People are just different and are put off by different things. The mere presence of the loot boxes makes sure I will never buy this game. I go to single player, story driven experiences to inhabit and get lost in a cool world and the first time I saw even a UI element of a loot box I would immediately be taken out of the game and not want to play anymore. And it's fine, there are plenty of other games for me. For now at least.
Middle-earth: Shadow of War - Review thread
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People are just different and are put off by different things. The mere presence of the loot boxes makes sure I will never buy this game. I go to single player, story driven experiences to inhabit and get lost in a cool world and the first time I saw even a UI element of a loot box I would immediately be taken out of the game and not want to play anymore. And it's fine, there are plenty of other games for me. For now at least.
There was no free press kit sent my way. I earned Gold through normal play and opened quite a few loot boxes during my review. They're in your face about it but it's all stuff you can earn through normal play. The feedback loop is fine and you're constantly gaining new orcs and loot without having to worry about paying to win.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Not a single one of those games is out except for Destiny 2, and won't be out for weeks and months.
Had no idea this was out next week, nor did I know the embargo would drop so early. That's refreshing to see honestly.
I really dig the GI team, but it's hard to take that high score seriously when they just had Mordor as their cover story
Nice to see it's scoring well though. Looks like it'll be worth the $35 bucks I paid for it on CDkeys
I really dig the GI team, but it's hard to take that high score seriously when they just had Mordor as their cover story
Nice to see it's scoring well though. Looks like it'll be worth the $35 bucks I paid for it on CDkeys
Great review!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
looking good, loved the first game and even got my 15 minutes of internet fame from it.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Yeah I watched IGN's and Games Radar's review and it's looking good indeed. GR actually said there is a lot to do, fun stuff at that and you can definitely get distracted in these great lush looking environments. I now wonder why that other site said the exact opposite. Ah well.
I'm not getting the game right now though, plenty to finish left, I wanna wait for One X and I still need to finish the first one. IGN also said to just ignore the microtransactions because basically you are paying to make the game less fun. So that's interesting.
2blackcats
Member
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah I'll probably play on Nemesis/Hard mode.
Shadow of War |OT| Two Rings to Rule Them All
No. Elemental attacks play a much bigger part and higher rank orcs can Adapt and change their immunities in the middle of Battle.
ditto. Will pick this up as the inevitable GOTY edition though. Going back to school soon and I don't have time for it.
There are a ton of games coming out in the near future though so its not an odd thing to say. We're getting into the Holiday season and in the next few weeks we've got Super Mario Odyssey, Wolfensetin the New Colossus, The Evil Within 2 and so on.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
can anyone tell me if it has a hard mode?
LEITZSABER
Member
2blackcats
Member
It does.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
neat!
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Anything to keep the "Us Gamers" narrative, right?
So much this. Got the first one full year edition for 9.99, will be doing the same for this one.
What the fuck are you even talking about?
wesleyshark
Banned
New game. Same freak out.
Soon there'll be another game with MTs and the outrage will move to that one.
Bill R Boggess
Member
I dont have a problem with discussion but Id venture to state that the vitriolic comments that flood in anytime a Mordor thread emerges has graduated well past that point.
Again, this was a review thread and almost immediately, you had the same arguments by many of the same people not only attacking the quality of the game DESPITE the positive reviews but also claiming reviewers were paid off, etc., along with people making baseless claims about how this game was supposedly forged AROUND the loot box system. (A theory which has been debunked by those who have played it)
I agree these issues deserve discussion and I understand the inclusion of loot boxes infuriates some people I dont much care for it myself but I would also posit that at some point, the issue has been addressed and exhaustively argued and some of us who are looking forward to this game would appreciate at least one thread that isnt overtaken by the loot issue.
Just my two cents anyway.
And the New Yorker who wants to throw fists in the streets to defend a video game is crazier than any of those people.
So I read a couple of them, both the high scoring ones and the more middling ones.
The shelob thing gets mentioned in some, and how they take some freedoms... I personally couldn't care less as I don't know much about the lore anyway, and as long as it's executed well.
The open world gets praised for being bigger and more diverse, but maybe looks a bit dated according to some, compared to the first one?
The combat and the deeper siege mechanics gets the most praise so far.
The nemesis system and the variety found among the different orcs also seems positive, while more central characters to the plot don't get as much attention
RPG mechanics or systems can initially feel overwhelming as there is a lot going on.
And the lootbox microtransactions are mentioned a lot, some say that it never felt intrusive or in the way, but highly optional, and something that feels tacked on.
My moral compass has somewhat taken a hit on this matter. Some time ago I was ok with games like Halo 5 and Overwatch doing it because it financed the free dlc model, which was really beneficial for the players. But then with Halo wars 2, they introduced them even though the dlc was paid, and they are present in Destiny 2 as well. I don't feel as though that they are a big part of the aforementioned games, but more minor optional things. To be clear though, I have not spend a single dime on any of these microtransactions where they don't serve a greater purpose.
