside of first party games in your scenario OP? Because MS might control gaming with Windows but that is with Steam leading the charge and Xbox on PC a giant afterthought.

I'm pretty sure the Windows division would take that trade-off.

 

[meppi]

 

[GamingPheasant]

Linux will take over the OS space.

DCEU movies will eventually be good.


this is fun

DCEU movies are good. Just not to some people's taste.

Well, MS certainly made their intentions felt when they revealed the XB1.

 

[Ahasverus]

Oh yeah, the good old "rule the living room" strategy that worked so well in the past.

So, so well.

Thank you Don for your input.

 

[WickedLaharl]

But yeah ms will achieve the long coveted dream soon lolol

 

[Skyzard]

So is the Xbox division dead then outside of first party games in your scenario OP? Because MS might control gaming with Windows but that is with Steam leading the charge and Xbox on PC a giant afterthought.

I'm pretty sure the Windows division would take that trade-off.

I think they'd let steam on it, they'd have to if it's windows. Xbox might still be involved with the hardware and parts of the interface, right? They have the living room experience, as does the mobile OS parts... MS box? Sounds too much like a PC, probably still call it Xbox.

 

[Lifeline]

Microsoft will rule gaming with a Microsoft branded steam box?

 

[Wesley-Sigma]

Right on.

 

[Dr. Black Jack]

They've had almost 20 years to accomplish this and still aren't any closer than when they started.

 

[ActWan]

Isn't that the Steam machine?

Yet everyone always seem to comfortably forget about that...
Hell, it's like some people here don't understand the appeal in consoles at all.

 

[Deputy Moonman]

No hyperbole in the thread title detected...

Rule is a strong word. But if they play their cards right, which they never do btw. They can be a very significant player.

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[frontovik]

I needed a good laugh today, thanks OP.

 

[Timeaisis]

You could have made the exact same thread 10 years ago and nothing would have changed.

 

[Skyzard]

^ they've had time to work on and learn from Mobile OS.

Isn't that the Steam machine?

Steam doesn't have the brand name recognition in the living room and wanted to jump straight into it.

 

[David___]

I think they'd let steam on it, to begin with at least. Xbox might still be involved with the hardware and interface, right? They have the living room experience, as does the mobile OS parts... MS box? Sounds too much like a PC, probably still call it Xbox.

They arent going to put Steam on it when they have their own store to push. If the box isnt pushing everything Windows then its worthless to "rule the living room" when you arent getting any money from purchases on it

 

[blackgandorf]

It's a strong statement. As others said before, they have to put more effort on offer/make good games instead of worrying too much about hardware gimmicks that not really transcends into gameplay expericence.

On PC, the MS Store and the use of UWP are still so far behind Steam and other gaming platforms, they really need to improve or change that before make "integration".

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

a little off topic but weren't there more variations of that image?

that stuff started popping up during the xb1 reveal

funny times

 

[Skyzard]

They arent going to put Steam on it when they have their own store to push. If the box isnt pushing everything Windows then its worthless to "rule the living room" when you arent getting any money from purchases on it

If it's truly windows then they'd have to. You have your OS as the hub, that's going to have knock-on desires to get your devices working with it. That's not worthless.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Thanks for the laugh OP.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

a little off topic but weren't there more variations of that image?

that stuff started popping up during the xb1 reveal

funny times

Ye it was a marketing move gone wrong.

 

[CJY]

^ they've had time to work on Mobile OS.



Steam doesn't have the brand name recognition in the living room and wanted to jump straight into it.

Neither does Microsoft in the living to be honest. They herald from an office and productivity background. Microsoft didn't even want their branding on the OG Xbox.

Nokia and Microsoft said the same thing when Apple introduced the first iPhone.

Yes, MS have a better chance than Valve have with steam of dominating the living room, but ain't no single company gonna dominate the living room, so the point is moot.

 

[DMONKUMA]

Steam doesn't have the brand name recognition in the living room and wanted to jump straight into it.

