Microsoft published 6 big games this year. None were nominated for GOTY.

How bad was 2017 for games that Horizon Zero Dawn was nominated?
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odhiex said:
DICE or BAFTA are among the prestigious award shows, if you're really interested.
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DICE is just developers giving each other awards. It's like the oscars, only the critics dont get a say.

BAFTA is similar. it's just industry workers. Thats where the prestige comes in. It's manufactured as fuck. Any good award should take into account the critics media otherwise its just developers jerking each other off in an incestous ceremony.
 
poppabk said:
How bad was 2017 for games that Horizon Zero Dawn was nominated?
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2017 was great.

Mario Odyssey
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Nier Automata
Nioh
Zelda Breath of the Wild
Resident Evil 7
Cuphead
Prey
Hellblade 1

Horizon ZD was great and earned a nomination against some very stiff competition. Its sequel, not so much, but 2022 was a relatively weak year.
 
Not surprising at all. None of the games they put out were GOTY material. Good games but not anything outstanding.
 
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SlimySnake said:
What can Microsoft do at this point to garner that GOTY buzz they have been missing for well over a decade now.

The following games from MS studios including ones they inherited from the Activision and Zenimax deals were eligible.

- Indiana Jones
- Avowed
- South of Midnight
- Doom: Dark Ages
- Outer Worlds 2
- Call of Duty Black Ops 7

They had a fairly good year in terms of quantity. Most of these were good to great games. Just not GOTY worthy according to the VGA critics who are mostly made up of critics around the world. Are the studios they have acquired just not capable of making GOTY caliber games? Doom Eternal was nominated in 2020 iirc so they have at least one studio thats capable. And Phil did give them five years. They just failed. He also gave machine games 6 years to make Indy and they still couldnt beat a couple of indie games for a GOTY nomination.

COD Studios are basically never going to see a GOTY nomination which leaves Playground Games and Coalition Games. is there any hope for MS in the near future or do they need to retool? It's not like these games are lighting up the charts either so if they arent winning awards and arent selling well, how can MS afford to keep these studios around?
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Indiana Jones launched last year. Yes I know about the cut off but recency bias is huge for awards shows, the vast majority of times theyve all long forgotten last years end of the year games.
 
Gameplay Gods Bless said:
Indiana Jones launched last year. Yes I know about the cut off but recency bias is huge for awards shows, the vast majority of times theyve all long forgotten last years end of the year games.
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KCD2 came out in Februrary, and Indy was nominated for Best Action Adventure Game, and Troy Baker's performance was nominated for Best Actor.

It didnt make it because its a mid game like all the rest.
 
JackedTortoise09 said:
Conveniently leaving out that Xbox published GOTY nominee Psychonauts 2 in 2021.
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Well you see....reasons

I double checked just now, it was published by Xbox, so not a situation similar to The Outer Worlds being published by Take Two's Private Division.

Buy Psychonauts 2 | Xbox

Combining quirky missions and mysterious conspiracies, Psychonauts 2 is a platform-adventure game with cinematic style and tons of customizable psychic powers.
www.xbox.com
 
harmonize said:
Doom and Indiana were both better than DS2, Geoff needs to get off of Kojima's nuts.
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Geoff has nothing to do with the nominations. He doesnt even get a vote. The judges are around 90 industry critics from around the world. might be over a 100 now.

Thats why there is such a big overlap between the overall goty of the year as tracked by GOTY websites and the VGA awards. It's the same publications giving out the awards. Not Geoff and his buddies who jerk off to Kojima.

Kojima also famously lost to FromSoft's Sekiro after winning Best Director at the 2019 VGAs. He lost both best director(studio at the time) and best game to Witcher 3 and CD Project back in 2015.

Doom and Indiana both have a lower metacritic than DS2. Im not a big fan of that game, but im also not buying the Geoff allegations. KCD2 has the lowest metacritic of all nominees and even thats at 88. well above both Indy and Doom. Makes sense since its the same critics voting at Geoff's show.

