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Midway's New Rush
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TheUnknownForce
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Bastards, give GameCube a dose. You had every Rush game on the N64, yet don't even put the new one on the GC. Sucks. Even if they don't support GC a lot (MK: D still apparently and Treasures 2), they should at least port it to GC.
That out of the way, I can see why they changed it to LA. They have done SF several times already. I just hope they have a stunt section like the previous games and not go for all out realism, which I am worried about.
That out of the way, I can see why they changed it to LA. They have done SF several times already. I just hope they have a stunt section like the previous games and not go for all out realism, which I am worried about.
sonycowboy
Member
And so continues Midway's resurgence.
[looks at sales of The Suffering & Psi-Ops]
Hopefully, Joe Public will actually notice one of these days.
[looks at sales of The Suffering & Psi-Ops]
Hopefully, Joe Public will actually notice one of these days.
SolidSnakex
Member
Didn't The Suffering put up some pretty decent numbers? I know Psi Ops didn't sell well, but I remember The Suffering ranking pretty high on PS2 and Xbox charts for a few months.
As for RUSH...Sold! Make it compatible wiht the FF wheel though.
As for RUSH...Sold! Make it compatible wiht the FF wheel though.
sonycowboy
Member
SolidSnakex said:
Unforunately, they waited for the market to be completely saturated with street racers.
NFSU
Burnout
SRS
Midnight Club
Juiced
Flatout
Test Drive
Crash N Burn
Fast & The Furious
SolidSnakex
Member
Well it's not coming out till next year, which looks empty for racers. Plus there's really nothing like RUSH, these arcade racers are nice. But online RUSH in stunt mode...DROOL! 
Catchpenny
Member
Ugh. Please keep the street racing car mod trend out of Rush, thanks.
The Faceless Master
Member
if only it were a sequel to 2049...
LA has a couple decent locations: PCH, Malibu Canyon Road, that mess they call Downtown LA.Yusaku said:
I have a feeling that San Fransisco was dropped from in favor of LA because the gameplay will be grossly different from previous Rush games. This way, they can keep the "Rush" name but tell the fans to pound sand and that it was never suppose to be like SF Rush.
Dammit! No 2049 sequel and no GameCube version!
No GameCube means I probably won't buy it until later.
Not in the future means no wings means no stunt mode. I hope they don't try to make it compete with PGR, SRS and NFSU, because there's too many already. Just make it an over-the-top arcade-ish racing game filled with shortcuts everywhere.
No GameCube means I probably won't buy it until later.
Not in the future means no wings means no stunt mode. I hope they don't try to make it compete with PGR, SRS and NFSU, because there's too many already. Just make it an over-the-top arcade-ish racing game filled with shortcuts everywhere.
TekunoRobby
Tag of Excellence
Am I crazy or was that easily one of the best racers of the year when it was released. I remember spending a ton of hours playing that game.The Faceless Master said:
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I know it's to be expected and everything like that, but why the immediate no-GC-port bashing? Haven't you noticed that the GC eats third-party products like a bat eats flies? Especially non-brand-name racers?
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All right, I'm sorry. It's a brand name in that Midway has a trademark on it.xsarien said:
fenekku-gitsune said:
Harsh.
I loves me a good Rush game. The original took valuable laundry money from me in college, and I'm convinced that 2049 was the reason I lived primarily off of Ramen senior year. (Who has time to actually cook when there are stunt courses to be played?)
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I'm sorry if it came off as prickery. I simply mean that Rush, while a big hit on the N64, will likely have an uphill battle ahead for the hearts and minds of modern gamers, what with all the racing competition nowadays. What's more, that situation would be even more difficult if Rush was coming to the GameCube, a system where the racing genre (outside of Nintendo's character racers) has not historically been popular.
fenekku-gitsune said:
Well, that's a bit of a catch-22. (I'd probably wind up with the PS2 version of the game, so the GCN port argument isn't even at issue here.) There haven't been what I'd call genuine attempts at putting racing games on the Gamecube, so there's nothing really out there to prove that point beyond a few token lessons learned from F-Zero and the late ports of Burnout 1 and 2.
I was initially disappointed when I clicked on this thread and saw that my beloved Rush series has fallen into the "custom street racer" trend. But after watching the trailer, I'm intrigued. Ignoring the fact that "Tipsy" has been dead for a good two months now, the game actually looks like it will have that over-the-top, arcadey Rush feel.
TheUnknownForce
Member
Based on the movie and notes that I saw not recently, I see a bad future for Rush. Midway probably wanted to make a Street Racer game, saw Rush unused, and decided to use the brand name to get series fans to jump inmmediatly. I mean, in SF Rush, you could do anything with your car, almost impossible stuff to do in real life (my brother and I spent hours just flying off of the simple bumps in the terrain). This game will probably be more like Midnight Club than Rush. At least, that's what I think.
