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[Eddie-Griffin]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/n...e-is-a-cloud-version-not-native/1100-6510927/

"There will not be a native Xbox One version of the game," Microsoft said.

Turn 10's new Forza Motorsport game that was detailed during this week's Developer Direct event is not coming to Xbox One, as least not natively. The game will be playable on Xbox One, but it will be available as a streaming title through the cloud.

In a support page post, Microsoft said the new Forza Motorsport was built "from the ground up" to take advantage of the "full power and performance" of the Xbox Series X|S systems, not Xbox One.

"While there will not be a native Xbox One version of the game, Xbox One players can stream Forza Motorsport through Xbox Cloud Gaming included in Xbox Game Pass Ultimate," Microsoft said.

The new Forza Motorsport title will be available natively on Xbox Series X|S and PC. Like all other Microsoft first-party games, it will be available through Game Pass, too.

In terms of performance, Forza Motorsport players on Series X can expect a 4K/60fps experience, while Series S players are getting 1080p/60fps. Performance on PC will depend on a player's setup. The PC system requirements have not been announced.

Given the age of the Xbox One--it launched in 2013--it makes sense that Microsoft would be moving away from the platform these days, at least in terms of native support. This week's surprise-launch, Hi-Fi Rush, also did not have an Xbox One release. And native Xbox One releases for the new Fable and Avowed are supposedly not planned.

Additionally, marquee 2023 titles like Starfield and Redfall could be cloud versions, too. In a June 2021 blog post, Microsoft said those titles "require the speed, performance, and technology of the Xbox Series X|S," and thus may not come to Xbox One natively but instead release via the cloud.

Microsoft's cloud games are streamed on external servers and beamed to supported machines, so in this way, a console from 2013 can play a 2023 game with the same or similar quality. The major potential catch is that, because games are streamed, it requires a stable and consistent connection. Microsoft's cloud streaming platform is already up and running and allows players to stream games to any supported device, including the Xbox One, mobile phones, and tablets, among other devices.

Good to see that Microsoft is moving away from crossgen more and more. Having the ability to stream as fine, as long as the games aren't being developed for the Jaguar in mind anymore.

Hopefully this game comes out sooner than later, 2023 needs to be a good year.

 

[NickFire]

I want one of those tough choice memes for myself, with a bad reaction to mention of AAA games on cloud, or a good reaction to current gen only.

Actually, its not needed. Good reaction to current gen only wins.

 

[LordCBH]

I dig it!

 

[Freeza93]

leave it behind plssss

 

[Kvally]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/n...e-is-a-cloud-version-not-native/1100-6510927/


Good to see that Microsoft is moving away from crossgen more and more. Having the ability to stream as fine, as long as the games aren't being developed for the Jaguar in mind anymore.

Hopefully this game comes out sooner than later, 2023 needs to be a good year.

Kinda cool being able to support their older console that way.

 

[feynoob]

Bold to drop Xbox one.

 

[Lupin3]

Can't keep dragging the past with you forever.

 

[IntentionalPun]

So can you buy the game, and then cloud it for "free", or does this all require GPU anyways?

Sounds like it's GPU only for Xbox One users from the wording.

 

[Pelta88]

 

[ACESHIGH]

Cloud gaming it's better than Xbox one going at this point. I pñayed a plague tale and it looked amazing.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Good call. Xbox One gamers getting cloud service is good enough IMO. Gets to a point in gaming you got to move ahead. Even in PC gaming with all the specs support, you arent going to get many big name names supporting old ass OS and specs. Even the minimum specs call for Windows 10 for probably all new games.

 

[Freeza93]

Come on guys its time to move on from last gen.....

 

[X-Wing]

Considering they probably have metrics on how many gamers on Xbox One can use the service it's a safe bet for them. It's also a way of pushing the Xbox One owners that are not on Game Pass to subscribe to it (since the previous attempt by doubling the price of Live Gold failed).

 

[Tiamat2san]

Fuck yeah!
Bring on current gen only games .

 

[SpokkX]

Finally - i hope Sony gets the message soon too

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

....this will end.....well?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Finally - i hope Sony gets the message soon too

what massage?

 

[Jennings]

Xbox One X should be able to run Forza and HiFi Rush. Seems like they got screwed.

 

[ManaByte]

....this will end.....well?

It ends with 4K 60fps with RT in gameplay.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

It ends with 4K 60fps with RT in gameplay.

how much lag?

 

[DeepEnigma]

It ends with 4K 60fps with RT in gameplay.

YouTube "4K."

 

[ReBurn]

Bold to drop Xbox one.

It's time.

 

[Lyrical]

Cloud gaming isn’t there yet, at least as far as I’ve tried.

 

[Thabass]

Honestly, this is pretty ingenious. Make the game current gen only, but have a streamable version to play on legacy systems. You can still put it on Gamepass and allow legacy systems to play the new hotness. Pretty smart.

 

[Freeza93]

w

Honestly, this is pretty ingenious. Make the game current gen only, but have a streamable version to play on legacy systems. You can still put it on Gamepass and allow legacy systems to play the new hotness. Pretty smart.

Win win.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Xbox One X should be able to run Forza

?

 

[DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy]

 

[ManaByte]

Cloud gaming isn’t there yet, at least as far as I’ve tried.

XCloud can do 60fps.

