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Microsoft Surface Pro 3 Announced (12", 3:2 aspect ratio, new stand)
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flaxknuckles
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Woah, I didn't know remastered San Andreas was in the Windows store.
Everything was actually super smooth for me until I installed all those updates. Making the love affair with this thing a little sour.
I actually like it a lot. I think the keyboard, touchpad and everything is fine. People bitch about windows 8 but it's actually pretty good for the surface. When i am chillin in tablet mode I tend to use the metro apps. When I want to be productive I go to the desktop and run productivity software. Transition between is fast since the windows key goes right to metro, and win+d goes right to the desktop (like in all windows versions).
I don't have any pen problems. Downloaded sketchbook and was doodling just fine. Entered one note and got used to handwriting on this thing....pretty good once you get used to the sensitivity
But man, it lost its polish once I did these updates. Now it's freezing and becoming unresponsive once in awhile without me doing much besides running Firefox. This is actually the kind of thing I was worried about with windows...updates or installing certain software can often fuck shit up across the board. Installing an app or update for ipad would never do anything like this... Especially after 3 days of release!
Will keep my eye on this. 30 day return policy. I hope I don't have to return it do to software bugs and shit, cuz it's a pretty damn sleek device. But a brand new flagship device like this should be smooth as butter. If there are hitches now, things aren't lookin good when there are serious windows updates in the future
I actually like it a lot. I think the keyboard, touchpad and everything is fine. People bitch about windows 8 but it's actually pretty good for the surface. When i am chillin in tablet mode I tend to use the metro apps. When I want to be productive I go to the desktop and run productivity software. Transition between is fast since the windows key goes right to metro, and win+d goes right to the desktop (like in all windows versions).
I don't have any pen problems. Downloaded sketchbook and was doodling just fine. Entered one note and got used to handwriting on this thing....pretty good once you get used to the sensitivity
But man, it lost its polish once I did these updates. Now it's freezing and becoming unresponsive once in awhile without me doing much besides running Firefox. This is actually the kind of thing I was worried about with windows...updates or installing certain software can often fuck shit up across the board. Installing an app or update for ipad would never do anything like this... Especially after 3 days of release!
Will keep my eye on this. 30 day return policy. I hope I don't have to return it do to software bugs and shit, cuz it's a pretty damn sleek device. But a brand new flagship device like this should be smooth as butter. If there are hitches now, things aren't lookin good when there are serious windows updates in the future
You do. It attaches quite nicely to the gap on the cover. It is perfect for it actually.
edit: (excuse the terrible phone pic) This is what I mean
http://imgur.com/BR04zdD
What do you mean by no buttons? The left and right click are mechanical buttons if that's what you mean.
I have a Surface Pro 2 and I'm pretty happy with the Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse - http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/sculpt-comfort-mouse
I never liked any of their weird arc/curved mice things
I never liked any of their weird arc/curved mice things
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I wonder if I could pick one of these up, use it for work and claim it as a tax deduction in the coming financial year.
Will have to ask an accountant or something how that shit all works.
Will have to ask an accountant or something how that shit all works.
Robobandit
Member
Sounds like most of your complaints are about windows 8.1 rather than the device itself. (Outside of the complaints about the keyboard and trackpad)
If you're used to a mac (which if I remember correctly from earlier in the thread, you have a macbook air that you love) and you moved to a Surface your complaints make a lot more sense. Windows 8 is a jarring experience, particularly to people who don't spend most of their time in windows. The trackpad on the new typecover is far superior than the one on the previous 2 surface pro models, but it still doesn't come close to the macbook air's trackpad. I think Microsoft was foolish to make that comparison, because there are many ways in which the Air is a superior machine.
Hopefully by the time Windows 9 comes out they'll have streamlined the experience a bit more than it currently is, because I know that a lot of people have trouble with windows 8 and hate using it.
Yeah, I definitely do believe that my time with a MacBook Air for the past few years makes the transition to Windows a jarring and bitter experience. Regardless, I'm still trying to give it all a fighting chance. So what's the go-to drawing app/program that utilizes the ntrig's potential?
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
I do think there are some existing issues with these things that don't seem to have been addressed (still) - the Wifi issues have been rampant since the SP1, the Type Covers are riddled with bugs registering ctrl/alt/shift etc as being held down when they aren't (causing problems with Creative Suite and keyboard shortcuts). The "Metro" style UI grafted onto desktop Win8 is still super jarring - and stuff like not allowing fullscreen Metro IE unless it's set as the default browser is just puzzling and downright annoying. It isn't polished enough for what they're trying to achieve (yet), IMO.
There is a lot to like, and I've had a lot of goodwill built up by this product over the last few months of owning it, but i'm a little sour on it now because after those niggles, mine totally packed it in last week and I had to ship it off to MS. Thank god I use a daily backup service.
They were supposed to be keeping me updated with what's going on with it but its been over 5 days and I haven't heard a peep. Their 'status' tool online just says 'in progress' which isn't helpful at all.
I mean, failures happen, but I guess I'm just used to Apple's excellent and super fast service/swapovers. Microsoft market this thing as a 'Pro' device then expect professionals to wait upwards of a week for a replacement when it breaks. Pretty poor. I'm having to use my bf's shitty HP laptop in the meantime.