So far I am intrigued by what I've read, but I will ultimately wait a bit, mainly because I want to know how AC:Origins fares as well.
Edit: Also These reviews aren't that good in helping me to the judge visual and technical quality, hopefully DF covers that aspect soon.
The shelob thing gets mentioned in some, and how they take some freedoms... I personally couldn't care less as I don't know much about the lore anyway, and as long as it's executed well.
The open world gets praised for being bigger and more diverse, but maybe looks a bit dated according to some, compared to the first one?
The combat and the deeper siege mechanics gets the most praise so far.
The nemesis system and the variety found among the different orcs also seems positive, while more central characters to the plot don't get as much attention
RPG mechanics or systems can initially feel overwhelming as there is a lot going on.
And the lootbox microtransactions are mentioned a lot, some say that it never felt intrusive or in the way, but highly optional, and something that feels tacked on.
My moral compass has somewhat taken a hit on this matter. Some time ago I was ok with games like Halo 5 and Overwatch doing it because it financed the free dlc model, which was really beneficial for the players. But then with Halo wars 2, they introduced them even though the dlc was paid, and they are present in Destiny 2 as well. I don't feel as though that they are a big part of the aforementioned games, but more minor optional things. To be clear though, I have not spend a single dime on any of these microtransactions where they don't serve a greater purpose.
So far I am intrigued by what I've read, but I will ultimately wait a bit, mainly because I want to know how AC:Origins fares as well.
Edit: Also These reviews aren't that good in helping me to the judge visual and technical quality, hopefully DF covers that aspect soon.
Bill R Boggess
Member
He's talking about his ass, which is where he pulled out that accusation.
Solidsoul
Banned
Am I the only one who thinks a Lord of the Rings game where the weakest part of the experience is the story is a complete travesty? The last thing a game set in this universe should have is a poor story. I cant wait till the shadow games are done and we can get a proper game that actually respects the material.
NullPointer
Member
I haven't done any of those things.
Could you elaborate on how many loot boxes have you opened and how many gameplay hours it took you to collect gold for it?
ScaryShark
Banned
Actually reading the very thing you are commenting on sure is difficult.
The first game didn't have a good story either. The Shadow games are basically if a corporate executive from the 90s was given carte blanche to make LOTR into a Saturday morning cartoon in hopes of selling a line of toys.
False Witness
Member
Horizon was a lootbox fest... You didn't have to pay for them in the same way that you don't have to pay for them in this game. Of course, SoW does give you the option.
Damn near every quest reward involved a loot box of some sort in H:ZD.
Maximus P
Member
I somehow don't think RDR2 will have the same people lining up to express that they're refusing to buy the game when it inevitably has a MT filled online mode.
Bill R Boggess
Member
wesleyshark
Banned
WheelHoss1
Member
The story won't be good because Ron has been dead for over 50 years. If you want to read a great story read the book
The "story" for me will be moving through the world, exploring Ithilien and the Dead Marshes, and beating shit up
I mean I can't remember a thing about the story in the first game and I loved it
The "story" for me will be moving through the world, exploring Ithilien and the Dead Marshes, and beating shit up
I mean I can't remember a thing about the story in the first game and I loved it
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Don't let a single Shadow of War thread slide eh. Make sure you keep posting in every one about how much you hate it.
Bits N Pieces
Member
This game, Forza 7 and Cuphead are going to keep me busy for a long long time.
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EDIT: Bring on the loot boxes
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EDIT: Bring on the loot boxes
Well you're technically right.
So this is a case of a dev balancing the game well without the MTs?
I can't believe that because WB... But good if true.
Will wait for gaf impressions.
CaptainSmirnov
Member
Anyone talk about PC performance anywhere? Wanna pull the trigger on cdkeys before the price potentially goes up
2blackcats
Member
I don't know, story was terrible in the first game but it was still great.
I thought the movies were pretty terrible though and I haven't read the books in a couple of decades.
All I got on my phone, but yeah I've never been there.
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So, all the flaws of the previous games + no major improvements + lootboxes + Shelob boobies? No thanks.
Yikes, that sounds particularly awful.
lol, no one cares about the shite story in this game, and Gamespot showed the end mission because of how grindy and badly designed it is.
Wut? I haven't grinded in a JRPG since the 8-bit era.
Pfft hahaha come on. Grow up.
That's... quite the disingenuous way to describe Horizon's quest rewards, lmao. You do realize that in gaming terminology, "loot box" doesn't mean "literally just a box with some loot in it", right?
Oh sweet, there is difficulty this time around? Thank god, after upgrading a bit in the first one it was a snoozefest.
Well they did turn massive trilogy into three regular-ish length movies. While being good movies it was destined to butcher story of the books somewhat as they had to cut out quite a bit stuff. World building especially suffered.
Then they did opposite for Hobbit. Took one small book and turned into three regular length movies. Over extending narrative and making up shit just to fill time.
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