By extension, why then bother with XBox, where outside the launch PGR1 racers seem to have an equally hopeless time performing? RSC1-2, BurnOut 1-2, MotoGP 1-2, NFSU, PGR2, Midnight Club 2, Colin McRae 3-04, Group S, auto modellista, Racing Evolution, Quantum Redshift, Sega GT 2002/Online... racers seem to do just as bad on XBox as GameCube in general.fenekku-gitsune said:
SolidSnakex
Member
What's really so bad about what they said about this game? It seems like they're just adding more depth to it. It's still going to have the crazy jumps and shortcuts, but you're going to have added things to it. At this point with racers, it's becoming expected that you can tune your car, just like it's expected that racers should be online now.
I'll never understand peoples hatred toward customization in racers, which only adds to the gameplay and does nothing to take away from it.
"By extension, why then bother with XBox, where outside the launch PGR1 racers seem to have an equally hopeless time performing?"
Because its going to be online, so it only makes sense to put it on the Xbox also.
I'll never understand peoples hatred toward customization in racers, which only adds to the gameplay and does nothing to take away from it.
"By extension, why then bother with XBox, where outside the launch PGR1 racers seem to have an equally hopeless time performing?"
Because its going to be online, so it only makes sense to put it on the Xbox also.
Unless the main focus of the game is online, that's no excuse to keep it off the GameCube.SolidSnakex said:
I normally try not to be one of those people who makes a big fit everytime a game is announced for PS2 and Xbox but not GC, but Jarrod's right: most racing games don't sell particularly better on the Xbox than they do on the GC. In fact, given that Rush games are traditionally very arcadey (although who can say for this new game), I would think the GC might even be a halfway decent fit for the game.
SolidSnakex
Member
"Unless the main focus of the game is online, that's no excuse to keep it off the GameCube. "
It's good enough reason for them though. Both Godzilla and Burnout 3 aren't on the GC because of online features.
It's good enough reason for them though. Both Godzilla and Burnout 3 aren't on the GC because of online features.
Schmo Florez
Member
rush 2049 battle mode crapped over any other car combat game...period.
SolidSnakex said:
Considering the nascent nature of online gaming, I have serious doubts that "Oh, we don't have any APIs for the GCN network adapter" is the dealbreaker with Nintendo versions of games, or the decision not to make them.
Ponder this:
A PS2 version is the obvious thing to make, an XBox version is easy to make. The Gamecube's stuck in the middle of that equation.
SolidSnakex
Member
xsarien said:
Can you think of any other reasons why Godzilla and Burnout aren't on the GC? The original Godzilla sold better on the GC than the Xbox yet there's no GC version this time around. Burnout 1 sold best on the GC and Burnout 2 sold best on hte Xbox, yet once again there's no GC version of the 3rd game. What's the big difference in the 3rd game (and 2nd game for Godzilla)? Online play. While it might be new for console games, some developers are taking it more sriously than others, those are the ones that are ignoring the GC because of the way Nintendo's handeled the online aspect.
Market perception. Godzilla STE started development at a time when GC was looking shaky performance wise (last year, pre-price drop) and Atari was killing various GC projects (DBZ B2, Driv3r, etc). Since then things have turned around though, and we may get a GC port of Godzilla after the fact (just like how XBox got the original later on). And with EA's recent buyout of Criterion, I wouldn't be surprised if BO3 followed in MKD's footsteps with a GC port next year either... despite Ward's apparent Nintendo disdain.SolidSnakex said:
Christoff Yurievich
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DarienA said:
I think it is this Tuesday, but the lack of screenshots/reviews/general hype leads me to believe it doesn't exist anymore.
that's too bad, because Hydro Thunder and Rush 2049 are the only reasons my DC is still running.Buffy4ever
Banned
I think the new Rush game will come to the GC a year after the other versions just like Mortal Kombat Deception.
First off, fuck the GC right now.
They are completely screwing up the Rush franchise, from the setting to the playstyle.
I don't need a fart pipe for my car, or Type R stickers, or neon undercarriage lights. I need to get airborne for over thirty seconds and land on top of a skyscraper. I need to get up on two wheels and drive tilted as long as I can hold it. I need to hit a nearly invisible bump and fly/shortcut over half the course. That's Rush, not some 2F2F ripoff street racing clone.
And I'm fucking sick of driving around LA. LA is not that fucking interesting, and it is not the only city in the fucking US. No, dammit, NY shouldn't be a second choice either. I want scenery, not endless plam trees and flat roads, or badly textured cracked asphalt and steam from the sewers.
Pre-emptive fuck you to Midway for screwing Rush like this.
They are completely screwing up the Rush franchise, from the setting to the playstyle.
I don't need a fart pipe for my car, or Type R stickers, or neon undercarriage lights. I need to get airborne for over thirty seconds and land on top of a skyscraper. I need to get up on two wheels and drive tilted as long as I can hold it. I need to hit a nearly invisible bump and fly/shortcut over half the course. That's Rush, not some 2F2F ripoff street racing clone.
And I'm fucking sick of driving around LA. LA is not that fucking interesting, and it is not the only city in the fucking US. No, dammit, NY shouldn't be a second choice either. I want scenery, not endless plam trees and flat roads, or badly textured cracked asphalt and steam from the sewers.
Pre-emptive fuck you to Midway for screwing Rush like this.
bobbyconover
Member
It's not really surprising that this looks shitty, considering Midway Games West (aka Atari Games) is long gone. RUSH without Atari Games is destined to be crap.