While I love the small form factor of the SP and the Wacom integration, part of me is regretting moving over from my MBP now. I doubt I'd go with a Surface again - the support isn't good enough if something goes wrong.
killer rin
Member
oops wrong thread
i3 and i7 versions coming (to US) a month early.
http://www.wpcentral.com/surface-pro-3-core-i7-and-i3-arriving-august-1st
http://www.wpcentral.com/surface-pro-3-core-i7-and-i3-arriving-august-1st
Same boat.
Although "Windows 9" is going to be the main driver of a big jump and that applies to all Surface Pros.
Brilliant as always.
Comparison pic is beautiful.
Yeah. Seriously. It's great now and no more wife issues.
Aha did you do to fix it?
The link to winsupersite like ten posts up is the fix.
Didn't know OS X extends the idle battery life quite significantly compared to Win8. Certainly an awesome review. I wonder if Microsoft will come out and acknowledge the performance drops due to throttling. I also wonder if Microsoft has closing the duration gap from wake as one of their main agendas moving forward.
Edit: I just realized his SP3 looks like a white version. What's up with that?
Finally a review worth reading.
Haloid1177
Banned
Thinking about picking up the 256 GB SP3 after work today. Had the first Pro since Day 1 and kinda want the new one for next semester. Was gonna wait for the i7 but can't justify the cost to myself.
It seems to me that the new form factor is just begging for the next gen chip (Broadwell) to be put in it. Performance seems to have taken a hit from the SP2 due to less space available for cooling, but should leap ahead again in all categories with the next upgrade.
I predict there will be a refresh of the SP3 at this Christmas, and become one of the first devices with Broadwell.
With 3 versions of SP in 16 or so months, I think it's nearly certain that we'll see a refresh this winter. I honestly expect the next version to perfect. MS is listening and responding to complaints pretty well so far when it comes to SP.
LukasTaves
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What an amazing read. Other "tech" blogs should read this and be ashamed of themselves.
Not expecting perfection, but expecting "good enough" on the next revision.
For perfection, they've still got a ways to go to reach the following targets of what I would consider perfect:
- Weighs less than 1 pound
- Actually fanless (no vents), but still high performance
- 12hr battery (on heavy use)
- USB charging as an option (in addition to quicker powerbrick charging)
- No lag in waking up (Anandtech reports 1.3 seconds of lag)
- <10ms pen latency (currently 75ms)
- Back to 1024 levels of pen pressure
- At least 1 more USB port (maybe an extra microUSB 3.1 port at least)
- A solid keyboard attachment option (that doubles as extended 24hr battery)
- Built-in GPS and LTE option (make it a fully independent device)
Those are probably 5+ revisions away (if ever).
Cheetos is Pretty Awesome
Member
God, that $650 trade-in offer for the Macbook Air is pretty tempting. I have a 2010 one I want to dump, but it really sucks that the base i3 model only has 64GB. Been spoiled as my Air has 256gb of space.
An extra USB port, and no lag in waking up are two of my most waited features. but lets be realistic, a 12hr battery on heavy use means like 20+ hours on normal, light use, no one is reaching that level in the coming years, especially because we demand lighter devices and batteries are one of the heaviest components of a tablet/pc
Lone_Prodigy
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The kicker is "up to". You may need a 2013 MBA to get $650.
I think if it's still working you'll be better off selling your MBA locally or even eBay.
nhlducks35
Member
I wish it told you upfront what you would get. I'd rather not drive 20 miles just to be told I might only get $500 or less for my 2012 model.
I don't think you should expect any full PC to get built-in mobile broadband any time soon. Certifying Windows RT devices was difficult enough since mobile operators are (rightfully) paranoid about rogue services using too much bandwidth, but a fully x86 device? Probably never going to happen any time in the next few years.
Internet sharing FTW
Internet sharing FTW
I don't think so. Best I've seen is PCs coming with a USB dongle or something.
It's not just the complexities of certification, it's also the simple fact that it's far more expensive to add a mobile broadband chip to a laptop than it is to get an integrated SOC that already has mobile broadband.
It's not just the complexities of certification, it's also the simple fact that it's far more expensive to add a mobile broadband chip to a laptop than it is to get an integrated SOC that already has mobile broadband.
Yeah I wasn't being realistic, I was being idealistic on a potential perfect device.
A revolution in battery tech can't come soon enough. I've heard of plenty of reports of alternative battery techs over the years, none of which has seen the light of day.
That said, kudos to MS for what they've already achieved with the SP3. It is almost shocking how much thinner and lighter it is compared to the original, in only 16 months.
Since my online order isn't shipping anytime soon apparently, I just decided to buy it locally. Ordered a 256 gig online. Go, pick it up, get home, and set it up. Awesome... until I realized that they gave me the 128 gig version :\ I hope they don't give me any grief.
Ive never used rdio before and im finding it to be pretty decent.
To be honest, I grew to quite like Beats music. Doubtful we'll see a W8 app now that Apple's bought em...
In the meantime I got the Sonos desktop app since theres no mobile Windows app, so hopefully thats in the pipeline at some point in the future. I guess Ill install the Spotify program as well...
As far as video apps, the only one im missing is the crunchyroll app, but since they have a WP app, hopefully an 8 one is in the works, either way, the site itself works fine.