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[pswii60]

So, here's Adam Orth's LinkedIn profile:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

Interesting bit:

Lead Designer
Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC
August 2005 – February 2008 (2 years 7 months)Santa Monica
Responsible for all aspects of game design across multiple internal and external PlayStation titles as well as the creation of new IP for the studio. Reported directly to David Jaffe.

God of War III
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Twisted Metal Head: On Extra Twisted Edition
God of War II
Calling All Cars!
Heartland [Cancelled]

He's only been with Microsoft for just over a year. Working on... "Unannounced"... Whatever could it be?

 

[Speevy]

You're joking?

Yes, joking. I just thought it was funny that we were getting increasingly more bigger/more credible sources.

 

[Cheesemeister]

Someday, the DRM server will be taken down. Forget it.

 

[krypt0nian]

The Associated Press is picking this up too.

Which means this will be reported by the mainstream media.

Shitstorm doesn't even BEGIN to describe it.

OK now I said goddamn.

 

[Sorral]

Besides like... a router... um... is there any other piece of consumer electronics that would be as worthless as Nextbox without an internet connection?

I can still use my router to make a network between my computers, consoles, etc and stream/transfer files and so on. man

I just woke up what the hell goings on

Now the Associated Press is reporting it.

Linky?

 

[PaulExcellent]

My whole view point stems from the fact that I have a friend that routinely pirates his games. Gets them before they launch at retail. Said friend makes fun of me because and this is a direct quote "It's not my fault you're to stupid to figure out how to play burnt games" Fact of the matter is I don't play tons of games. Hell, I just picked up Fallout New Vegas on my PC on sale and I am having a blast with it. Haven't touched any other game in weeks! Companies are in this to make money. Always have been, always will be. A lot of you guys posting remind me of said friend. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, Game Devolpers are not in business to make friends. They are just trying to turn a profit. Pirates want to deny them that right, then they will have to recoup that money some other way. Here's another talking point. I think games should cost more than $59.99.

Anyway past my bed time.

I have NO idea what the hell this post has to do with anything. Go to bed, man.

 

[Casanova]

Let's just make our cars stop running if they aren't connected to the internet too, while we're at it.

I buy a car and I pay for gas and maintenance, therefore, I expect it to work if I keep up with those criteria.

So if I buy an Xbox and I pay for my electricity to power it and I take care of it, I expect it to work at all times.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

Sony VP of worldwide studios: Playstation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

 

[Speevy]

Guys, I was screwing around. Bad joke.

 

[Reiko]

Yes, joking. I just thought it was funny that we were getting increasingly more bigger/more credible sources.

I don't think you would have to. If MS doesn't respond it's going to gain national attention, especially for being anti consumer.

 

[Gorillaz]

wait the AP is on the story too? lol insane

 

[BIZ*TAKE]

Fuck you for accusing everyone here for being pirates. Seriously. Fuck you.

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

 

[storl026]

That was a totally undeserved bash of customers in small towns. My guess is he gets fired over this.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

The Associated Press is picking this up too.

Which means this will be reported by the mainstream media.

Shitstorm doesn't even BEGIN to describe it.

I'm sure heads will roll now.

 

[PaulExcellent]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

You... did you read the page?
Just checking.

 

[xxracerxx]

Seriously lol. Just read about it on the Verge and thought I'd check if we had a thread about it here. 30 fucking pages already Jesus

It originated here.

 

[krypt0nian]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

Wow this is going to go poorly for you.

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

Not liking the system side rumors for Durango, but I'm liking the games rumors. I 'll reserve judgement until an official reveal. Still not sure if always online rumors aren't just misunderstanding of a low power state thats also connected to wifi or online mandatory. ONly time will tell...

 

[Professor Beef]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

Or you can continue to bury your head in the sand. That's an option, too!

 

[Sorral]

Guys, I was screwing around. Bad joke.

Too late. You dun goofed. #dealwithit

 

[watership]

So, here's Adam Orth's LinkedIn profile:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

Interesting bit:

Lead Designer
Sony Computer Entertainment America LLC
August 2005 – February 2008 (2 years 7 months)Santa Monica
Responsible for all aspects of game design across multiple internal and external PlayStation titles as well as the creation of new IP for the studio. Reported directly to David Jaffe.


He's only been with Microsoft for just over a year. Working on... "Unannounced"... Whatever could it be?

That explains why Jaffe stood up for him here earlier then. They worked together for awhile.

 

[UberTag]

He's only been with Microsoft for just over a year. Working on... "Unannounced"... Whatever could it be?

Nice bit of sabotage he's pulled off here, I'd say.

 

[GoofsterStud]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

What's going to happen is both will get equal support. If PS4 Sells as many games, nobody will be dropping it. If PS4 sells more due to higher install base they will drop 720 support.

I think maybe you had a little to much 420.

 

[PaulExcellent]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Stop right there.
Don't even start this shit.

 

[1st Course]

So, here's Adam Orth's LinkedIn profile:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/adam-orth/44/354/b44

Interesting bit:



He's only been with Microsoft for just over a year. Working on... "Unannounced"... Whatever could it be?