This page lists all the publications that make up the jury.

thegameawards.com

Voting Jury | The Game Awards

Meet the distinguished voting jury for The Game Awards
thegameawards.com thegameawards.com
 
Ofc 21 laughing reactions to OP because god forbid someone question the way the industry treats Microsoft.

Btw I wish I could laugh reaction to this reply myself to jump start the thing.
 
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Those aren't 6 "big games". In a weak year like 2024 Doom and Indiana Jones might have gotten a nomination, but not this year.
 
The games are mid at best and don't deserve to be GOTY, at the minute ive seen nothing but complaints about COD everywhere about the campaign, and TOW 2 did awful numbers on Steam, MS need to start making really good games in the future with the devs they bought or nothing will change
 
SlimySnake said:
DICE is just developers giving each other awards. It's like the oscars, only the critics dont get a say.

BAFTA is similar. it's just industry workers. Thats where the prestige comes in. It's manufactured as fuck. Any good award should take into account the critics media otherwise its just developers jerking each other off in an incestous ceremony.
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The critics system is flawed too. Look at Eurogamer giving Arc Raiders a 2/5, should they now decide if Arc Raiders gets nominated?

100 or so critics deciding nominations AND winners is the most flawed out of all the systems.

With the Oscar's, the Academy has over 5000 members do the nominations, and over 10k members and industry critics get to vote on the winners.

en.wikipedia.org

D.I.C.E. Awards - Wikipedia

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DICE awards are actually run by the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences, which is the officially recognized industry body, similar to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

Dice nominations get voted on by all 33k members.
 
I don't see anything on the list of games Xbox published that I would even consider for Game Of The Year. Some were innovative and fun, to play, it wasn't a basket full of utter garbage. But I don't see a single game on the list that had a "wow" factor and that I can't stop thinking about or playing. These are mostly serviceable titles. Some are very underwhelming sequels. DooM: The Dark Ages is by far the worst title in the franchise's history. And Call Of Duty; Black Ops 7 has been a complete disaster. Does anyone remember Avowed or South Of Midnight ? Those games had so little impact that I forgot that they even released. The Outer Worlds 2 does not seem to have yet found its stride. Indiana Jones And The Great Circle is a good take on its IP but it never seemed to connect with its audience and the gameplay is slow and tedious.

This just isn't a great list of titles for award season, so Xbox being completely passed over is hardly shocking.
 
South of Midnight is surprisingly an excellent game for me
I expect most of those who said is trash haven't tried the game
 
Ahhhh awards season. Where people let other people's opinions tell them what's good. Lead by a guy so far in Sonys pocket that he can manage to add any Sony game to the list, and even he couldn't get ghost of yotei in the runnings for this year, lol.

Plus someone who literally is in Kojimas games and friends with him. Yet people think these lists are legit.
 
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These were strong contenders, no doubt.
This year was simply yoked with too many good games.
Doom: TDA is probably the best of the latest Doom trilogy.
Outer Worlds 2 had great potential, but launched with both gameplay and graphics bugs.
But I guess none of those games felt innovative enough.
 
Indiana Jones came out in December of 2024 people, so according to their backwards rules it can not be nominated.

The Keighley Game Awards have a horrible precedent where they have the cutoff for nominees be like whatever Call of Duty's release is in early November, and any game in late November or December is ineligible for that years awards and the next years as well.
 
South of Midnight was not a "big" game. I liked that games style a lot but it was relatively small title.
 
Because Microsoft remains a consistently mediocre game developer and publisher.

They wouldn't understand quality if it hits them right in the face.
 
SlimySnake said:
DICE is just developers giving each other awards. It's like the oscars, only the critics dont get a say.

BAFTA is similar. it's just industry workers. Thats where the prestige comes in. It's manufactured as fuck. Any good award should take into account the critics media otherwise its just developers jerking each other off in an incestous ceremony.
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what critic's media? there are no legit critics in this industry, they've all gone. What we have now is 30 something year olds that grew up with real critics and journalists, but ultimately they are fans of games, platforms and are ultimately fanboys that grew up playing what they liked and now have youtube channels and pretend to people like us that they know about video games.

I have more experience in this field than these guys, why would i trust or listen to any of them?
 
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