 

[Jennings]

?

Thank you for donating some punctuation, but I already used some.

 

[NickFire]

I wonder why they didn't make this clear when those screenshots leaked last year. https://www.eurogamer.net/leaked-im...za-motorsport-is-coming-to-xbox-one-after-all

Any chance the lack of a release date is because they hoped for a last gen version previously, and finally gave up?

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

I wonder why they didn't make this clear when those screenshots leaked last year. https://www.eurogamer.net/leaked-im...za-motorsport-is-coming-to-xbox-one-after-all

Any chance the lack of a release date is because they hoped for a last gen version previously, and finally gave up?

But then there wouldn't be a delay if they gave up, lol

 

[Ozriel]

Xbox One X should be able to run Forza and HiFi Rush. Seems like they got screwed.

Not this Forza. CPU's below minimum spec

 

[j.k.2021]

Makes sense but Redfall has no business being next gen. only.

 

[Topher]

XCloud can do 60fps.

And still feels sluggish for me which is ok with some games, but I wouldn't want to play Forza on xCloud at this point.

 

[j.k.2021]

Bold to drop Xbox one.

All their upcoming games minus Minecraft legends are next gen. only.

 

[Thabass]

w

Win win.

I failed to mention that this will also not sacrifice quality.

 

[Ozriel]

I wonder why they didn't make this clear when those screenshots leaked last year. https://www.eurogamer.net/leaked-im...za-motorsport-is-coming-to-xbox-one-after-all

The game has only ever been announced for next gen xbox consoles.

Any chance the lack of a release date is because they hoped for a last gen version previously, and finally gave up?

If that were the case, they'd have a release date ready

 

[Topher]

I failed to mention that this will also not sacrifice quality.

I thought xCloud was 1080p.

 

[NickFire]

But then there wouldn't be a delay if they gave up, lol

That would depend on when they gave up.

Of course, technically we don't actually know that it's delayed. Seems less likely it will hit Spring with the ongoing silence, but it still might. Could even be a situation where the game is basically done, but the planned marketing materials need to be revised if they changed plans recently.

Anyway, I'm just deep in the rabbit hole of wondering why they didn't trumpet this to the heavens last year when people were speculating over leaks or on the day we learned GT was cross gen.

 

[JLB]

makes sense. This was going to be a next gen exclusive, so the fact that prev gen can play it somehow its a plus.

 

[octiny]

Good. Time to move on from last-gen.

 

[anothertech]

I wonder how long until they announce the same thing for series S.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Nintendo already does this with games that are too heavy to run on the Switch. Never tried a cloud version, but the concept absolutely works.

 

[Celcius]

Seems like it would be better to just not make it available for that platform than to make a cloud version

 

[MarkMe2525]

Cloud gaming isn’t there yet, at least as far as I’ve tried.

If your connection has minimal line noise, it's great. Up until recently, xcloud was a hit or miss experience. I called my isp and got the tech to look into my signal to noise ratio and it turned out to be sub par. They came out and ran new lines and I went from around 450Mbps to over 950Mbps with a packet loss of 0%. Latency went from mid 70's, down to 40 or below.

No joke, it's easy to forgot you're streaming a game. I can play fast twitch games like fps no problem now.

Edit: this may not be feasible if you live in an apartment where one node supports many users.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

That would depend on when they gave up.

Of course, technically we don't actually know that it's delayed. Seems less likely it will hit Spring with the ongoing silence, but it still might. Could even be a situation where the game is basically done, but the planned marketing materials need to be revised if they changed plans recently.

Anyway, I'm just deep in the rabbit hole of wondering why they didn't trumpet this to the heavens last year when people were speculating over leaks or on the day we learned GT was cross gen.

Well if it's coming out spring of this year, they need to get the promotes, retailer deals, and marketing started before late February to build hype. I remember March-April was the original frame that was going around so who knows that "might" still be a thing, though that would be them going back on them saying Red Fall would release first, so unless they do that it's probably going to be start of summer.

Makes sense too, given they need to improve X console stock. Not sure they can get that done in spring.

 

[NickFire]

Well if it's coming out spring of this year, they need to get the promotes, retailer deals, and marketing started before late February to build hype. I remember March-April was the original frame that was going around so who knows that "might" still be a thing, though that would be them going back on them saying Red Fall would release first, so unless they do that it's probably going to be start of summer.

Makes sense too, given they need to improve X console stock. Not sure they can get that done in spring.

I didn't know they officially said Redfall comes first. I'll stop trying to find ways that my March 2023 prediction might still be correct now.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

I didn't know they officially said Redfall comes first. I'll stop trying to find ways that my March 2023 prediction might still be correct now.

Yeah they said Starfield is after Redfall, https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/release-date-after-Redfall

But who knows, they might surprise us. Only issue with that is again, how long will it take them to produce enough consoles, primary the X? That's likely when they will have Starfield release date.

 

[remember_spinal]

I mean the install base of the xbox one is probably in the low 5 digits at this point

 

[NickFire]

Yeah they said Starfield is after Redfall, https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/release-date-after-Redfall

But who knows, they might surprise us. Only issue with that is again, how long will it take them to produce enough consoles, primary the X? That's likely when they will have Starfield release date.

Wait, why are you talking about Star Field? We are talking about Forza in this one. That's the one I've been thinking might still hit March.