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Microsoft Studios' creative director has some choice words about always-online
- Thread starter shinobi602
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Anyone that gets upset over something tweeted in a friendly exchange with Curry Thunder probably gets upset a lot.
Right. The two definitely aren't mutually exclusive (private conversation w/ friend, discussing the console); just defending/explaining the surprisingly common practice of bashing other people's views without actually mentioning them in your tweet, that's all
See, that is why I'm asking if anyone has considered this a bit of an overreaction. The anger over his anti-consumer BS stance is PERFECTLY FINE (IMO). It's total shit, I agree. But you guys know how the internet works, this guy is probably getting death threats and shit because of this too, and the personal attacks are unwarranted.
mohsinkhan
Member
Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but the Xbox Brand and Wal-Mart Supercenters are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where you can become successful by being polite and generous. If you screw someone over in America you bring Big Macs to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that Big Mac is repentance.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase the next generation Xbox home console, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move.
Microsoft, publicly apologize and cancel 'always online' for the next generation Xbox home console or you can kiss your business goodbye.
good enough?
I loled hard thanks man
lastflowers
Banned
This:
Reminded me of this:
Arrogant assholes on Twitter apparently like this pose/look.
what is this? Why would you even bring this up?
If you read the Kotaku article then you would realize that this is not how MS is implementing this.
With Durango you have to be connected to the internet at all times to play games or use applications, when you disconnect from the internet then you will be given a 3 minute window to keep playing offline. After those three minutes then a network troubleshooter pops up and your game or application is suspended.
Edit: Response to Bkilian
everyday math
Banned
People shouldn't really be worked up about the "friend" tweets anymore. That I agree with. But this defiantly should be a lesson to other employees about what not to do on social media.
Social media seems brings the worst out of people. And that can sadly cost you your job.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I think that, by holding their respective views, both of those guys in the pictures are arrogant assholes that lack empathy. I just found it to be a funny coincidence that they also happen to share a very similar look.
You're right that it has no bearing on the discussion though and was definitely inappropriate. I've gone back and edited it out.
Boss Man
Member
Also, I'll post again in case it gets overlooked:
You can have always-online games on a system that does not require always-online.
He mentioned PC. Diablo, SimCity.
If you want to have your games on the hard drive without switching discs, you can download them and accomplish the same thing. The only 'gain' here is that discs are meaningless beyond installation, so you can accomplish the same thing as above by buying a disc and installing instead of downloading and installing. Yay, the future.
Oh wow.
Roddslayer
Member
Despite the Kaz train gif, I'm really disappointed in the lack of Kaz's presence in this thread.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
156 pages? Can i get a summary?
everyday math
Banned
There's a summary I believe in the OP.
Hydrargyrus
Member
I don't know, but I wouldn't expect for MS to change all that has been planing during, at least, 2 years because Adam's Tweets and all the internet blowout...
Boss Man
Member
People don't like the idea of a system that is required to stay online. They really, really don't like it.
Arthur Gies is an idiot.
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MaulerX
Member
I'm not sure if we'll even reach requiring multiple discs for a single game on PS4/Durango since they both use Blu-ray anyway. Only games that go anywhere near the BD capacity limit are those with a ton of FMV and uncompressed assets.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Ah ok, Thanks.
GoofsterStud
Member
No.
Because he's a bonehead that pissed off the Internet. :/It just needs the Street Fighter 3 gif.
Too early to say. They would need lawyers to go over the work contracts.
everyday math
Banned
No. Not at all.
out0v0rder
Member
if even a single one of you guys buys this device i will rip off your head and shit down your throat
Welp. You've pissed off Duke Nukem.
I'm not certain if anyone in particularly is actually asking him to be fired. Rather, this kind of blunder is the sort of thing companies often fire people over. I think most people are just expecting him to be fired, not demanding he be fired.
No, it means absolutely nothing. It's a blanket PR statement any corp. will use if an employee does exactly what Sweet Billy did.
Boss Man
Member
I think the notion has more to do with disc switching between different games, which I think (and apparently you do too) is a pretty minor thing to be on about.
And again, you can accomplish the same exact thing by going digital. Only difference is buying a disc (which are now all required to be install then trash) vs. downloading data (while physical discs work as they do now) to do it. Both of them are apparently going to allow 'immediate' access to the game.
Well I hope he doesn't lose his job over this.
K, I havnt read all the pages so maybe this was brought up already.
Could this be a MS "any publicity is good publicity" thing?
Like get lots of people talking about the console before the announcement. Now tons of people will tune in to watch it. Then announce that there is no always online.
Try and steal any hype from PS4?
Just seams like such a weird move this early. I could see it after this console but not this gen.
Could this be a MS "any publicity is good publicity" thing?
Like get lots of people talking about the console before the announcement. Now tons of people will tune in to watch it. Then announce that there is no always online.
Try and steal any hype from PS4?
Just seams like such a weird move this early. I could see it after this console but not this gen.
This thread has had a damn fair share of people saying "he should be fired" and "I hope he gets fired."
UberTag
Member
In a perfect world, this thread and its impact on the global stage over the past 24 hours would be the capper to the GTTV documentary on NeoGAF.
Beermeister
Banned
And so have I. No 720 for me. DEAL WITH IT.
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
Kaz's get a second job comment, and about everything about Sony's 2006 E3 conference was harped on a whole lot. It was a lot of fun.
I was waiting till we got to have that kind of fun again for this generation switch, and it looks like we're finally having it. We still need Microsoft having an embarrassing E3 in order to completely match it.
On a hindsight, after catching up I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't moved beyond news spread. Although there seems to be some LOLs to be had in the form of Aegis stuff, I was hoping for a denial from MS but I guess that's not happening anytime soon.
Raitosaito
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You set the bar too high man.
dark_prinny
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fart town usa
Member
What a dumbass, lol.
People and twitter, sheesh.
If true, definitely skipping it.
People and twitter, sheesh.
If true, definitely skipping it.
Boss Man
Member
Pretty positive that refers to #dealwithit and "The place you live in sucks." While "we haven't announced anything." refers to always-online.
I don't think he's an arrogant asshole who lacks empathy. He's just a guy doing his job. It's no surprise that the consumer and the producer of a product will not always see eye to eyethat's not lacking in empathy or arrogance, that's capitalism. Frankly, I think an idea like that would be disastrous (I mean, how many people have broadband? Certainly in the US, you're cutting out a potentially large chunk of users), but they'll pay for that when the console bombs. If the product is shit, then it's up to the consumer to vote with their wallet.
Some people get personally offended when someone who works for a big company has some kind of opinion that differs from theirs and somehow think that should be a fireable offence.
The big thing about this story is of course "Someone in decent standing at MS is pretty open about thinking a console should be always online" to help feed the rumours that the Durango is always online. The guy's poor analogies and jokes with his friend are funny, but I really don't get the people who freaked out over them.