 

[web01]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

If people do not buy the system with the always online DRM they wont be getting any support after the launch window money hatted games.

 

[Mxrz]

We are talking about a GAMING CONSOLE. it's not life or death. Read a book, smoke some hookah, pet a duck...

Or buy a console that isn't completely fucking stupid.

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

Yeah, all those announced ps4 multiplats must not be real or something. Darn.

 

[Professor Beef]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Is this one of those strawman tactics I've heard so much about?

EDIT: Welp, I think I have my answer.

 

[BIZ*TAKE]

Stop right there.
Don't even start this shit.

(;

The defense rests its case...

 

[zoukka]

Yep, I will never buy an always online hardware ever. I don't care if that dooms me to the dinosaur graveyard. There are already enough games made to date to keep me happy for the rest of my gaming life.

 

[gamma]

It originated here.

Yeah I noticed that too now. Crazy how it blew up so fast.

 

[Mermandala]

Penguins&PolarBears = Adam Orth?

was this ever sussed out by DetectiveGAF? either way his full post history is a shill-parade laugh riot.

 

[KarmaCow]

Stop right there.
Don't even start this shit.

No let him continue. Surely it will end well.

 

[xxracerxx]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Good lord.

I feel like you will be telling us "You wouldn't download a car!!"

 

[shinobi602]

Alright, almost 4 AM lol, off to bed.

Looking forward to see what villainy is cooked up in the morning.

 

[Speevy]

Too late. You dun goofed. #dealwithit

Well, the subject of this topic seems mostly concerned with this Microsoft guy acting like a horse's ass.

I don't think that qualifies as important national news.

 

[The Living Tribunal]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Dude, just stop for fuck's sake.

 

[Earthpainting]

I sadly enough had a conversation this morning with a colleague who was excited to have a console with "the most online". He was assured that his internet connection has never been unstable and even if it would drop a few times per year, he wouldn't mind too much. I hope it wasn't representative of the average gamer. If consumers are this lenient on the matter, I can see more console manufacturers and publishers adopting this with open arms.

 

[fabricated backlash]

That right there is absolute poison.

And the narrative keeps on rolling . . .

The perception: this is how Microsoft really feels about gamers. This gaffe is Romney-esque. The parallels are staggering, right down to the elitist detachment. Their latest strategic decisions around advertising on Xbox 360 and kinect helped to build this, btw.

If Sony were smart, they'd assemble an online services announcement ASAP. Why not? Their console is announced. The details will get lost in E3. It's a great way to counter-message against this GIFT they've been given.

Key message: We care about ALL gamers.

Low Hanging Fruit Sony. Grab a basket and go!!!

Care about gamers... do people still buy into this shit? I mean if you're 14 you don't know better, but come on.

 

[jamesinclair]

Besides like... a router... um... is there any other piece of consumer electronics that would be as worthless as Nextbox without an internet connection?

SimCity 5

But to be fair, its hard to tell the difference between when your internet is working and when its not.

 

[blackflag]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

Really dude?

 

[krypt0nian]

Penguins&PolarBears = Adam Orth?

was this ever sussed out by DetectiveGAF? either way his full post history is a shill-parade laugh riot.

I'd be curious what an IP check would reveal.

 

[Ouren]

Here you go you bastards.

 

[PaulExcellent]

(;

The defense rests its case...

Excuse me?
Would you care to explain what "evidence" you are providing?
Or are you just pulling rubbish out of your ass?
Because, if not, please, enlighten me.

 

[1st Course]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM


Take your pick.

BF4, Destiny, Diablo 3, Witcher 3, Theif, Watch_Dogs etc are all already confirmed for the PS4.

 

[Dreamgazer]

Seriously? People are saying gaf posters are similar to pirates by not supporting this? Well guess who is still going to suffer when the pirated bypasses the system?

Then there's the people who say the masses will buy it anyway...do you play games for games or do you play for sales and company profit? IF YOU WANT TO DEFEND THIS TELL ME HOW IT IS GOOD TO GAMERS NOT SOME CORPORATION.

 

[shinra-bansho]

I'm just saying.

Either they both have such a system implemented; or

Microsoft is going to have all the 3rd party support and Sony is going to have shitty 3rd party support like the Wii U; or

Neither is going to have online DRM

Take your pick.

Yeah, no third party support. No Thief 4. No Diablo 3. No Destiny. No Battlefield 4. No Witcher 3. No Final Fantasy. No Watch_Dogs. No Assassin's Creed IV. That's surely what's happening.

It's entirely impossible for Microsoft to make a decision that they think will benefit them that people don't like. It's not like they charge for access to the online portion of your games. Or they rolled out a product with fundamental flaws that resulted in unacceptable failure rates.

 

[SolarPowered]

Have you ever pirated ANYTHING?

You are headed for stormy waters, mate.

 

[BIZ*TAKE]

No let him continue. Surely it will end well.

I know my opinion is not the most 'popular' one, but it is just an OpFor.

Cheers, gentleman.

 

[RetroStu]

That Adam guy sounds like a bit of a douche.