Yeah if Xbox/Microsoft did something like that then they definitely would be more appeal, but they got to ultimately work for it by provide exclusive content, deals and partnerships that you would only get on the ecosystem. Right now they are lacking and I really can't see what they would do next in terms of their software.

 

[GankzyMcfly]

As an xbox enthusiast ive been down this road before...it doesnt end well friend.

 

[Sorcerer]

Didn't Microsoft just recently figure out drive letters, as in choosing where you want to download your game?
Yeah, at this rate Microsoft will dominate absolutely nothing.

 

[GameAddict411]

The other thread today about console hype which was locked(thank god) was about how was the PC hardware makers will respond to the Scorpio. I face-palmed so hard and cringed to the point where I think it became permanent. I blame Digital Foundry for spreading MS buzzwords and marketing. The Scorpio is not made out of magic and it certainly isn't going to save MS Xbox division alone. I think MS has major issues in other aspect of their system other than hardware(experimenting with games for example, or new IPs). The Scorpio is a console with an overclocked four years old laptop CPU + an overclocked rx 480. It's not going to magically make any PC absolute.

The message that the OP mentioned is what MS was aiming to do since the original launch of Xbox. It's been 15 years since then, and they not have been that successful in achieving it.

 

[Skyzard]

Yeah if Xbox/Microsoft did something like that then they definitely would be more appeal, but they got to ultimately work for it by provide exclusive content, deals and partnerships that you would only get on the ecosystem. Right now they are lacking and I really can't see what they would do next in terms of their software.

PC has loads of exclusives already and they'd keep making Xbox first party titles too.

 

[fastford58]

What year is this?

 

[13ruce]

No.

 

[bigjig]

I think they'd let steam on it, they'd have to if it's windows. Xbox might still be involved with the hardware and parts of the interface, right? They have the living room experience, as does the mobile OS parts... MS box? Sounds too much like a PC, probably still call it Xbox.

If they put Steam on it Valve would be the predominant player, not Microsoft

 

[GabeTheGrouch76]

With Windows.

Their living room gaming hardware - it's totally separate from MS, a different division! Not a PC. It's got a totally different OS and interface.

But then down the line, MS bridges the gap and combines the two.

Windows 10 on your Xbox One 0

A PC undercover as a games console, with replaceable parts, a fully couch/handheld friendly Xbox interfaced part of Windows. Which communicates with all your devices, and can even stream to them. With everything you'd expect from a PC. All in one, slowly introducing a PC to the living room through video games.

Who can compete with that?


-Edit: Apple? They're behind the ball with bigger games. Windows always needed mobile support and to be better with games, and they made separate interfaces and OS and spent money learning how...

It makes sense to combine that at some point.

Hot Take: The Thread.

Top tier pic.

 

[Markoman]

Oh, I need to return to this thread when drunk. Shit, it's Sunday. Hope this thread survives until next Friday.

 

[DMONKUMA]

PC has loads of exclusives already and they'd keep making Xbox first party titles too.

So it would include not only the Windows Store/Xbox Store but also Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.....because that would definitely have the argument for exclusives on PC. But with the Windows store by itself....dunno.

 

[Justin Bailey]

Unreal Engine got named that because it was built for a game named Unreal. That's it. There's no other meaning behind that name.

Yeah but if my company was named Ocean, I probably wouldn't name my engine something like, Oil Tanker, for example

 

[Skyzard]

If they put Steam on it Valve would be the predominant player, not Microsoft

They already are. And MS will continue to sell first-party titles through Windows. They may sacrifice their third-party cut but they would have a PC be your living room hub. Which would have high compatibility with their tablets, phones and even laptops.

The thing is, they could allow support with steam games into the xbox interface through shortcuts. Not quite as good as the real thing. Eventually, people may switch.

So it would include not only the Windows Store/Xbox Store but also Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.....because that would definitely have the argument for exclusives on PC. But with the Windows store by itself....dunno.

Yep.

 

[xevis]

Hilarious OP. Not a snowflake's chance.