ErasureAcer
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I'm Mitch McConnell and I don't critique the President(Trump).
Military officials got Trump ok on Yemen raid by saying Obama wouldn't have done it
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I'm Mitch McConnell and I don't critique the President(Trump).
Ghostshark
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So they used the South Park approach in actual real life? No wonder they decided to drop mocking him, everything they had regarding Trump in the season is coming true.
ProfessorLobo
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Why does everyone love Mattis again?
I really doubt Mattis would be so willing to put his troops in harms way like this. Even Mccain was saying that Mattis and then wouldn't have gone forward unless everything was in place. And remember it is Donald Trump who initiates this. No way he didn't push for this before the others. This is someone who told his generals to defeat ISIS in a month, to restart nuclear weapons development in the US, all that shit about NATO and defense of SK, Japan and Taiwan. This is a President who is out of his depth.
Frozenprince
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I refuse to believe Mattis would okay an op like this. No way in hell. This is a man who would die for his marines.
uncredited male
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I actually hate the people who said this to Trump more than him now.
This sounds like a planned out white house leak to try and shift blame. This runs counter to everything in Mattis's career etc.
On top of that the story seems to be changing. It was reported before the reason Obama never pulled the trigger is they had a serious lack of on the ground intel and were waiting for more in depth intel to be acquired on what they could expect etc. Now suddenly they were just waiting for the right moon conditions?
On top of that the story seems to be changing. It was reported before the reason Obama never pulled the trigger is they had a serious lack of on the ground intel and were waiting for more in depth intel to be acquired on what they could expect etc. Now suddenly they were just waiting for the right moon conditions?
Pai Pai Master
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And if it were Democrats in charge for this, we'd have another BENGHAZI on our hands and never hear the end of it.
I fully expect we will never learn how and why this happened.
I fully expect we will never learn how and why this happened.
ColonialHawk
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Reminds me of this Key and Peele sketch
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/tnawa2/key-and-peele-obama-s-meeting-with-republicans
Just reversed.
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/tnawa2/key-and-peele-obama-s-meeting-with-republicans
Just reversed.
jellies_two
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This is funny
But it's also a huge problem
The pentagon is not only run by militaristic types, but gambling ones
Given their head by Trump they are always going to Err on the side of aggression and extra risk.
Obama kept them on a leash. Trump over-reacts to the TV.
But it's also a huge problem
The pentagon is not only run by militaristic types, but gambling ones
Given their head by Trump they are always going to Err on the side of aggression and extra risk.
Obama kept them on a leash. Trump over-reacts to the TV.
Triggerhappytel
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Thirty dead civilians, one dead Navy Seal and they didn't even get their target. How is this considered a remotely successful operation?!
alternative successes
ebullientprism
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I cant fool my 13 year old niece with this shit. How dumb is this motherfucker?
archreaper93
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I read the title and just burst out laughing because I didn't believe it.
Then I remembered, "oh right, this is Trump. Never mind."
Then I remembered, "oh right, this is Trump. Never mind."
I read about the moon condition thing pretty early on
By deliberately looking the other way and blaming the media for reporting it as such.
"I'm not wrong! You're wrong for saying I'm wrong! Take that back! Waaahhhhhh!!!!!"
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Amazing.
OriginofHysteria
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30 dead civvies to the Trump admin means 30 less terrorists.
Pai Pai Master
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Are they? Because all I heard about was how much everyone loved and trusted "Mad Dog" Mattis, and if this report is accurate he is unequivocally responsible for this massive blunder.
moltonasty
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Same thing I thought of after reading this LOL
To be fair, counting all dead as the enemy has been standard US policy since at least the Vietnam war. Obama was guilty of this with drone strike death reports as well. Disgusting, irrespective of who is responsible for it
andthebeatgoeson
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Fuck those 5 seconds i thought mad dog would be okay.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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They probably double-dog dared him too.
"I heard some guy on Twitter said you can't do it!"
UberTag
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Yep, there are a number of contradictions here that don't hold up under any amount of scrutiny. Would explain why the rest of the media hasn't picked up on it, either.
I'd give this more stock if it came from the Washington Post and not the Independent.
TiredofWinning
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Yea my bullshit liberal aimed fake news senses went off charts when I read that article.
LincolnSixEcho
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The collateral damage of 30 civilians seems really high. Is any information out there on why 30 civilians were killed? Was the team ordered to kill everyone in that building? Was there an effort to separate civilians from the enemy?
The article says that the place was altered to their presence and they probably could have picked a date with better conditions. At a certain point, shit just hits the fan.
BrassDragon
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The White House said:
Meanwhile, in the real world, 'success' usually involves achieving your primary objective and not letting him escape to taunt you.
This is so wrong. The military is one the most risk adverse institutions I have ever seen.
Nobody knows, because nobody (by and large) in this country cares. The only reason this is in the news is because of the dead solider. I'm not saying this to be a dick or because I lack empathy. It's just the reality of the situation.
Nothing makes this more clear than the list of 'terrorist attacks' trump put out last night that excluded the biggest attack -- 300 dead Iraqis.
jellies_two
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They leveled the village dude , from attack drones , to cover their escape carrying a dead body.
jellies_two
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I think you are talking about how they plan for battles.
Not which battles they want to get into.
A military dictatorship will always choose fighting over almost any other solution. They don't build shiny toys as trump called them this week, to look at.
This is not how black ops or covert missions work. They are briefed on their mission and they do their jobs. People hate the term, "just following orders" but that is what they do. Unless it was something really unlawful, they have to follow whatever orders are given. Which is why you need people of sound mind providing intel and having accruate assessments of the situation.
Do you honestly think Trump wouldn't authorize this or push for this? Everything you have heard about what a brash and act without thinking man Trump is versus Mattis who is held in high regard by everyone who has ever met him. Again, this was a President who couldn't even come to the Situation Room.
There are reports that it was far too heavily fortified and with civilians. You try and minimize casualties but in the dark of night with assault rifles, bullets fly fast and heavy. Additionally they had to destroy a down Osprey aircraft and also drag their dead Navy SEAL buddy's body back and were probably returning fire. This was a militant occupied compound remember.
Smiles and Cries
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this is some shit
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